Pull The Plug

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Anonymous wrote:Never. DS swam club for 6y and never even made a B cut. He was always among the bottom 20 out of a field of 100s. But he enjoyed swimming, he had friends, he was active...

He is now active with his college club swim team. It is a great social outlet for him.

Sometimes we do things for the enjoyment. Not what they can do for us.

This sounds just like my oldest DS. Someone has to come in last place in races and my DS was often that kid. But he loved being part of his club team and made really great friends. So we kept paying and he would get up at 4:00am to practice three times a week. In high school, he was super busy so he only did a couple of meets instead of every month.

In high school, he became a "swimmer coach" on our NVSL summer team and a junior coach with NCAP. Then he joined his college club team and was able to get a part time job coaching with the local USA swim team. He became a certified coach and made really good money for a college student working 10 hours a week. DS is now in the working world and still swims for fitness. If you ask him today, he would tell you his club swim experience was his favorite activity and he doesn't regret anything about it.

My kid will drop it come college for other activities and we are fine with it. They lifeguard but no interest in coaching. As long as they enjoy it for fitness and fun, I'll pay. They at most do one meet a year.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have had a pull the plug desk at these mid season meets last weekend. DPs if your DC is 16/17 and makes no C Finals, or is unable attain a Sectionals cut, please do us a favor. Leave. Lane space is precious in the DMV. In the absence of reclassing, those who want to swim competitively need as much space as they can get. Dead weight is what it is. Useless. Help us help you. Period.

My kid is one of the slowest swimmers. You know what, I don't care what you think. They earned that spot and will continue till they graduate.

I don't mind swimmers of all abilities in the sport as long as they want to be there. The only thing that gets me a bit are swimmers skipping steps and signing up for things they're not ready for, slowing things down. (One example, swimmer had never done the 500, had a time ~3 minutes in the 200 and signed up for the thousand.)

It's not for you to decide and why not? How is that a big deal? My slow swimmer can easily do a 500. We rarely do meets due to other activities but for HS swim they crush the 500. You don't know if they are skipping and and its a bit creepy you are monitoring other kids so carefully.

DP, I understand the point PP was making. Swim meets are an incredibly long slog as it is and it is crappy when a coach enters a kid in an event that they clearly are not ready for. If you take 3:00 to swim a 200, you should not be entered in the 1000 which will take you over 15 minutes to finish. That being said, it’s a great thing that swimmers of all abilities have the opportunity to compete in this area. I have to think the person who posted that non-sectional level teens should quit is trolling.

Here is an idea, be supportive vs. be that parent talking in the stands making fun of the kids. Good for them if they try a 1000. Not everyone is there for competition and for a swim scholarship. Some are just doing it for fun and the accomplishments to trying.

Don't like it, don't watch. Simple.

Some kids are better distance swimmers than shorter, mine is.

+1.

Many of the parents actually cheer and encourage the swimmers who are far behind in races because they appreciate that it takes a certain attitude to put yourself out there when selfish idiots like the impatient PP are watching and hating.

These kids are honing lifelong skills on marching on despite the naysayers and the haters.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have had a pull the plug desk at these mid season meets last weekend. DPs if your DC is 16/17 and makes no C Finals, or is unable attain a Sectionals cut, please do us a favor. Leave. Lane space is precious in the DMV. In the absence of reclassing, those who want to swim competitively need as much space as they can get. Dead weight is what it is. Useless. Help us help you. Period.

I just told my DC to pull the plug as he did not make the C cut at KLI. He was very upset after years of work in the pool without making as much progress to make swimming worthwhile to you, anonymous poster. I also called his (i guess formerly) eventual DIII coach that I'm pulling the plug for him. It's a great academic school, I'm not sure he would have been admitted on his grades/ SATs alone. Hopefully the acceptance was not conditional of swim.

Thank you for the help. Such as amazing forum.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have had a pull the plug desk at these mid season meets last weekend. DPs if your DC is 16/17 and makes no C Finals, or is unable attain a Sectionals cut, please do us a favor. Leave. Lane space is precious in the DMV. In the absence of reclassing, those who want to swim competitively need as much space as they can get. Dead weight is what it is. Useless. Help us help you. Period.

