R.I.P. American children

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Overall, the risk of illness outweighs the inconvenience of the vaccine.
Talk about lawsuits? These babies will become livid litigious very sick adults.


Are you kidding with this bs about loving babies? The most preventable childhood "disease" is obesity. Can these millions of fat kids sue their parents along with the junk food industry? Should we also mandate breastfeeding and ban elective c-sections? And ban adults from having kids if they have a high probability of genetic birth defects?

Such dumb arguments and hysteria about a vaccine for a disease that the vast majority of babies knowingly have zero chance of getting in their first few months, especially when delaying 2 months will add only 1400 possible infections each year. And even these could be mitigated with detection and education. And I guess you white knights know who the populations to target are.


Louisiana Senator and dopey hypocritical liver doctor Bill Cassidy DISAGREES WITH YOU.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/republican-sen-cassidy-tells-cdc-not-to-adopt-hepatitis-b-vaccine-change/ar-AA1RNQqK

He’s a disaster and you are a goddamned fool. Shut it.
Anonymous
So much for "pro life."

It seems like Republicans want to decrease to population of the US.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like no more Hep B vax for newborns. RFK MAHA by bringing back liver cancers for young adults. 😬

Hopefully the rest of the world quarantines Americans and refuses to let their potential disease carrying behinds in.

So amazing how Jenny McCarthy and a bunch of Mommy bloggers get to bring back polio, measles, and hep B again.

How does the AMA sit there and allow this insanity to continue when they supposedly took a Hippocratic Oath. Why are doctors so quiet while watching the 1890s come roaring back?


Sorry, disagree. Please calm down.
Hep B vax is only for newborns who are at risk if their mom has Hep B or is at risk for Hep B. Babies can get the Hep B vax later. They should screen for Hep B, and only give it to newborns who are at risk, and add it to the vax schedule for kids who are not at risk.



You don’t understand. Babies can’t get it later, it’s too late. Screening is not fool proof.


It seems that MAGA will only learn when they see the consequences with their own eyes. Iron lungs. Children deaf and/or brain damaged from measles. Liver failure from hep b.

I hope they are all prepared to pull themselves up by the bootstraps. I don’t want to see my tax dollars go to caring for people suffering the side effects of preventable diseases.


I doubt it. There were TONS of tweets during the pandemic by doctors saying their dying MAGA patients refused to believe they were sick with COVID. You see Christian trad wives say their chosen kid went home to Jesus.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no need for a Hep B vax for newborns unless the mother is positive. None at all.



What if the father is positive. What if a store came k is positive. Why would any intelligent person take the risk?

You can bet that insurance will no longer cover Hep B vaccine at birth and if parents choose to vaccinate before 2 months the cost will be $500.


After reading the ridiculous vote wording, it does say in vote 2 they those who wish to have the vaccine at birth can do so, and it will be covered. Thank God
Anonymous
Five pages in and not a single person can explain what harm is prevented by delaying the vaccine. MAHA is so full of ****.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like no more Hep B vax for newborns. RFK MAHA by bringing back liver cancers for young adults. 😬

Hopefully the rest of the world quarantines Americans and refuses to let their potential disease carrying behinds in.

So amazing how Jenny McCarthy and a bunch of Mommy bloggers get to bring back polio, measles, and hep B again.

How does the AMA sit there and allow this insanity to continue when they supposedly took a Hippocratic Oath. Why are doctors so quiet while watching the 1890s come roaring back?


Can parents still decide to vaccinate at birth?

And will insurance still cover it?


you can private pay if it's so important to you.

How about you idiot MAGas put your money where your mouth is and keep government out of interfering with our personal lives. Y’all couldn’t stop screeching about having to wear masks.
Anonymous
There is a silver lining--MAGAS will refuse to vaccinate their child at any age and MAGAS will die out with no future generation!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like no more Hep B vax for newborns. RFK MAHA by bringing back liver cancers for young adults. 😬

Hopefully the rest of the world quarantines Americans and refuses to let their potential disease carrying behinds in.

So amazing how Jenny McCarthy and a bunch of Mommy bloggers get to bring back polio, measles, and hep B again.

How does the AMA sit there and allow this insanity to continue when they supposedly took a Hippocratic Oath. Why are doctors so quiet while watching the 1890s come roaring back?


Can parents still decide to vaccinate at birth?

And will insurance still cover it?


you can private pay if it's so important to you.

How about you idiot MAGas put your money where your mouth is and keep government out of interfering with our personal lives. Y’all couldn’t stop screeching about having to wear masks.


Why do you assume that everyone who disagrees with you is MAGA? Delaying is not denying. Arbitrarily forcing medical decisions sometimes and "choicing" others for no logical reason except for personal politics is stupid. Outside of the delivery room, our kids interacted with maybe 6-8 other people outside the immediately family (i.e., grandparents, pediatrician, nurse) during the first 3 months of life. And we're not high income either. These types of policies are unnecessarily intrusive and this big brothering is more and more following kids in schools and society until adulthood.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Overall, the risk of illness outweighs the inconvenience of the vaccine.
Talk about lawsuits? These babies will become livid litigious very sick adults.


Are you kidding with this bs about loving babies? The most preventable childhood "disease" is obesity. Can these millions of fat kids sue their parents along with the junk food industry? Should we also mandate breastfeeding and ban elective c-sections? And ban adults from having kids if they have a high probability of genetic birth defects?

Such dumb arguments and hysteria about a vaccine for a disease that the vast majority of babies knowingly have zero chance of getting in their first few months, especially when delaying 2 months will add only 1400 possible infections each year. And even these could be mitigated with detection and education. And I guess you white knights know who the populations to target are.


