giant wagons instead of strollers.

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I used one of those folding wagons (that say not to be used for children) from Costco. It only cost $100 or maybe less.
It was so useful. I could fold it up and carry it on public transit. We could keep the cooler of food in there at a zoo or amusement park. Kids could even nap in there. I had a happy memory of DH and I enjoying cocktails in Chicago while both kids slept in the wagon, then train ride home.
Never occurred to me that these were yet another thing people are annoyed by.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post a link of giant wagons?

They vary a lot. There are reasonably compact ones that function a lot like a stroller like this: https://goveer.com/products/cruiser-city

But there are also much bigger wagons for more kids, with awnings, etc., like this: https://www.potterybarnkids.com/products/wonderfold-x4-pull-push-quad-stroller-wagon/

It's a very broad category, much broader than the stroller category in terms of size.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't figure out why people go to places requiring giant wagons. If your kids aren't old enough to walk, is it really a great and memorable experience?

Never seen a child younger than 1 in a wagon I Don’t think. Not sure the wagon use has anything to do with walking ability except with special needs obviously.

Some have stroller handles for pushing and infant seat attachments. My kids are teens so those didn’t exist when they were young but I’ve seen these wagon strollers around

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Anonymous wrote:My wife insisted on buying one on the grounds that it was impossible to travel with two kids on a plane without it. My father in law hated it and it didn't fit in his car when she took it to visit her parents. I hate it because it's extremely heavy and cumbersome to lug up and down the stairs. So now we have this $700 wagon sitting around in our spare bedroom, and haven't used it in a couple years. Of course, once she figured out that it wasn't really that practical we had to go and buy yet another stroller, so now we're out a grand total of $850 for strollers.

I traveled solo with kids via plane a lot when they were under 6. They are 1.5 years apart. Wear / carry infant through security, the older one walks through. Umbrella stroller for trips with 2 kids. Checked carseat(s) for free. Bought FAA approved seatbelts for toddlers/little kids for seating. Simple. I would put suit case, seats, diaper bag and stroller on cart then shuttle to rental car place. Sounds like your wife packs to much. I did take a stand-sit stroller once for large trip zoo trip when they were 2 and 3. Honestly rhat was the best purchase after the umbrellastroller. Traveling solo and light was the best learning experience for all of us.

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We were at Great Wolf Lodge and I saw a family struggling mightily to try to wheel the wagon around with all the chairs in the pool area. I turned my husband and joked that the wagons were like the SUV of strollers

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Anonymous wrote:These things are huge and cumbersome. Went to Hershey a few weeks ago and they were everywhere. I understand why they could be useful for the beach but are people really using these things instead of strollers for outings? They look heavy to pull. Obviously they can carry way more than a stroller but really? Are these wagons really so much better than a stroller?

I think they are great. I would have bought and used one with glee if they had been available. As it was, we used a Bugaboo Donkey all over Europe/USA.

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Anonymous wrote:When we used to take the kids out in the wagon p, without fail there would be older people pointing and saying “aw, look how cute” as well as other families asking where we got the wagon. It is funny to now think there was also silent third group shooting daggers!

Right?! Never realized they get so much hate. The last time we used ours was at Busch Gardens with our 5 year old and it was super helpful for carrying things and giving him time to reset/eat. We have one of the Red Flyer wagons with the detachable top and it folds easily. It can be pushed or pulled and some of the complaints about pulling or being too heavy don’t apply in our case. In any event, some of these people get too worked up about others’ choices. There are much worse things in the world than the use of wagons.

What? What massive supplies are you carrying around Busch Gardens? Why can't a 5 year old eat sitting on a bench or at a table? This makes no sense but it does speak to the "when all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail" mentality of people who drop $700 on a wagon. Once you've got it you have to justify it by using it all the time, even when it makes no sense (like providing a place for an elementary schooler to . . . "reset" in the middle of a theme park??).

Well Im not the PP but we will need to use it because of life-threatening allergies. Its a safe place she can eat and oh, we have to bring all of her food too! So a cooler of food plus a clean place to eat.
5-year-olds also may need shade but the rest of the family still wants to ride or needs to give their little legs a break for minute or two. Or is a runner but will sit in the wagon.
Its okay for different families to have different needs.
I also think your ES comment is disingenuous because you are making it sound like its a 10-year-old. The kid is 5- may be in/not in ES but he/she is still a young child.