I just told my DC to pull the plug as he did not make the C cut at KLI. He was very upset after years of work in the pool without making as much progress to make swimming worthwhile to you, anonymous poster. I also called his (i guess formerly) eventual DIII coach that I'm pulling the plug for him. It's a great academic school, I'm not sure he would have been admitted on his grades/ SATs alone. Hopefully the acceptance was not conditional of swim.

Thank you for the help. Such as amazing forum.

Pretty sure this was sarcasm...just my 2 cents.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have had a pull the plug desk at these mid season meets last weekend. DPs if your DC is 16/17 and makes no C Finals, or is unable attain a Sectionals cut, please do us a favor. Leave. Lane space is precious in the DMV. In the absence of reclassing, those who want to swim competitively need as much space as they can get. Dead weight is what it is. Useless. Help us help you. Period.

I just told my DC to pull the plug as he did not make the C cut at KLI. He was very upset after years of work in the pool without making as much progress to make swimming worthwhile to you, anonymous poster. I also called his (i guess formerly) eventual DIII coach that I'm pulling the plug for him. It's a great academic school, I'm not sure he would have been admitted on his grades/ SATs alone. Hopefully the acceptance was not conditional of swim.

Thank you for the help. Such as amazing forum.

Pretty sure this was sarcasm...just my 2 cents.

Sorry, i should be cleared. I think this post was made in jest. I wouldn't take it too seriously. And if it wasn't in jest, I still wouldn't take it seriously. It's DCUM.

"DPs if your DC is 16/17 and makes no C Finals, or is unable attain a Sectionals cut, please do us a favor. Leave. . ."

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Sorry, i should be cleared. I think this post was made in jest. I wouldn't take it too seriously. And if it wasn't in jest, I still wouldn't take it seriously. It's DCUM.

"DPs if your DC is 16/17 and makes no C Finals, or is unable attain a Sectionals cut, please do us a favor. Leave. . ."

Agree. I think they are going after the people who do say this stuff in one form or another. Shockingly in public. If you have been around for a few years this, or some psychotic variation, is always thrown around by someone at some point during a parental meltdown in the stands. If one was a card shark, swim meets would be a great place to find easy marks.

[Anonymous]

Forget the swimmers. There needs to be a pull the plug on the parents…..

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Anonymous wrote:They should have had a pull the plug desk at these mid season meets last weekend. DPs if your DC is 16/17 and makes no C Finals, or is unable attain a Sectionals cut, please do us a favor. Leave. Lane space is precious in the DMV. In the absence of reclassing, those who want to swim competitively need as much space as they can get. Dead weight is what it is. Useless. Help us help you. Period.

My kid is one of the slowest swimmers. You know what, I don't care what you think. They earned that spot and will continue till they graduate.

I don't mind swimmers of all abilities in the sport as long as they want to be there. The only thing that gets me a bit are swimmers skipping steps and signing up for things they're not ready for, slowing things down. (One example, swimmer had never done the 500, had a time ~3 minutes in the 200 and signed up for the thousand.)

It's not for you to decide and why not? How is that a big deal? My slow swimmer can easily do a 500. We rarely do meets due to other activities but for HS swim they crush the 500. You don't know if they are skipping and and its a bit creepy you are monitoring other kids so carefully.

DP, I understand the point PP was making. Swim meets are an incredibly long slog as it is and it is crappy when a coach enters a kid in an event that they clearly are not ready for. If you take 3:00 to swim a 200, you should not be entered in the 1000 which will take you over 15 minutes to finish. That being said, it’s a great thing that swimmers of all abilities have the opportunity to compete in this area. I have to think the person who posted that non-sectional level teens should quit is trolling.

Here is an idea, be supportive vs. be that parent talking in the stands making fun of the kids. Good for them if they try a 1000. Not everyone is there for competition and for a swim scholarship. Some are just doing it for fun and the accomplishments to trying.

Don't like it, don't watch. Simple.

Some kids are better distance swimmers than shorter, mine is.

"Slow swimmers shouldn't swim the 1000" wasn't the point. The point was that swimmers, particularly developing swimmers, should swim the 500 at least once (or really 2 or 3 times) before tackling the thousand.

In a similar vein, swimmers with no 50 breast time because they keep dq-ing shouldn't sign up for the 200 breast or 400 im-- but they should keep signing up for that 50 until they get it.

