School safety - What is MCPS actually doing and considering doing?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:So many MAGA posting on this thread.


Maybe MCPS should stop giving them so much ammunition.

Thanks for admitting it, but you guys don't need ammunition to start spreading and showing your ignorance.
It's obvious.


You agree MCPS gives plenty of reasons to MAGA. Without that, the MAGA complaints would be hollow. But MCPS always provides concrete examples to bolster the MAGA rants.
Anonymous
I think PP posted a couple of months ago asking specifically about RHES, and with a long list of questions about how "hardened" the school is.

At the time, people mostly gave realistic responses about how MCPS approaches ES security, and how private school standards like dedicated police officers/guards at the ES level were unrealistic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:18:44, Again, schools are simply not equipped to handle medical emergencies. Schools are for teaching and learning.

If parents don’t want to come and pick up their unwell children, then yes, you have to call CPS. Teachers should not be punching bags for violent kids having another episode of rage.


They handle medical emergencies every day. Be real.

Then teachers need to document and fight to get these kids what they need.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:18:44, Again, schools are simply not equipped to handle medical emergencies. Schools are for teaching and learning.

If parents don’t want to come and pick up their unwell children, then yes, you have to call CPS. Teachers should not be punching bags for violent kids having another episode of rage.


They handle medical emergencies every day. Be real.

Then teachers need to document and fight to get these kids what they need.

The Department of Education decided to allow VIOLENT CHILDREN to remain in the classroom. Teachers by themselves have no ability to change the federal mandates.

It’s we, the TAXPAYERS, who have the RESPONSIBILITY and the POWER to DISMANTLE this DESTRUCTIVE federal agency.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Re: mass shootings and drills: this is just a national reality now. Even the private school I worked at had drills and locked doors.

Re: guns confiscated on high school campuses: this is an issue of beefs between specific violent kids with major issues, and highly unlikely to affect your average middle class kid.

Re: chair-throwers: this is the real issue at the elementary level. Kids with emotional disturbances who cannot regulate themselves but who the school cannot legally send elsewhere or restrain or otherwise deal with. This is definitely something you will experience that we need a solution for.

When a kid goes on a chair and desk throwing rampage, why can’t a parent be called to pick up their child?


Because half the time the parents don't pick up the phone. When they do, they often refuse to come get their kid.


That long article about how MCPS is failing our special needs kids did not at all have the perspective that there are some parenting fails that are greatly contributing to the behavior issues. And yes I can confirm that this happens in the ES where I work. Parents don’t want to deal with their own kid.


Here’s an idea. Do the paperwork and push for a special placement and more help. I wouldn’t get my kid either. Don’t have a kid like that but have a kid with sn and we’ve been refused an iep or any help.


Should teachers be assaulted? If a child is violent in the classroom, why wouldn’t you come to get him?


Many of these families beg for help and aren't getting it. If I begged for help and it was denied, at some point no. I tried to get an IEP this year. Long documented SN. I was refused even an evaluation. I reached out the the AP and she said she would help and made a dumb comment why. At some point, schools/admin need to step up and help these kids and teachers or find new jobs.


You responded to a question about classroom violence. A mentality unstable raging child is not a learning problem. It’s a medical problem.

Schools are staffed by teachers, not physicians. If your child is violently raging, he needs a medical facility, not a classroom with a teacher.

Anonymous
One thing MCPS is doing is building new schools that have a color change in the floor tiles in classrooms that clearly demarcates the portion of the room that cannot be seen through the window in the door so people know where to hide if there’s an active shooter. We now build schools with that in mind. Poolesville High School’s new building that opened last year has this feature.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:One thing MCPS is doing is building new schools that have a color change in the floor tiles in classrooms that clearly demarcates the portion of the room that cannot be seen through the window in the door so people know where to hide if there’s an active shooter. We now build schools with that in mind. Poolesville High School’s new building that opened last year has this feature.


I don't understand this when most school shootings are inside jobs and the shooter will know this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Re: mass shootings and drills: this is just a national reality now. Even the private school I worked at had drills and locked doors.

Re: guns confiscated on high school campuses: this is an issue of beefs between specific violent kids with major issues, and highly unlikely to affect your average middle class kid.

Re: chair-throwers: this is the real issue at the elementary level. Kids with emotional disturbances who cannot regulate themselves but who the school cannot legally send elsewhere or restrain or otherwise deal with. This is definitely something you will experience that we need a solution for.

When a kid goes on a chair and desk throwing rampage, why can’t a parent be called to pick up their child?


