Pomona vs Williams ED for Chemistry/Neuroscience

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love how all of DCUM tries to pretend that Williams is far superior to Pomona-just East coast snobbery talking. They are equivalent schools.

I haven't seen that at all. I think they are pretty much assumed to be peer schools. Sure, there is the occasional moron who says otherwise, but that is the exception, not the rule.

Anecdotally, I have come across several students choosing Pomona over another WASP school to which they were also admitted. Not saying any one is better, but I do sense a trend in student preferences. It might be as simple as the fact that Pomona is perceived as “different” than the usual suspect east coast SLACs.

[Anonymous]

It’s really about environment, not the dang weather like everyone here is babbling about.

If you’re a bit more academically intense, doesn’t mean you get better grades but maybe you like constantly talking about school and academic life, Williams is perfect. You should ideally be athletic and into nature if you don’t want to go crazy.

Meanwhile if you’re a bit more relaxed and prefer weighing school and social life, Pomona might be a better idea. More options of things to do and more students around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s really about environment, not the dang weather like everyone here is babbling about.

If you’re a bit more academically intense, doesn’t mean you get better grades but maybe you like constantly talking about school and academic life, Williams is perfect. You should ideally be athletic and into nature if you don’t want to go crazy.

Meanwhile if you’re a bit more relaxed and prefer weighing school and social life, Pomona might be a better idea. More options of things to do and more students around.

You realize that “academically intense” and 40% of the freshman class as recruited athletes (yes, the overall percentage is slightly lower, but attrition) is kind of a contradiction? Not because the athletes aren’t smart, but because, you know, they are playing their sport 3 hours a day? Just sayin’…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really about environment, not the dang weather like everyone here is babbling about.

If you’re a bit more academically intense, doesn’t mean you get better grades but maybe you like constantly talking about school and academic life, Williams is perfect. You should ideally be athletic and into nature if you don’t want to go crazy.

Meanwhile if you’re a bit more relaxed and prefer weighing school and social life, Pomona might be a better idea. More options of things to do and more students around.

You realize that “academically intense” and 40% of the freshman class as recruited athletes (yes, the overall percentage is slightly lower, but attrition) is kind of a contradiction? Not because the athletes aren’t smart, but because, you know, they are playing their sport 3 hours a day? Just sayin’…

Sure but 60% aren’t and need to do something on a rural hill campus, so they work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really about environment, not the dang weather like everyone here is babbling about.

If you’re a bit more academically intense, doesn’t mean you get better grades but maybe you like constantly talking about school and academic life, Williams is perfect. You should ideally be athletic and into nature if you don’t want to go crazy.

Meanwhile if you’re a bit more relaxed and prefer weighing school and social life, Pomona might be a better idea. More options of things to do and more students around.

You realize that “academically intense” and 40% of the freshman class as recruited athletes (yes, the overall percentage is slightly lower, but attrition) is kind of a contradiction? Not because the athletes aren’t smart, but because, you know, they are playing their sport 3 hours a day? Just sayin’…

Sure but 60% aren’t and need to do something on a rural hill campus, so they work.

Um, think real hard. What kind of culture and expectations pervade the academic experience, in terms of work expectations, when 40% can’t do maximum rigor? If you want to work like a dog, go to Swarthmore. If you are unnecessarily working like a dog at Williams, that isn’t something to be proud of; it’s kind of pathetic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really about environment, not the dang weather like everyone here is babbling about.

If you’re a bit more academically intense, doesn’t mean you get better grades but maybe you like constantly talking about school and academic life, Williams is perfect. You should ideally be athletic and into nature if you don’t want to go crazy.

Meanwhile if you’re a bit more relaxed and prefer weighing school and social life, Pomona might be a better idea. More options of things to do and more students around.

You realize that “academically intense” and 40% of the freshman class as recruited athletes (yes, the overall percentage is slightly lower, but attrition) is kind of a contradiction? Not because the athletes aren’t smart, but because, you know, they are playing their sport 3 hours a day? Just sayin’…

Sure but 60% aren’t and need to do something on a rural hill campus, so they work.