[Anonymous]

Get them to try water polo—Capital water polo club has a discount for club swimmers who want to try it out a couple of days per week. They practice at the St. James (girls and boys)

-former swim parent, no regrets

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Anonymous wrote:They should have had a pull the plug desk at these mid season meets last weekend. DPs if your DC is 16/17 and makes no C Finals, or is unable attain a Sectionals cut, please do us a favor. Leave. Lane space is precious in the DMV. In the absence of reclassing, those who want to swim competitively need as much space as they can get. Dead weight is what it is. Useless. Help us help you. Period.

I just told my DC to pull the plug as he did not make the C cut at KLI. He was very upset after years of work in the pool without making as much progress to make swimming worthwhile to you, anonymous poster. I also called his (i guess formerly) eventual DIII coach that I'm pulling the plug for him. It's a great academic school, I'm not sure he would have been admitted on his grades/ SATs alone. Hopefully the acceptance was not conditional of swim.

Thank you for the help. Such as amazing forum.

That's just mean to force him to stop just because he's not making swim in college.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have had a pull the plug desk at these mid season meets last weekend. DPs if your DC is 16/17 and makes no C Finals, or is unable attain a Sectionals cut, please do us a favor. Leave. Lane space is precious in the DMV. In the absence of reclassing, those who want to swim competitively need as much space as they can get. Dead weight is what it is. Useless. Help us help you. Period.

My kid is one of the slowest swimmers. You know what, I don't care what you think. They earned that spot and will continue till they graduate.

I don't mind swimmers of all abilities in the sport as long as they want to be there. The only thing that gets me a bit are swimmers skipping steps and signing up for things they're not ready for, slowing things down. (One example, swimmer had never done the 500, had a time ~3 minutes in the 200 and signed up for the thousand.)

It's not for you to decide and why not? How is that a big deal? My slow swimmer can easily do a 500. We rarely do meets due to other activities but for HS swim they crush the 500. You don't know if they are skipping and and its a bit creepy you are monitoring other kids so carefully.

DP, I understand the point PP was making. Swim meets are an incredibly long slog as it is and it is crappy when a coach enters a kid in an event that they clearly are not ready for. If you take 3:00 to swim a 200, you should not be entered in the 1000 which will take you over 15 minutes to finish. That being said, it’s a great thing that swimmers of all abilities have the opportunity to compete in this area. I have to think the person who posted that non-sectional level teens should quit is trolling.

Here is an idea, be supportive vs. be that parent talking in the stands making fun of the kids. Good for them if they try a 1000. Not everyone is there for competition and for a swim scholarship. Some are just doing it for fun and the accomplishments to trying.

Don't like it, don't watch. Simple.

Some kids are better distance swimmers than shorter, mine is.

"Slow swimmers shouldn't swim the 1000" wasn't the point. The point was that swimmers, particularly developing swimmers, should swim the 500 at least once (or really 2 or 3 times) before tackling the thousand.

In a similar vein, swimmers with no 50 breast time because they keep dq-ing shouldn't sign up for the 200 breast or 400 im-- but they should keep signing up for that 50 until they get it.

No! Sometimes they don't get the opportunity because of the coaches. Or, they have no choice and the coaches put them in what they

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Anonymous wrote:They should have had a pull the plug desk at these mid season meets last weekend. DPs if your DC is 16/17 and makes no C Finals, or is unable attain a Sectionals cut, please do us a favor. Leave. Lane space is precious in the DMV. In the absence of reclassing, those who want to swim competitively need as much space as they can get. Dead weight is what it is. Useless. Help us help you. Period.

My kid is one of the slowest swimmers. You know what, I don't care what you think. They earned that spot and will continue till they graduate.

I don't mind swimmers of all abilities in the sport as long as they want to be there. The only thing that gets me a bit are swimmers skipping steps and signing up for things they're not ready for, slowing things down. (One example, swimmer had never done the 500, had a time ~3 minutes in the 200 and signed up for the thousand.)

It's not for you to decide and why not? How is that a big deal? My slow swimmer can easily do a 500. We rarely do meets due to other activities but for HS swim they crush the 500. You don't know if they are skipping and and its a bit creepy you are monitoring other kids so carefully.