It's disingenuous to say a child in elementary school is in elementary school, because other children that are different ages are also in elementary school? No. And your comment about "little legs" is exactly my point - you're infantilizing a five year old kid here. You are treating them like toddlers when they are entirely capable of walking. If they need a two minute break, you sit down somewhere for 2 minutes, you don't inconvenience everyone else in the park instead.

I replied to someone saying they were bringing a giant wagon for a place to eat and reset, not for medical reasons or to prevent elopement. You're just making up shiny new reasons that could theoretically edge toward defensible in order to cover up the truth - once people shell out on these wagons they use them all the time, well past the age it makes sense to bring a carrier for their kid(s), when they're not necessary at all, and create public nuisances.

A red Ryder wagon is $125.00. Nowhere near $700.00.

You don’t know the needs of others. “Reset” for my child has everything to do with medical needs in addition to elopement. It was not necessary to give you his medical history.


Your preference does not equal an inconvenience. Describe the ways a wagon at an amusement park has been a public nuisance for you. Only outliers block walkways and they fit in stroller parking just fine. Step into 2025

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Anonymous wrote:When we used to take the kids out in the wagon p, without fail there would be older people pointing and saying “aw, look how cute” as well as other families asking where we got the wagon. It is funny to now think there was also silent third group shooting daggers!

Right?! Never realized they get so much hate. The last time we used ours was at Busch Gardens with our 5 year old and it was super helpful for carrying things and giving him time to reset/eat. We have one of the Red Flyer wagons with the detachable top and it folds easily. It can be pushed or pulled and some of the complaints about pulling or being too heavy don’t apply in our case. In any event, some of these people get too worked up about others’ choices. There are much worse things in the world than the use of wagons.

What? What massive supplies are you carrying around Busch Gardens? Why can't a 5 year old eat sitting on a bench or at a table? This makes no sense but it does speak to the "when all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail" mentality of people who drop $700 on a wagon. Once you've got it you have to justify it by using it all the time, even when it makes no sense (like providing a place for an elementary schooler to . . . "reset" in the middle of a theme park??).

Well Im not the PP but we will need to use it because of life-threatening allergies. Its a safe place she can eat and oh, we have to bring all of her food too! So a cooler of food plus a clean place to eat.
5-year-olds also may need shade but the rest of the family still wants to ride or needs to give their little legs a break for minute or two. Or is a runner but will sit in the wagon.
Its okay for different families to have different needs.
I also think your ES comment is disingenuous because you are making it sound like its a 10-year-old. The kid is 5- may be in/not in ES but he/she is still a young child.

It's disingenuous to say a child in elementary school is in elementary school, because other children that are different ages are also in elementary school? No. And your comment about "little legs" is exactly my point - you're infantilizing a five year old kid here. You are treating them like toddlers when they are entirely capable of walking. If they need a two minute break, you sit down somewhere for 2 minutes, you don't inconvenience everyone else in the park instead.

I replied to someone saying they were bringing a giant wagon for a place to eat and reset, not for medical reasons or to prevent elopement. You're just making up shiny new reasons that could theoretically edge toward defensible in order to cover up the truth - once people shell out on these wagons they use them all the time, well past the age it makes sense to bring a carrier for their kid(s), when they're not necessary at all, and create public nuisances.

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She even descirbes a FIVE year old as a "runner."

The last time I went to an amusement park, I logged 16 miles. It’s completely reasonable for a kid to sit in a wagon. Why do you all care so much about other people’s children when there are much worse things in the world.

Some of y’all just sound like haters, lol. Just because you didn’t think of it or can’t afford it you’re mad. Grow up (like you want 5 year olds to do). Haha! And you all wonder why the kids are not alright these days. You all worry about the wrong things.

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Anonymous wrote:When we used to take the kids out in the wagon p, without fail there would be older people pointing and saying “aw, look how cute” as well as other families asking where we got the wagon. It is funny to now think there was also silent third group shooting daggers!

