UVA and 4 years of foreign language

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whelp we are about to find out. DD stopped after junior year. Applied ED to UVA this year. Her scores are in sold admit range for our school’s scatterplot (no one with her scores has been denied in the last 5 years from our large VA public HS.)

She was aware of this when she elected not to take AP foreign language senior year. The teacher at our HS is particularly ineffective - she has very low pass rates and there tend to be about 7 kids total left in that language by senior year because she is so terrible. Took double science instead.

I will try to remember to update this thread when I know the result.

I am back with an update. She’s in! No foreign language senior year.

Congrats! (I'm right again.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whelp we are about to find out. DD stopped after junior year. Applied ED to UVA this year. Her scores are in sold admit range for our school’s scatterplot (no one with her scores has been denied in the last 5 years from our large VA public HS.)

She was aware of this when she elected not to take AP foreign language senior year. The teacher at our HS is particularly ineffective - she has very low pass rates and there tend to be about 7 kids total left in that language by senior year because she is so terrible. Took double science instead.

I will try to remember to update this thread when I know the result.

I am back with an update. She’s in! No foreign language senior year.

Congrats! (I'm right again.)

I’m the PP and DD knows several current UVA students from her HS who didn’t take senior year foreign language, which is what gave her the confidence to do it.

[Anonymous]

So what UVA says about UVA admissions is true and DCUM is wrong?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So what UVA says about UVA admissions is true and DCUM is wrong?

No. DCUM’s assertion that it is a dealbreaker is wrong. Factually.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. To be clear, I never said taking a language all four years was a “requirement.” I said not taking one was not a “good look.” And that’s what Dean J’s October post confirms.

Still disagree.

SEAS students get away with not taking 4 years of FL. Anyone saying it's not a problem for Arts and Sciences is kidding themselves. If UVA is your student's dream school, it is a big mistake to not take 4 years of FL and not to take APUSH if you are from NoVa.

My UVA student did take 4 years of FL. Did NOT take APUSH. They were clearly a stem kid and focused on that while also taking high rigor across the board, just not APUSH. There is always an exception I guess, maybe this is where the holistic admissions really plays in.

Why skip APUSH?

It’s not needed. Furthermore it’s a big risk for getting a bad grade on account of how hard it is.

Your kid wants to attend UVA in 8 Mos and worried about the difficulty of a HS class?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. To be clear, I never said taking a language all four years was a “requirement.” I said not taking one was not a “good look.” And that’s what Dean J’s October post confirms.

Still disagree.

SEAS students get away with not taking 4 years of FL. Anyone saying it's not a problem for Arts and Sciences is kidding themselves. If UVA is your student's dream school, it is a big mistake to not take 4 years of FL and not to take APUSH if you are from NoVa.

My UVA student did take 4 years of FL. Did NOT take APUSH. They were clearly a stem kid and focused on that while also taking high rigor across the board, just not APUSH. There is always an exception I guess, maybe this is where the holistic admissions really plays in.

Why skip APUSH?

It’s not needed. Furthermore it’s a big risk for getting a bad grade on account of how hard it is.

Your kid wants to attend UVA in 8 Mos and worried about the difficulty of a HS class?

+1. Plus UVA has its own foreign language requirement for undergrads not innSTEM

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So what UVA says about UVA admissions is true and DCUM is wrong?

No. DCUM’s assertion that it is a dealbreaker is wrong. Factually.

No one said that. It’s “highly recommended “ per Dean J. That your kid was hooked or STEM tipped the scales.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So what UVA says about UVA admissions is true and DCUM is wrong?

No. DCUM’s assertion that it is a dealbreaker is wrong. Factually.

No one said that. It’s “highly recommended “ per Dean J. That your kid was hooked or STEM tipped the scales.

Nope neither.

[Anonymous]

Everybody yapping about their n=1 exception to the rule as if it means anything. 🙄

If you were advising a 9th grader, the correct advice is “plan on taking four years of a language” - not just for UVA but many other selective schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everybody yapping about their n=1 exception to the rule as if it means anything. 🙄

If you were advising a 9th grader, the correct advice is “plan on taking four years of a language” - not just for UVA but many other selective schools.

Many of these kids we are discussing have 5 years of language - they stared in 7th grade and ended in 11th.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whelp we are about to find out. DD stopped after junior year. Applied ED to UVA this year. Her scores are in sold admit range for our school’s scatterplot (no one with her scores has been denied in the last 5 years from our large VA public HS.)

She was aware of this when she elected not to take AP foreign language senior year. The teacher at our HS is particularly ineffective - she has very low pass rates and there tend to be about 7 kids total left in that language by senior year because she is so terrible. Took double science instead.

I will try to remember to update this thread when I know the result.

I am back with an update. She’s in! No foreign language senior year.

Congrats! (I'm right again.)

I’m the PP and DD knows several current UVA students from her HS who didn’t take senior year foreign language, which is what gave her the confidence to do it.

Context is everything. What language did DD take? And is DD at TJ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. To be clear, I never said taking a language all four years was a “requirement.” I said not taking one was not a “good look.” And that’s what Dean J’s October post confirms.

Still disagree.

SEAS students get away with not taking 4 years of FL. Anyone saying it's not a problem for Arts and Sciences is kidding themselves. If UVA is your student's dream school, it is a big mistake to not take 4 years of FL and not to take APUSH if you are from NoVa.

My UVA student did take 4 years of FL. Did NOT take APUSH. They were clearly a stem kid and focused on that while also taking high rigor across the board, just not APUSH. There is always an exception I guess, maybe this is where the holistic admissions really plays in.

Why skip APUSH?

It’s not needed. Furthermore it’s a big risk for getting a bad grade on account of how hard it is.

Your kid wants to attend UVA in 8 Mos and worried about the difficulty of a HS class?

Its like a super hard HS class ok?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whelp we are about to find out. DD stopped after junior year. Applied ED to UVA this year. Her scores are in sold admit range for our school’s scatterplot (no one with her scores has been denied in the last 5 years from our large VA public HS.)

She was aware of this when she elected not to take AP foreign language senior year. The teacher at our HS is particularly ineffective - she has very low pass rates and there tend to be about 7 kids total left in that language by senior year because she is so terrible. Took double science instead.

I will try to remember to update this thread when I know the result.

I am back with an update. She’s in! No foreign language senior year.

Congrats! (I'm right again.)

I’m the PP and DD knows several current UVA students from her HS who didn’t take senior year foreign language, which is what gave her the confidence to do it.

Context is everything. What language did DD take? And is DD at TJ?

Not TJ. Mediocre public many here would scoff at. One of the commonly taken languages.

[Anonymous]

Congrats to the admits who got in without taking AP World Language. They will now have to take the UVA version of WL (if in the College of Arts and Sciences) which I have heard from my current 3rd year, was a class her first year friends dreaded! It took up a lot of time, and was not easy.

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Anonymous wrote:Congrats to the admits who got in without taking AP World Language. They will now have to take the UVA version of WL (if in the College of Arts and Sciences) which I have heard from my current 3rd year, was a class her first year friends dreaded! It took up a lot of time, and was not easy.

Ive heard great things about the several language departments there.