Epstein and Prince Andrew Accuser is Dying

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lets not forget this fact “ Giuffre met former Jeffrey Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell in 2000 while working as a locker room attendant at now-President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort.”

People seem to forget this.

How is this relevant?

Everything is relevant to the TDS crowd.

[Anonymous]

Look, it may well be that she faked the accident and/or--IMO more likely--that there was an accident and she milked it to get attention, especially from her kids.

However, the idea that she was equally complicit in being trafficked is nauseating. If you want to know some facts, at least read the Wikipedia article about her. From that you'll learn that she was a runaway, had previously been living with a different sex traffiker, ended up living on the streets, and was then reunited with her father by social services. She hadn't seen her father or had any other contact with him for years.

Ghislaine saw her reading a book about massage and asked her if she was interested in getting into the field. She was; that's why she was reading the book. Ghislaine said she could come work for Epstein and he would arrange for her to get professional training as a masseuse. Her first few visits to Epstein's home didn't involve sex.

So, try to put yourself in her position. She's incredibly vulnerable, has very little education--probably not even any high school--and someone who seems like she's a very kind, wealthy woman takes an interest in you. Ghislaine played this same role--this kind, wealthy woman who took an interest in a vulnerable young woman and offered a way out of poverty to MANY other young women, so I believe Virginia's version of events.

At some point, could she have complained? Sure. Would she have been believed at that point? Highly unlikely. I think at first she only had to have sex with one person, Epstein. Then, according to her, Ghislaine told her she would have to do what she did for "Jeffrey" for Prince Andrew. What if she had walked into a London police station and said "I was brought over from the US to have sex with Prince Andrew and last night we did and I am underage?" You think anyone would have taken her seriously? She'd have been lucky if she didn't get put in a looney bin.

Not only was she incredibly vulnerable herself, but her father--who doesn't come across as a saint--worked at Marlargo. He got her the job there. How long do you think his job would have lasted if his daughter made public allegations about what happened to her? Do you think he would have allowed her to continue to live with him?

Lets not pretend that being trafficked was her choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does Australia have different laws because she looks pretty banged up with a head injury

The bus driver barely clipped a car she wasn't even in and did some minor damage to the taillight. It was her caretaker who was driving and the bus driver said the whole thing seemed very suspect so he reported it, even though he wasn't required to report it. She fashioned some wild story around that incident. The photo she posted has her with a few electrodes on her chest that are not even hooked up. Renal failure? She would not be posting on Insta and they could keep her alive along time with dialysis waiting for a kidney donor. It's all bullshit. She deleted the post too late claiming she posted it "accidentally." It's no wonder her ex has full custody and her kids won't have anything to do with her.

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Wait, she wasn’t even in the car?!

[Anonymous]

She is still alive so clearly she is prone to exaggerating and embellishing her condition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She is still alive so clearly she is prone to exaggerating and embellishing her condition.

She was due in court due to breaching the restraining order against her for domestic violence. She is fine.

[Anonymous]

Well today’s the day. Is she dead?

[Anonymous]

According to the DM, she was admitted to hospital the week after the accident. Maybe mental health / self harm related. Given all her legal and families woes, se might not be coping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, it may well be that she faked the accident and/or--IMO more likely--that there was an accident and she milked it to get attention, especially from her kids.

However, the idea that she was equally complicit in being trafficked is nauseating. If you want to know some facts, at least read the Wikipedia article about her. From that you'll learn that she was a runaway, had previously been living with a different sex traffiker, ended up living on the streets, and was then reunited with her father by social services. She hadn't seen her father or had any other contact with him for years.

Ghislaine saw her reading a book about massage and asked her if she was interested in getting into the field. She was; that's why she was reading the book. Ghislaine said she could come work for Epstein and he would arrange for her to get professional training as a masseuse. Her first few visits to Epstein's home didn't involve sex.

So, try to put yourself in her position. She's incredibly vulnerable, has very little education--probably not even any high school--and someone who seems like she's a very kind, wealthy woman takes an interest in you. Ghislaine played this same role--this kind, wealthy woman who took an interest in a vulnerable young woman and offered a way out of poverty to MANY other young women, so I believe Virginia's version of events.

At some point, could she have complained? Sure. Would she have been believed at that point? Highly unlikely. I think at first she only had to have sex with one person, Epstein. Then, according to her, Ghislaine told her she would have to do what she did for "Jeffrey" for Prince Andrew. What if she had walked into a London police station and said "I was brought over from the US to have sex with Prince Andrew and last night we did and I am underage?" You think anyone would have taken her seriously? She'd have been lucky if she didn't get put in a looney bin.

Not only was she incredibly vulnerable herself, but her father--who doesn't come across as a saint--worked at Marlargo. He got her the job there. How long do you think his job would have lasted if his daughter made public allegations about what happened to her? Do you think he would have allowed her to continue to live with him?

Lets not pretend that being trafficked was her choice.

+1 I feel really bad for her. Such a sad story and no wonder she's not mentally well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well today’s the day. Is she dead?

Nope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, it may well be that she faked the accident and/or--IMO more likely--that there was an accident and she milked it to get attention, especially from her kids.

However, the idea that she was equally complicit in being trafficked is nauseating. If you want to know some facts, at least read the Wikipedia article about her. From that you'll learn that she was a runaway, had previously been living with a different sex traffiker, ended up living on the streets, and was then reunited with her father by social services. She hadn't seen her father or had any other contact with him for years.

Ghislaine saw her reading a book about massage and asked her if she was interested in getting into the field. She was; that's why she was reading the book. Ghislaine said she could come work for Epstein and he would arrange for her to get professional training as a masseuse. Her first few visits to Epstein's home didn't involve sex.

So, try to put yourself in her position. She's incredibly vulnerable, has very little education--probably not even any high school--and someone who seems like she's a very kind, wealthy woman takes an interest in you. Ghislaine played this same role--this kind, wealthy woman who took an interest in a vulnerable young woman and offered a way out of poverty to MANY other young women, so I believe Virginia's version of events.

At some point, could she have complained? Sure. Would she have been believed at that point? Highly unlikely. I think at first she only had to have sex with one person, Epstein. Then, according to her, Ghislaine told her she would have to do what she did for "Jeffrey" for Prince Andrew. What if she had walked into a London police station and said "I was brought over from the US to have sex with Prince Andrew and last night we did and I am underage?" You think anyone would have taken her seriously? She'd have been lucky if she didn't get put in a looney bin.

Not only was she incredibly vulnerable herself, but her father--who doesn't come across as a saint--worked at Marlargo. He got her the job there. How long do you think his job would have lasted if his daughter made public allegations about what happened to her? Do you think he would have allowed her to continue to live with him?

Lets not pretend that being trafficked was her choice.

+1 I feel really bad for her. Such a sad story and no wonder she's not mentally well.

+1

[Anonymous]

https://people.com/virginia-giuffre-alleges-husband-physically-abused-her-exclusive-11708702

Still alive.

[Anonymous]

Left the hospital today.

[Anonymous]

It's ridiculous that she would have been told she had 4 days to live, no matter what. Hospitals stabilize people with injuries. If they have renal damage, they do dialysis. If she had been "dying" she would have been in ICU, hooked up with central lines and whatever.