Um, think real hard. What kind of culture and expectations pervade the academic experience, in terms of work expectations, when 40% can’t do maximum rigor? If you want to work like a dog, go to Swarthmore. If you are unnecessarily working like a dog at Williams, that isn’t something to be proud of; it’s kind of pathetic.

Williams is damned more academically intense than swarthmore. Look at fellowship output and you’ll see that Williams clobbers Swarthmore. Swarthmore’s intensity is mostly BS marketing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really about environment, not the dang weather like everyone here is babbling about.

If you’re a bit more academically intense, doesn’t mean you get better grades but maybe you like constantly talking about school and academic life, Williams is perfect. You should ideally be athletic and into nature if you don’t want to go crazy.

Meanwhile if you’re a bit more relaxed and prefer weighing school and social life, Pomona might be a better idea. More options of things to do and more students around.

You realize that “academically intense” and 40% of the freshman class as recruited athletes (yes, the overall percentage is slightly lower, but attrition) is kind of a contradiction? Not because the athletes aren’t smart, but because, you know, they are playing their sport 3 hours a day? Just sayin’…

Sure but 60% aren’t and need to do something on a rural hill campus, so they work.

Um, think real hard. What kind of culture and expectations pervade the academic experience, in terms of work expectations, when 40% can’t do maximum rigor? If you want to work like a dog, go to Swarthmore. If you are unnecessarily working like a dog at Williams, that isn’t something to be proud of; it’s kind of pathetic.

Williams is damned more academically intense than swarthmore. Look at fellowship output and you’ll see that Williams clobbers Swarthmore. Swarthmore’s intensity is mostly BS marketing.

I can’t continue this because I do not attend silly school. I hope you do not attend Williams, because I do not think of it, normally, as silly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really about environment, not the dang weather like everyone here is babbling about.

If you’re a bit more academically intense, doesn’t mean you get better grades but maybe you like constantly talking about school and academic life, Williams is perfect. You should ideally be athletic and into nature if you don’t want to go crazy.

Meanwhile if you’re a bit more relaxed and prefer weighing school and social life, Pomona might be a better idea. More options of things to do and more students around.

You realize that “academically intense” and 40% of the freshman class as recruited athletes (yes, the overall percentage is slightly lower, but attrition) is kind of a contradiction? Not because the athletes aren’t smart, but because, you know, they are playing their sport 3 hours a day? Just sayin’…

Sure but 60% aren’t and need to do something on a rural hill campus, so they work.

Um, think real hard. What kind of culture and expectations pervade the academic experience, in terms of work expectations, when 40% can’t do maximum rigor? If you want to work like a dog, go to Swarthmore. If you are unnecessarily working like a dog at Williams, that isn’t something to be proud of; it’s kind of pathetic.

Williams is damned more academically intense than swarthmore. Look at fellowship output and you’ll see that Williams clobbers Swarthmore. Swarthmore’s intensity is mostly BS marketing.

I can’t continue this because I do not attend silly school. I hope you do not attend Williams, because I do not think of it, normally, as silly.

Or is the propaganda not working well enough for you…https://today.williams.edu/announcements/williams-students-and-alumni-are-receiving-a-plethora-of-fellowships-and-scholarships-this-spring/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://today.williams.edu/announcements/williams-students-and-alumni-are-receiving-a-plethora-of-fellowships-and-scholarships-this-spring/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really about environment, not the dang weather like everyone here is babbling about.

If you’re a bit more academically intense, doesn’t mean you get better grades but maybe you like constantly talking about school and academic life, Williams is perfect. You should ideally be athletic and into nature if you don’t want to go crazy.

Meanwhile if you’re a bit more relaxed and prefer weighing school and social life, Pomona might be a better idea. More options of things to do and more students around.

You realize that “academically intense” and 40% of the freshman class as recruited athletes (yes, the overall percentage is slightly lower, but attrition) is kind of a contradiction? Not because the athletes aren’t smart, but because, you know, they are playing their sport 3 hours a day? Just sayin’…

What I believe you are trying to say is that the 1560/4.6W athlete who can spend 3hrs/day doing a sport while still crushing the academics might not be who you want your kid to be competing with.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really about environment, not the dang weather like everyone here is babbling about.