Louisiana Senator and dopey hypocritical liver doctor Bill Cassidy DISAGREES WITH YOU.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/republican-sen-cassidy-tells-cdc-not-to-adopt-hepatitis-b-vaccine-change/ar-AA1RNQqK

He’s a disaster and you are a goddamned fool. Shut it.

+1

[b]“As a liver doctor who has treated patients with hepatitis B for decades, this change to the vaccine schedule is a mistake. The hepatitis B vaccine is safe and effective. The birth dose is a recommendation, NOT a mandate.

Before the birth dose was recommended, 20,000 newborns a year were infected with hepatitis B. Now, it’s fewer than 20. Ending the recommendation for newborns makes it more likely the number of cases will begin to increase again. This makes America sicker.

Acting CDC Director O’Neill should not sign these new recommendations and instead retain the current, evidence-based approach.”
- Senator/Dr. Bill Cassidy
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.


There is every risk. It’s contracted when passing through birth canal. That immediate vaccine is vital. If one waits several months, it’s too late.
Many women don’t get tested or contract it after being tested. It’s the best way to prevent serious illlness and suffering. Have you ever seen anyone with hepatitis b? A child? With a totally preventable horrible illness?!


I stayed at home after birth for a couple years. Neither DH nor I had hep B. Why would my baby need it until daycare or school? I believe in vaccines but asked the pediatrician to space out the number of shots they were giving and they accommodated that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like no more Hep B vax for newborns. RFK MAHA by bringing back liver cancers for young adults. 😬

Hopefully the rest of the world quarantines Americans and refuses to let their potential disease carrying behinds in.

So amazing how Jenny McCarthy and a bunch of Mommy bloggers get to bring back polio, measles, and hep B again.

How does the AMA sit there and allow this insanity to continue when they supposedly took a Hippocratic Oath. Why are doctors so quiet while watching the 1890s come roaring back?


Can parents still decide to vaccinate at birth?

And will insurance still cover it?


you can private pay if it's so important to you.

How about you idiot MAGas put your money where your mouth is and keep government out of interfering with our personal lives. Y’all couldn’t stop screeching about having to wear masks.


Why do you assume that everyone who disagrees with you is MAGA? Delaying is not denying. Arbitrarily forcing medical decisions sometimes and "choicing" others for no logical reason except for personal politics is stupid. Outside of the delivery room, our kids interacted with maybe 6-8 other people outside the immediately family (i.e., grandparents, pediatrician, nurse) during the first 3 months of life. And we're not high income either. These types of policies are unnecessarily intrusive and this big brothering is more and more following kids in schools and society until adulthood.

Still waiting for you to give a “logical reason” for not vaccinating.
Anonymous
Just heard on NBC news that if you want the vaccine at birth for your child, you can get it.
From google:
Hepatitis B (HBV) spreads through contact with infected blood, semen, or other body fluids, commonly via unprotected sex, sharing needles, from mother to baby during birth, or accidental needlesticks; it is not spread by food, water, or casual contact like hugging or sneezing, but can survive on surfaces for days. Key transmission routes include sexual contact, injection drug use, contaminated medical equipment (tattoos/piercings), and perinatal transmission.

How are Canada and Scandinavian countries able to do this by targeting high risk individuals?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.


There is every risk. It’s contracted when passing through birth canal. That immediate vaccine is vital. If one waits several months, it’s too late.
Many women don’t get tested or contract it after being tested. It’s the best way to prevent serious illlness and suffering. Have you ever seen anyone with hepatitis b? A child? With a totally preventable horrible illness?!


I stayed at home after birth for a couple years. Neither DH nor I had hep B. Why would my baby need it until daycare or school? I believe in vaccines but asked the pediatrician to space out the number of shots they were giving and they accommodated that.


There's a difference in asking for a delayed schedule that's outside the recommendation, and then there's a recommendation that statistically will cause more harm.

Is there some reason antivaxers couldn't just do what they were doing before? Why did the recommendation have to change?

I find the burden of having to research vaccinations while pregnant and working challenging. But, that's what we're left to do now. This will also lead to so much misinformation. We already have a staggering maternal mortality rate, so WTH is the goal here?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like no more Hep B vax for newborns. RFK MAHA by bringing back liver cancers for young adults. 😬

Hopefully the rest of the world quarantines Americans and refuses to let their potential disease carrying behinds in.

So amazing how Jenny McCarthy and a bunch of Mommy bloggers get to bring back polio, measles, and hep B again.

How does the AMA sit there and allow this insanity to continue when they supposedly took a Hippocratic Oath. Why are doctors so quiet while watching the 1890s come roaring back?


Can parents still decide to vaccinate at birth?

And will insurance still cover it?


you can private pay if it's so important to you.

How about you idiot MAGas put your money where your mouth is and keep government out of interfering with our personal lives. Y’all couldn’t stop screeching about having to wear masks.


Why do you assume that everyone who disagrees with you is MAGA? Delaying is not denying. Arbitrarily forcing medical decisions sometimes and "choicing" others for no logical reason except for personal politics is stupid. Outside of the delivery room, our kids interacted with maybe 6-8 other people outside the immediately family (i.e., grandparents, pediatrician, nurse) during the first 3 months of life. And we're not high income either. These types of policies are unnecessarily intrusive and this big brothering is more and more following kids in schools and society until adulthood.

Still waiting for you to give a “logical reason” for not vaccinating.


Learn to read for comprehension purposes. The answer is there. Your "logical" reason isn't unless you want every decision about kids to be utiliitarian, based upon health and biology.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There is a silver lining--MAGAS will refuse to vaccinate their child at any age and MAGAS will die out with no future generation!


They can all start giving up their big trucks and start driving around in tiny cars, too. Works fine in Japan where people know how to behave, but in American culture, this should be interesting. Trump’s leading them all off a cliff.
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