Because half the time the parents don't pick up the phone. When they do, they often refuse to come get their kid.


That long article about how MCPS is failing our special needs kids did not at all have the perspective that there are some parenting fails that are greatly contributing to the behavior issues. And yes I can confirm that this happens in the ES where I work. Parents don’t want to deal with their own kid.


Here’s an idea. Do the paperwork and push for a special placement and more help. I wouldn’t get my kid either. Don’t have a kid like that but have a kid with sn and we’ve been refused an iep or any help.

It’s the VIOLENT kids who need to be immediately removed from the school. They need professional, medical attention.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many MAGA posting on this thread.


Maybe MCPS should stop giving them so much ammunition.

Thanks for admitting it, but you guys don't need ammunition to start spreading and showing your ignorance.
It's obvious.


You agree MCPS gives plenty of reasons to MAGA. Without that, the MAGA complaints would be hollow. But MCPS always provides concrete examples to bolster the MAGA rants.

LOL
There's no concrete evidence, but y'all MAGAs don't need or care about evidence or truth to start spreading misinformation and fear mongering.
Your post and this thread are perfect example.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:18:44, Again, schools are simply not equipped to handle medical emergencies. Schools are for teaching and learning.

If parents don’t want to come and pick up their unwell children, then yes, you have to call CPS. Teachers should not be punching bags for violent kids having another episode of rage.


They handle medical emergencies every day. Be real.

Then teachers need to document and fight to get these kids what they need.

The Department of Education decided to allow VIOLENT CHILDREN to remain in the classroom. Teachers by themselves have no ability to change the federal mandates.

It’s we, the TAXPAYERS, who have the RESPONSIBILITY and the POWER to DISMANTLE this DESTRUCTIVE federal agency.


Could you provide a citation for this? Statute or case law? Genuinely curious.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:18:44, Again, schools are simply not equipped to handle medical emergencies. Schools are for teaching and learning.

If parents don’t want to come and pick up their unwell children, then yes, you have to call CPS. Teachers should not be punching bags for violent kids having another episode of rage.


They handle medical emergencies every day. Be real.

Then teachers need to document and fight to get these kids what they need.

You want teachers to get psychiatrist appointments for the violent kids?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many MAGA posting on this thread.


Maybe MCPS should stop giving them so much ammunition.

Thanks for admitting it, but you guys don't need ammunition to start spreading and showing your ignorance.
It's obvious.


You agree MCPS gives plenty of reasons to MAGA. Without that, the MAGA complaints would be hollow. But MCPS always provides concrete examples to bolster the MAGA rants.

LOL
There's no concrete evidence, but y'all MAGAs don't need or care about evidence or truth to start spreading misinformation and fear mongering.
Your post and this thread are perfect example.


Not MAGA. As long as you ignore reality, MAGA flourish.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing MCPS is doing is building new schools that have a color change in the floor tiles in classrooms that clearly demarcates the portion of the room that cannot be seen through the window in the door so people know where to hide if there’s an active shooter. We now build schools with that in mind. Poolesville High School’s new building that opened last year has this feature.


I don't understand this when most school shootings are inside jobs and the shooter will know this.


I think it doesn’t matter if the shooter knows. If the shooter can’t see that area from the window, it also means a bullet shot from the window probably can’t hit someone there (I guess they should stick their arm in as far as it goes and shoot blind, but I think that’s much harder to do).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So many MAGA posting on this thread.


Maybe MCPS should stop giving them so much ammunition.

Thanks for admitting it, but you guys don't need ammunition to start spreading and showing your ignorance.
It's obvious.


You agree MCPS gives plenty of reasons to MAGA. Without that, the MAGA complaints would be hollow. But MCPS always provides concrete examples to bolster the MAGA rants.

LOL
There's no concrete evidence, but y'all MAGAs don't need or care about evidence or truth to start spreading misinformation and fear mongering.
Your post and this thread are perfect example.

Stop being so divisive. No one wants violence in classrooms. Do you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:18:44, Again, schools are simply not equipped to handle medical emergencies. Schools are for teaching and learning.

If parents don’t want to come and pick up their unwell children, then yes, you have to call CPS. Teachers should not be punching bags for violent kids having another episode of rage.


They handle medical emergencies every day. Be real.

Then teachers need to document and fight to get these kids what they need.

You want teachers to get psychiatrist appointments for the violent kids?


You really have no clue. They need do document the behaviors, speak up at iep meetings, etc.
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