DP, I understand the point PP was making. Swim meets are an incredibly long slog as it is and it is crappy when a coach enters a kid in an event that they clearly are not ready for. If you take 3:00 to swim a 200, you should not be entered in the 1000 which will take you over 15 minutes to finish. That being said, it’s a great thing that swimmers of all abilities have the opportunity to compete in this area. I have to think the person who posted that non-sectional level teens should quit is trolling.

Here is an idea, be supportive vs. be that parent talking in the stands making fun of the kids. Good for them if they try a 1000. Not everyone is there for competition and for a swim scholarship. Some are just doing it for fun and the accomplishments to trying.

Don't like it, don't watch. Simple.

Some kids are better distance swimmers than shorter, mine is.

"Slow swimmers shouldn't swim the 1000" wasn't the point. The point was that swimmers, particularly developing swimmers, should swim the 500 at least once (or really 2 or 3 times) before tackling the thousand.

In a similar vein, swimmers with no 50 breast time because they keep dq-ing shouldn't sign up for the 200 breast or 400 im-- but they should keep signing up for that 50 until they get it.

No! Sometimes they don't get the opportunity because of the coaches. Or, they have no choice and the coaches put them in what they

What they choose, not the swimmers request. That's what our HS coaches do. They put kids in the 500 who were club swimmers but don't do distance and they did terrible. Other not so fast club swimmers did great as they had the long endurance.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have had a pull the plug desk at these mid season meets last weekend. DPs if your DC is 16/17 and makes no C Finals, or is unable attain a Sectionals cut, please do us a favor. Leave. Lane space is precious in the DMV. In the absence of reclassing, those who want to swim competitively need as much space as they can get. Dead weight is what it is. Useless. Help us help you. Period.

My kid is one of the slowest swimmers. You know what, I don't care what you think. They earned that spot and will continue till they graduate.

I don't mind swimmers of all abilities in the sport as long as they want to be there. The only thing that gets me a bit are swimmers skipping steps and signing up for things they're not ready for, slowing things down. (One example, swimmer had never done the 500, had a time ~3 minutes in the 200 and signed up for the thousand.)

It's not for you to decide and why not? How is that a big deal? My slow swimmer can easily do a 500. We rarely do meets due to other activities but for HS swim they crush the 500. You don't know if they are skipping and and its a bit creepy you are monitoring other kids so carefully.

DP, I understand the point PP was making. Swim meets are an incredibly long slog as it is and it is crappy when a coach enters a kid in an event that they clearly are not ready for. If you take 3:00 to swim a 200, you should not be entered in the 1000 which will take you over 15 minutes to finish. That being said, it’s a great thing that swimmers of all abilities have the opportunity to compete in this area. I have to think the person who posted that non-sectional level teens should quit is trolling.

Here is an idea, be supportive vs. be that parent talking in the stands making fun of the kids. Good for them if they try a 1000. Not everyone is there for competition and for a swim scholarship. Some are just doing it for fun and the accomplishments to trying.

Don't like it, don't watch. Simple.

Some kids are better distance swimmers than shorter, mine is.

"Slow swimmers shouldn't swim the 1000" wasn't the point. The point was that swimmers, particularly developing swimmers, should swim the 500 at least once (or really 2 or 3 times) before tackling the thousand.

In a similar vein, swimmers with no 50 breast time because they keep dq-ing shouldn't sign up for the 200 breast or 400 im-- but they should keep signing up for that 50 until they get it.

NT in a 50 and swimming a 200 doesn't happen very often does it?

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Anonymous wrote:They should have had a pull the plug desk at these mid season meets last weekend. DPs if your DC is 16/17 and makes no C Finals, or is unable attain a Sectionals cut, please do us a favor. Leave. Lane space is precious in the DMV. In the absence of reclassing, those who want to swim competitively need as much space as they can get. Dead weight is what it is. Useless. Help us help you. Period.

My kid is one of the slowest swimmers. You know what, I don't care what you think. They earned that spot and will continue till they graduate.

I don't mind swimmers of all abilities in the sport as long as they want to be there. The only thing that gets me a bit are swimmers skipping steps and signing up for things they're not ready for, slowing things down. (One example, swimmer had never done the 500, had a time ~3 minutes in the 200 and signed up for the thousand.)