If you’re a bit more academically intense, doesn’t mean you get better grades but maybe you like constantly talking about school and academic life, Williams is perfect. You should ideally be athletic and into nature if you don’t want to go crazy.

Meanwhile if you’re a bit more relaxed and prefer weighing school and social life, Pomona might be a better idea. More options of things to do and more students around.

You realize that “academically intense” and 40% of the freshman class as recruited athletes (yes, the overall percentage is slightly lower, but attrition) is kind of a contradiction? Not because the athletes aren’t smart, but because, you know, they are playing their sport 3 hours a day? Just sayin’…

Sure but 60% aren’t and need to do something on a rural hill campus, so they work.

Um, think real hard. What kind of culture and expectations pervade the academic experience, in terms of work expectations, when 40% can’t do maximum rigor? If you want to work like a dog, go to Swarthmore. If you are unnecessarily working like a dog at Williams, that isn’t something to be proud of; it’s kind of pathetic.

You’re kidding yourself if you think athletes can’t do maximum rigor. They can meet that bar while still devoting huge efforts to their sport. Many of them are just plain smarter than the typical NARP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really about environment, not the dang weather like everyone here is babbling about.

If you’re a bit more academically intense, doesn’t mean you get better grades but maybe you like constantly talking about school and academic life, Williams is perfect. You should ideally be athletic and into nature if you don’t want to go crazy.

Meanwhile if you’re a bit more relaxed and prefer weighing school and social life, Pomona might be a better idea. More options of things to do and more students around.

You realize that “academically intense” and 40% of the freshman class as recruited athletes (yes, the overall percentage is slightly lower, but attrition) is kind of a contradiction? Not because the athletes aren’t smart, but because, you know, they are playing their sport 3 hours a day? Just sayin’…

Sure but 60% aren’t and need to do something on a rural hill campus, so they work.

Um, think real hard. What kind of culture and expectations pervade the academic experience, in terms of work expectations, when 40% can’t do maximum rigor? If you want to work like a dog, go to Swarthmore. If you are unnecessarily working like a dog at Williams, that isn’t something to be proud of; it’s kind of pathetic.

Williams is damned more academically intense than swarthmore. Look at fellowship output and you’ll see that Williams clobbers Swarthmore. Swarthmore’s intensity is mostly BS marketing.

It’s not. I know a group of kids at Swat, Midd, and Williams. Williams is the lightest in terms of workload. All great schools but Swats rep is earned and yes, they are all athletes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really about environment, not the dang weather like everyone here is babbling about.

If you’re a bit more academically intense, doesn’t mean you get better grades but maybe you like constantly talking about school and academic life, Williams is perfect. You should ideally be athletic and into nature if you don’t want to go crazy.

Meanwhile if you’re a bit more relaxed and prefer weighing school and social life, Pomona might be a better idea. More options of things to do and more students around.

You realize that “academically intense” and 40% of the freshman class as recruited athletes (yes, the overall percentage is slightly lower, but attrition) is kind of a contradiction? Not because the athletes aren’t smart, but because, you know, they are playing their sport 3 hours a day? Just sayin’…

Sure but 60% aren’t and need to do something on a rural hill campus, so they work.

Um, think real hard. What kind of culture and expectations pervade the academic experience, in terms of work expectations, when 40% can’t do maximum rigor? If you want to work like a dog, go to Swarthmore. If you are unnecessarily working like a dog at Williams, that isn’t something to be proud of; it’s kind of pathetic.

Williams is damned more academically intense than swarthmore. Look at fellowship output and you’ll see that Williams clobbers Swarthmore. Swarthmore’s intensity is mostly BS marketing.

It’s not. I know a group of kids at Swat, Midd, and Williams. Williams is the lightest in terms of workload. All great schools but Swats rep is earned and yes, they are all athletes.

This lacks so much information. Majors? Same aptitude.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really about environment, not the dang weather like everyone here is babbling about.

