The share of academically strong, unhooked students in the Top 20 schools.

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Anonymous wrote:It really bothers me when people keep bringing up race. Serious students exist in every race.

You'd think. But there is enormous differentiation overall in real life academic performance between white and Asian students and black and Latino students.

The upside is that this generation of 18 year olds is very mixed so old racial patterns don't matter so much. It'd be a dumb way to determine anything. There are millions of 18 year olds that can choose multiple boxes today. Race is becoming less relevant every year.

I get that, but at research-heavy universities, there are plenty of students who are really passionate about learning and debating ideas. Higher education should focus on advancing knowledge, not on social justice in ways that slow intellectual progress or selling brands for the sake of vanity reasons.

Private Institutions should be able to focus on their institutional priorities, admitting whomever they desire by whatever criteria they prefer.

This just means their goal isn't education but something else

This is been true for US elite private colleges and universities, probably since their inception. Education was the priority with the expansion of public systems in the Midwest and on the West Coast in the 19th Century.

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It is not. Some people just want to be around others who think like them and take school seriously.

Caltech, MIT, top European schools, or a hard major at any good school (e.g. engineering, math, physics, CS, home humanities subjects which vary from school to school)

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Anonymous wrote:The legacy, athlete, fake spike kids etc may not be "dumb." In fact, they may be on par with the regular unhooked kid, or close to on par. But the former is always going to get priority, leaving the latter to pick up the scraps.

In other words, the OP's premise may be true while at the same time, the priority kids are actually qualified. That is, two things can be true at the same time.

But it does help the average excellent kid understand their odds.

By qualified we all mean qualified enough to be able to get in unhooked. By this definition, the majority of pretty much every hooked group besides perhaps legacies is unqualified.

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Anonymous wrote:"Consultant polished, packaged, fake spikes" are not hooked.

There are tons of fake awards—people call them “spikes.” The forum said private schools like them because they show the family has money and can afford tuition.

You can show you are full pay in many, many other ways.

I just want a school with plenty of competent students who are actually there to learn. Going to college just to show off wealth or status is stupid

This is most colleges.

Actually no. Go browse the professors subreddit.