Here is a revised version with improved grammar, clarity, and flow: ⸻ It is well documented that higher-tax states pay more in federal taxes than they receive in return. So how do higher-tax states subsidize lower-tax states? The answer lies in the fact that lower-tax states rely more heavily on federal funding to support their budgets. That’s the essence of the subsidy. Even before the SALT cap change in 2017, high-tax states were still contributing more to the federal government than they received. Increasing the SALT deduction would simply reduce the extent to which high-tax states subsidize low-tax states. https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700 |
Yeah yeah I used ChatGPT to fix my grammar. |
You are wrong. No state government pays a dime to the Federal government in taxes. Not one. This where this BS logic breaks down. US citizens with the same income/deductions pay the same Federal tax, regardless of what state they live in. They may pay higher state taxes b/c they CHOOSE to live in a state with higher state tax rates. Hopefully, they feel they are getting something valuable for the higher state taxes. If not, then move to a state with a lower state income tax. So own your CHOICE, pay your state taxes without Federal subsidy, and quit whining about it. |
I’m fine with my taxes. I’m against carve outs if SALT is expanded. I’m also against mortgage interest being written off up to $1M for homes bought before 2017 and up to $750K for homes bought after, which is an even more arbitrary carve out. End the carve outs! |
No. Poorer states with lower income taxes take higher subsidies from the federal government for things like Medicaid, school lunches, etc. When every state receives equal federal dollars per capita, then we can stop deducting state taxes. |
| SALT means the federal government is paying for 37% of the state taxes and mortgage interest of high-income taxpayers, but only 22-24% of state taxes/mortgage interest for taxpayers at the median income (or none if they take the standard deduction). That is not a sane policy, particularly when virtually every other feature of the tax code is aimed at progressivity. Just lower the rates and do away with the deductions! |
| I’d MUCH prefer he abandon the SALT than take Medicaid and snap away from those who need it. It will affect us all - hospitals will close, children will go hungry, the sick will get sicker and cost more to treat - and women will be the ones to suffer, caring for the elderly who get kicked out of the nursing homes. |
You can frame it that way but that’s not the reality on the ground. Low tax states take in more federal dollars than they pay out through its citizens. Hope that helps |
Federal payments to certain states exceed federal income received from those states' taxpayers. Quit with your whiny analysis. |
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Just reached agreement on $40,000 SALT Max.
That is perfect. Does not really help the really rich. But really helps the people like me. One income, kids in college. But I live in Montgomery County with property taxes of soon to be $18,000 a year and my MoCo income tax is like $12,000 a year My property taxes keep going up but the 10K limit stayed the same. People in particular older people with high property taxes and no mortgage got slammed. My 80 year old Aunt has a house on Long Island and a condo in Florida she bought years ago and her SS and RMDs are taxed at state level. This is a god send. She is a widow and only got standard deduction $14,600. Now she can write off a ton more. |
FYI SS is not taxed at the state level in FL or NY, or VA or MD, for that matter. |
The mortgage interest is the same. And given the cap at $750,000 max mortgage and that anyone who bought before 2023 for most part has an extemely low mortgage rate it is not that valuable as it used to be. Yes a buyer today taking a $750K loan at 7 percent a huge write off. But 40 percent home owners have no mortgage at all and anyone who bought 5 years or further back bought cheap and nearly all refinanced. The Property taxes is far greater than mortgage write off the majority of people who bought over ten years ago. The big gift in this is vacation home owners with no mortgage who DONT rent out property as now they can deduct the property tax. |
Washington State isn’t subsidized by wealthier states… |
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As someone who pays more than $10,000 in SALT each year and itemizes deductions, let me join the other people in this thread who would be better off if this policy changed but still recognize that letting people who make more money find additional tax shelters is unfair.
They should leave the cap as it is or ban deduction of state taxes outright, and they should also stop subsidizing my mortgage with that deduction, while they're at it. |
The SALT deduction has an income cap. |