Right?! Never realized they get so much hate. The last time we used ours was at Busch Gardens with our 5 year old and it was super helpful for carrying things and giving him time to reset/eat. We have one of the Red Flyer wagons with the detachable top and it folds easily. It can be pushed or pulled and some of the complaints about pulling or being too heavy don’t apply in our case. In any event, some of these people get too worked up about others’ choices. There are much worse things in the world than the use of wagons.

What? What massive supplies are you carrying around Busch Gardens? Why can't a 5 year old eat sitting on a bench or at a table? This makes no sense but it does speak to the "when all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail" mentality of people who drop $700 on a wagon. Once you've got it you have to justify it by using it all the time, even when it makes no sense (like providing a place for an elementary schooler to . . . "reset" in the middle of a theme park??).

Well Im not the PP but we will need to use it because of life-threatening allergies. Its a safe place she can eat and oh, we have to bring all of her food too! So a cooler of food plus a clean place to eat.
5-year-olds also may need shade but the rest of the family still wants to ride or needs to give their little legs a break for minute or two. Or is a runner but will sit in the wagon.
Its okay for different families to have different needs.
I also think your ES comment is disingenuous because you are making it sound like its a 10-year-old. The kid is 5- may be in/not in ES but he/she is still a young child.

It's disingenuous to say a child in elementary school is in elementary school, because other children that are different ages are also in elementary school? No. And your comment about "little legs" is exactly my point - you're infantilizing a five year old kid here. You are treating them like toddlers when they are entirely capable of walking. If they need a two minute break, you sit down somewhere for 2 minutes, you don't inconvenience everyone else in the park instead.

I replied to someone saying they were bringing a giant wagon for a place to eat and reset, not for medical reasons or to prevent elopement. You're just making up shiny new reasons that could theoretically edge toward defensible in order to cover up the truth - once people shell out on these wagons they use them all the time, well past the age it makes sense to bring a carrier for their kid(s), when they're not necessary at all, and create public nuisances.

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She even descirbes a FIVE year old as a "runner."

People use the term "runner" to describe young children who will dart away in public, and need to be kept safe. Having a place you can put them when you need to concentrate on something else (e.g. your other child, or paying for the tickets at entry) can be very important.

And yet, wagons are not in any way a deterrent to a five year old who is a runner. They can get out and take off easily - there aren't any belts or straps, they're tall enough to climb in and out with no help, etc. It was a foolish example because there's no way a wagon makes sense to fix that problem.

Stop speaking on what you don’t know. There are wagons with straps. It’s 2025. You can get whatever you need these days. Maybe some of your blind judgement is based on complete ignorance of the product you hold contempt for.

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Anonymous wrote:I sort of hate strollers and have only used compact ones for my kids, but I still don’t see how or why these bother people more than double strollers.

Because people eventually stop using strollers. If you read this thread you've got a person with a single 5 year old defending bringing a wagon to Busch Gardens so that the kid can sit in it for a few minutes a couple of times. Nobody's brining a double stroller with them to a theme park for a single kindergartener, but once people have these wagons they bring them absolutely everywhere, long past the stroller or double stroller ages, and act like they're not doing anything remarkable.

Let me guess. You have grown children, or at least teens, and you and lurking on a discussion board for something that doesn’t concern you. Based on the post, we don’t know how long the poster’s child had their child in the wagon or what the kid’s needs are. I’m not mad at them even if their kid doesn’t have special needs. We took our kid there and between changing out of wet clothes, carrying souvenirs that we won, and walking the entire park multiple times on an extremely hot day, I get why they would do it.

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Anonymous wrote:When we used to take the kids out in the wagon p, without fail there would be older people pointing and saying “aw, look how cute” as well as other families asking where we got the wagon. It is funny to now think there was also silent third group shooting daggers!

Right?! Never realized they get so much hate. The last time we used ours was at Busch Gardens with our 5 year old and it was super helpful for carrying things and giving him time to reset/eat. We have one of the Red Flyer wagons with the detachable top and it folds easily. It can be pushed or pulled and some of the complaints about pulling or being too heavy don’t apply in our case. In any event, some of these people get too worked up about others’ choices. There are much worse things in the world than the use of wagons.

When your selfish "choices" impact other people, of course they get "worked up."

How are you impacted? You’d be more impacted by the alternative for some folks. But really, the only impact is the second you wasted worrying about someone else. You mean to tell me there is nothing you’ve done in the past 24 hours that doesn’t impact someone else? No.