It's not for you to decide and why not? How is that a big deal? My slow swimmer can easily do a 500. We rarely do meets due to other activities but for HS swim they crush the 500. You don't know if they are skipping and and its a bit creepy you are monitoring other kids so carefully.

DP, I understand the point PP was making. Swim meets are an incredibly long slog as it is and it is crappy when a coach enters a kid in an event that they clearly are not ready for. If you take 3:00 to swim a 200, you should not be entered in the 1000 which will take you over 15 minutes to finish. That being said, it’s a great thing that swimmers of all abilities have the opportunity to compete in this area. I have to think the person who posted that non-sectional level teens should quit is trolling.

Here is an idea, be supportive vs. be that parent talking in the stands making fun of the kids. Good for them if they try a 1000. Not everyone is there for competition and for a swim scholarship. Some are just doing it for fun and the accomplishments to trying.

Don't like it, don't watch. Simple.

Some kids are better distance swimmers than shorter, mine is.

"Slow swimmers shouldn't swim the 1000" wasn't the point. The point was that swimmers, particularly developing swimmers, should swim the 500 at least once (or really 2 or 3 times) before tackling the thousand.

In a similar vein, swimmers with no 50 breast time because they keep dq-ing shouldn't sign up for the 200 breast or 400 im-- but they should keep signing up for that 50 until they get it.

NT in a 50 and swimming a 200 doesn't happen very often does it?

Never. Don’t know what the PP was talking about, but nothing worse than a 9 y/o doing the 200 BR in 4:55, holding up the meet with the rest of the heat done at 3:25, wondering if they’re allowed to get out of the water and what’s the holdup.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have had a pull the plug desk at these mid season meets last weekend. DPs if your DC is 16/17 and makes no C Finals, or is unable attain a Sectionals cut, please do us a favor. Leave. Lane space is precious in the DMV. In the absence of reclassing, those who want to swim competitively need as much space as they can get. Dead weight is what it is. Useless. Help us help you. Period.

My kid is one of the slowest swimmers. You know what, I don't care what you think. They earned that spot and will continue till they graduate.

I don't mind swimmers of all abilities in the sport as long as they want to be there. The only thing that gets me a bit are swimmers skipping steps and signing up for things they're not ready for, slowing things down. (One example, swimmer had never done the 500, had a time ~3 minutes in the 200 and signed up for the thousand.)

It's not for you to decide and why not? How is that a big deal? My slow swimmer can easily do a 500. We rarely do meets due to other activities but for HS swim they crush the 500. You don't know if they are skipping and and its a bit creepy you are monitoring other kids so carefully.

DP, I understand the point PP was making. Swim meets are an incredibly long slog as it is and it is crappy when a coach enters a kid in an event that they clearly are not ready for. If you take 3:00 to swim a 200, you should not be entered in the 1000 which will take you over 15 minutes to finish. That being said, it’s a great thing that swimmers of all abilities have the opportunity to compete in this area. I have to think the person who posted that non-sectional level teens should quit is trolling.

Here is an idea, be supportive vs. be that parent talking in the stands making fun of the kids. Good for them if they try a 1000. Not everyone is there for competition and for a swim scholarship. Some are just doing it for fun and the accomplishments to trying.

Don't like it, don't watch. Simple.

Some kids are better distance swimmers than shorter, mine is.

"Slow swimmers shouldn't swim the 1000" wasn't the point. The point was that swimmers, particularly developing swimmers, should swim the 500 at least once (or really 2 or 3 times) before tackling the thousand.

In a similar vein, swimmers with no 50 breast time because they keep dq-ing shouldn't sign up for the 200 breast or 400 im-- but they should keep signing up for that 50 until they get it.

NT in a 50 and swimming a 200 doesn't happen very often does it?

Never. Don’t know what the PP was talking about, but nothing worse than a 9 y/o doing the 200 BR in 4:55, holding up the meet with the rest of the heat done at 3:25, wondering if they’re allowed to get out of the water and what’s the holdup.

It has happened at least once, because I had to sit through it and it annoyed me to no end. I personally knew the swimmer and knew they had no legal 50. And the team isn't one that assigns events; parents pick. DQ hand up before they hit the flags after the dive.