DCC and NEC families, how do you feel about them (likely) going away?

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any information on the timing of all of this? Wondering on a personal level for my rising 8th grader, but also interested more generally about the transition plan for these changes.


The changes will start going into effect fall 2027, but (unless the Board votes down the MCPS recommendation) the plan is to grandfather all kids already enrolled in academic programs or consortium schools before then. So your rising 8th grader should get to stay wherever they start 9th grade, but the classes behind them will change over to the new rules


Is this really true/how it will work, though? Because non consortium rising 8th graders are being told they may start 9th in their current boundary school but may be required to switch to the new boundary for 10th. Will DCC kids who choose their zoned school be allowed to stay or forced to switch? I know there are not answers yet to these questions. And it would be really weird to open Woodward in 2027 with only 9th graders if they don’t switch any 10th graders. But people should have clarity on their options this fall.


I agree they should clarify. I heard Taylor say that he wants students who start a program at a school to be able to finish it, but it's unclear if the DCC academies are considered programs. For example, at Einstein it seems a student in the VAC would be able to stay and finish that criteria-based program, but would a student in the opt-in VAPA still be reassigned?


This was included in the slides at last week's meeting:

"Students entering Grades in 2025–2026, who have been accepted into a
centrally-managed application program or assigned to a consortium may
remain in their current program/school."


??? Being able to stay in a program I could see. Being able to stay in a consortium chosen school I can’t see that.
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Anonymous wrote:While some parents and families have been happy to be able to select a school, the consortia model has been an abject failure.

The original reason the NEC and DCC were created was so that MCPS/BOE didn't have to draw hard boundary lines when Blake opened and Northwood reopened. Boundary studies and hard boundary lines are divisive and controversial (see what is happening now with Woodward/Crown). Instead, they opted to make soft boundary lines with a promise that families would have choices.

What has happened over time is:

1. The signature programs have become less and less "signature". There really is very little difference in course offerings from school to school within the consortia.

2. The schools in the consortia have very little sense of community, with lots of vertical articulation challenges. Listen to all the outcry about splitting elementary and middle schools in the Crown/Woodward studies. There is a reason those communities are against splitting their feeder schools. In the NEC and DCC, it is splitting feeders on steroids.

3. MCPS is spending significant money by sending five buses to every DCC bus stop and three to every NEC bus stop.

4. In the NEC in particular, there was a goal to try to socially engineer demographics in the three schools through the choice lottery system. As time went on though, the NEC as a whole became more and more homogenous. Twenty years ago, Blake was the "white" school, PB the "black" school and Springbrook the "Hispanic" school. The three schools look very similar to each other now.

5. Extracurricular activity involvement becomes a real challenge in the consortia. Getting rides home after practices or rehearsals or back to school for games or concerts is a big challenge when everyone lives to spread out. Add in the challenge that families don't know each other well and carpooling to/from school activities is extremely difficult.

6. In the DCC in particular, things were never going to be on an even playing field when comparing the schools. From Blair's specialty programs to Wheaton's brand new school, some of the schools were always going to get the short end of the stick (Kennedy and Northwood in particular). Northwood's new facility will hopefully improve things, but the long layover at Woodward exacerbated the gap.

Staff at the schools will be ecstatic if/when the consortia go away. Families will initially be upset - any time choice is taken away it isn't popular. But going away from the consortia is in the best interests of MCPS and the individual schools.

It will be interesting to see if these "region" models have the same negative impacts on all 25 schools, or if the number of students going to their non-home school is minimal.


Northwood will get the CAP from Blair and has the Montgomery College program, so I am optimistic for Northwood.



What is the source of the information that CAP will move to Northwood?


No source because nothing has been decided and announced. It’s DCUM speculation
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Anonymous wrote:Is there any information on the timing of all of this? Wondering on a personal level for my rising 8th grader, but also interested more generally about the transition plan for these changes.


The changes will start going into effect fall 2027, but (unless the Board votes down the MCPS recommendation) the plan is to grandfather all kids already enrolled in academic programs or consortium schools before then. So your rising 8th grader should get to stay wherever they start 9th grade, but the classes behind them will change over to the new rules


Is this really true/how it will work, though? Because non consortium rising 8th graders are being told they may start 9th in their current boundary school but may be required to switch to the new boundary for 10th. Will DCC kids who choose their zoned school be allowed to stay or forced to switch? I know there are not answers yet to these questions. And it would be really weird to open Woodward in 2027 with only 9th graders if they don’t switch any 10th graders. But people should have clarity on their options this fall.


I agree they should clarify. I heard Taylor say that he wants students who start a program at a school to be able to finish it, but it's unclear if the DCC academies are considered programs. For example, at Einstein it seems a student in the VAC would be able to stay and finish that criteria-based program, but would a student in the opt-in VAPA still be reassigned?


This was included in the slides at last week's meeting:

"Students entering Grades in 2025–2026, who have been accepted into a
centrally-managed application program or assigned to a consortium may
remain in their current program/school."


??? Being able to stay in a program I could see. Being able to stay in a consortium chosen school I can’t see that.


Students have to do their consortium ranking this fall so they need to know whether they'll get to stay as they make those decisions. Hence the clear statement from MCPS.
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Anonymous wrote:Is there any information on the timing of all of this? Wondering on a personal level for my rising 8th grader, but also interested more generally about the transition plan for these changes.


The changes will start going into effect fall 2027, but (unless the Board votes down the MCPS recommendation) the plan is to grandfather all kids already enrolled in academic programs or consortium schools before then. So your rising 8th grader should get to stay wherever they start 9th grade, but the classes behind them will change over to the new rules


Is this really true/how it will work, though? Because non consortium rising 8th graders are being told they may start 9th in their current boundary school but may be required to switch to the new boundary for 10th. Will DCC kids who choose their zoned school be allowed to stay or forced to switch? I know there are not answers yet to these questions. And it would be really weird to open Woodward in 2027 with only 9th graders if they don’t switch any 10th graders. But people should have clarity on their options this fall.


I agree they should clarify. I heard Taylor say that he wants students who start a program at a school to be able to finish it, but it's unclear if the DCC academies are considered programs. For example, at Einstein it seems a student in the VAC would be able to stay and finish that criteria-based program, but would a student in the opt-in VAPA still be reassigned?


This was included in the slides at last week's meeting:

"Students entering Grades in 2025–2026, who have been accepted into a
centrally-managed application program or assigned to a consortium may
remain in their current program/school."


??? Being able to stay in a program I could see. Being able to stay in a consortium chosen school I can’t see that.


Students have to do their consortium ranking this fall so they need to know whether they'll get to stay as they make those decisions. Hence the clear statement from MCPS.


Yes but sophomores usually have to more. Only Junior and Seniors typically get grandfathered. SO it makes no sense IMHO, to say that consortium choice will prevail. Program acceptance, Yes.
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Anonymous wrote:Is there any information on the timing of all of this? Wondering on a personal level for my rising 8th grader, but also interested more generally about the transition plan for these changes.


The changes will start going into effect fall 2027, but (unless the Board votes down the MCPS recommendation) the plan is to grandfather all kids already enrolled in academic programs or consortium schools before then. So your rising 8th grader should get to stay wherever they start 9th grade, but the classes behind them will change over to the new rules


I don't see how MCPS can pull off conducting grandfathered classes while trying to stand up new programs. I wonder if the "new" programs will just be the same academic choices that have historically bee at most schools.
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