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Anonymous wrote:I sort of hate strollers and have only used compact ones for my kids, but I still don’t see how or why these bother people more than double strollers.

Because people eventually stop using strollers. If you read this thread you've got a person with a single 5 year old defending bringing a wagon to Busch Gardens so that the kid can sit in it for a few minutes a couple of times. Nobody's brining a double stroller with them to a theme park for a single kindergartener, but once people have these wagons they bring them absolutely everywhere, long past the stroller or double stroller ages, and act like they're not doing anything remarkable.

Let me guess. You have grown children, or at least teens, and you and lurking on a discussion board for something that doesn’t concern you. Based on the post, we don’t know how long the poster’s child had their child in the wagon or what the kid’s needs are. I’m not mad at them even if their kid doesn’t have special needs. We took our kid there and between changing out of wet clothes, carrying souvenirs that we won, and walking the entire park multiple times on an extremely hot day, I get why they would do it.

Terrible guess. I'm not 'lurking' on this board, I'm participating (and this is in general parenting so you might be surprised to learn that even parents of teens "belong" here). I have a baby and a kindergartener, and I don't have a double stroller or wagon because it's a joke to keep a wheeled conveyance for a kindergartener without special needs. Finding out that you annoy everyone around you might be tough, but it doesn't make every poster you're trying to argue with wrong or somehow not allowed to participate in the conversation.

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Anonymous wrote:When we used to take the kids out in the wagon p, without fail there would be older people pointing and saying “aw, look how cute” as well as other families asking where we got the wagon. It is funny to now think there was also silent third group shooting daggers!

Right?! Never realized they get so much hate. The last time we used ours was at Busch Gardens with our 5 year old and it was super helpful for carrying things and giving him time to reset/eat. We have one of the Red Flyer wagons with the detachable top and it folds easily. It can be pushed or pulled and some of the complaints about pulling or being too heavy don’t apply in our case. In any event, some of these people get too worked up about others’ choices. There are much worse things in the world than the use of wagons.

What? What massive supplies are you carrying around Busch Gardens? Why can't a 5 year old eat sitting on a bench or at a table? This makes no sense but it does speak to the "when all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail" mentality of people who drop $700 on a wagon. Once you've got it you have to justify it by using it all the time, even when it makes no sense (like providing a place for an elementary schooler to . . . "reset" in the middle of a theme park??).

Well Im not the PP but we will need to use it because of life-threatening allergies. Its a safe place she can eat and oh, we have to bring all of her food too! So a cooler of food plus a clean place to eat.
5-year-olds also may need shade but the rest of the family still wants to ride or needs to give their little legs a break for minute or two. Or is a runner but will sit in the wagon.
Its okay for different families to have different needs.
I also think your ES comment is disingenuous because you are making it sound like its a 10-year-old. The kid is 5- may be in/not in ES but he/she is still a young child.

It's disingenuous to say a child in elementary school is in elementary school, because other children that are different ages are also in elementary school? No. And your comment about "little legs" is exactly my point - you're infantilizing a five year old kid here. You are treating them like toddlers when they are entirely capable of walking. If they need a two minute break, you sit down somewhere for 2 minutes, you don't inconvenience everyone else in the park instead.

I replied to someone saying they were bringing a giant wagon for a place to eat and reset, not for medical reasons or to prevent elopement. You're just making up shiny new reasons that could theoretically edge toward defensible in order to cover up the truth - once people shell out on these wagons they use them all the time, well past the age it makes sense to bring a carrier for their kid(s), when they're not necessary at all, and create public nuisances.

A red Ryder wagon is $125.00. Nowhere near $700.00.

You don’t know the needs of others. “Reset” for my child has everything to do with medical needs in addition to elopement. It was not necessary to give you his medical history.


Your preference does not equal an inconvenience. Describe the ways a wagon at an amusement park has been a public nuisance for you. Only outliers block walkways and they fit in stroller parking just fine. Step into 2025

a red ryder wagon is not even remotely the kind of wagon we are discussing here. but you already knew that. The wagons we are talking about are expensive and much much larger than the one you mentioned.

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Anonymous wrote:Disney banned them.

I was just at Disney and swear I saw them…