If you’re a bit more academically intense, doesn’t mean you get better grades but maybe you like constantly talking about school and academic life, Williams is perfect. You should ideally be athletic and into nature if you don’t want to go crazy.

Meanwhile if you’re a bit more relaxed and prefer weighing school and social life, Pomona might be a better idea. More options of things to do and more students around.

You realize that “academically intense” and 40% of the freshman class as recruited athletes (yes, the overall percentage is slightly lower, but attrition) is kind of a contradiction? Not because the athletes aren’t smart, but because, you know, they are playing their sport 3 hours a day? Just sayin’…

Sure but 60% aren’t and need to do something on a rural hill campus, so they work.

Um, think real hard. What kind of culture and expectations pervade the academic experience, in terms of work expectations, when 40% can’t do maximum rigor? If you want to work like a dog, go to Swarthmore. If you are unnecessarily working like a dog at Williams, that isn’t something to be proud of; it’s kind of pathetic.

You’re kidding yourself if you think athletes can’t do maximum rigor. They can meet that bar while still devoting huge efforts to their sport. Many of them are just plain smarter than the typical NARP.

Agreed. Some of the smartest kids I knew in college were athletes. It gives them structure and they were very disciplined. And many sports are just one semester.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really about environment, not the dang weather like everyone here is babbling about.

If you’re a bit more academically intense, doesn’t mean you get better grades but maybe you like constantly talking about school and academic life, Williams is perfect. You should ideally be athletic and into nature if you don’t want to go crazy.

Meanwhile if you’re a bit more relaxed and prefer weighing school and social life, Pomona might be a better idea. More options of things to do and more students around.

You realize that “academically intense” and 40% of the freshman class as recruited athletes (yes, the overall percentage is slightly lower, but attrition) is kind of a contradiction? Not because the athletes aren’t smart, but because, you know, they are playing their sport 3 hours a day? Just sayin’…

Sure but 60% aren’t and need to do something on a rural hill campus, so they work.

Um, think real hard. What kind of culture and expectations pervade the academic experience, in terms of work expectations, when 40% can’t do maximum rigor? If you want to work like a dog, go to Swarthmore. If you are unnecessarily working like a dog at Williams, that isn’t something to be proud of; it’s kind of pathetic.

You’re kidding yourself if you think athletes can’t do maximum rigor. They can meet that bar while still devoting huge efforts to their sport. Many of them are just plain smarter than the typical NARP.

Agreed. Some of the smartest kids I knew in college were athletes. It gives them structure and they were very disciplined. And many sports are just one semester.

Most athletes get Econ degrees and take school on easy mode.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really about environment, not the dang weather like everyone here is babbling about.

If you’re a bit more academically intense, doesn’t mean you get better grades but maybe you like constantly talking about school and academic life, Williams is perfect. You should ideally be athletic and into nature if you don’t want to go crazy.

Meanwhile if you’re a bit more relaxed and prefer weighing school and social life, Pomona might be a better idea. More options of things to do and more students around.

You realize that “academically intense” and 40% of the freshman class as recruited athletes (yes, the overall percentage is slightly lower, but attrition) is kind of a contradiction? Not because the athletes aren’t smart, but because, you know, they are playing their sport 3 hours a day? Just sayin’…

Sure but 60% aren’t and need to do something on a rural hill campus, so they work.

Um, think real hard. What kind of culture and expectations pervade the academic experience, in terms of work expectations, when 40% can’t do maximum rigor? If you want to work like a dog, go to Swarthmore. If you are unnecessarily working like a dog at Williams, that isn’t something to be proud of; it’s kind of pathetic.

You’re kidding yourself if you think athletes can’t do maximum rigor. They can meet that bar while still devoting huge efforts to their sport. Many of them are just plain smarter than the typical NARP.

Agreed. Some of the smartest kids I knew in college were athletes. It gives them structure and they were very disciplined. And many sports are just one semester.

Then you never met a real grinder. Athletes may be smart but they just don’t have the time. They have the time to do really well at Williams, though. Get it?