Waning influence of US News, rankings in general & only 10% look at specific rank

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.luminafoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Give-the-kids-some-credit.pdf

Apparently only 10% of students look at a specific rank while searching for colleges and the influence of US News & rankings in general is waning. Is college admissions culture shifting to prioritizing fit above rank because of admissions difficulty, shifting methodologies, etc.?

"...What did we find? Most students report considering some sources of rankings (around 6 in 10)...."

6 in 10 is 60%. Not 10%

And...they like Niche more. Great rankings there.

Nice try.

+1. And over 80% of high scorers (ACT 30+ and SAT 1400+). The 10% is only for using the rankings to identify a specific rank, and even then the number is higher for those using it to find a general range (eg, T20).

Note the percent consulting rankings is higher for those attending private high school and looking at private colleges, which probably helps to explain the rankings rage here.

Another person who didn’t read the article.

No, I actually did read it and this is exactly what it says.

Sorry you fixated on one data point because it confirms your priors and ignored the rest.

The article is crystal clear that the use of USNews rankings has decreased and 3/4 either don’t use rankings at all or don’t use it throughout the decision making process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.luminafoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Give-the-kids-some-credit.pdf

Apparently only 10% of students look at a specific rank while searching for colleges and the influence of US News & rankings in general is waning. Is college admissions culture shifting to prioritizing fit above rank because of admissions difficulty, shifting methodologies, etc.?

"...What did we find? Most students report considering some sources of rankings (around 6 in 10)...."

6 in 10 is 60%. Not 10%

And...they like Niche more. Great rankings there.

Nice try.

+1. And over 80% of high scorers (ACT 30+ and SAT 1400+). The 10% is only for using the rankings to identify a specific rank, and even then the number is higher for those using it to find a general range (eg, T20).

Note the percent consulting rankings is higher for those attending private high school and looking at private colleges, which probably helps to explain the rankings rage here.

Another person who didn’t read the article.

No, I actually did read it and this is exactly what it says.

Sorry you fixated on one data point because it confirms your priors and ignored the rest.

Previous poster was suggesting OP was wrong and that 60 percent are using rankings implying that was for a school. But the data showed only 8-10 percent used rankings for a school selection /ranking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.luminafoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Give-the-kids-some-credit.pdf

Apparently only 10% of students look at a specific rank while searching for colleges and the influence of US News & rankings in general is waning. Is college admissions culture shifting to prioritizing fit above rank because of admissions difficulty, shifting methodologies, etc.?

"...What did we find? Most students report considering some sources of rankings (around 6 in 10)...."

6 in 10 is 60%. Not 10%

And...they like Niche more. Great rankings there.

Nice try.

+1. And over 80% of high scorers (ACT 30+ and SAT 1400+). The 10% is only for using the rankings to identify a specific rank, and even then the number is higher for those using it to find a general range (eg, T20).

Note the percent consulting rankings is higher for those attending private high school and looking at private colleges, which probably helps to explain the rankings rage here.

Another person who didn’t read the article.

No, I actually did read it and this is exactly what it says.

Sorry you fixated on one data point because it confirms your priors and ignored the rest.

The article is crystal clear that the use of USNews rankings has decreased and 3/4 either don’t use rankings at all or don’t use it throughout the decision making process.

It’s crystal clear that 80% of high scoring kids consult rankings for various reasons at various points in the process. These are the kids who heavily populate the T50/T70 so it makes sense. And that kids who are considering private colleges are more likely to use them, which also makes sense as you don’t need to look at rankings if you are just planning to attend your state flagship. To say nothing of the parents.

I get that there is an eagerness to send the rankings on their way but the data doesn’t seem to be supporting it (yet).

[Anonymous]

I remember consulting The Insiders Guide to Colleges in 1985. It was published by Yale Daily News and written by college students. They really put down Stanford in that edition. I ended up going there anyway. So everything is/was subjective.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Only something like 11% of the US News rank is based on social mobility. But it’s a good thing if students prioritize fit above rank!

But social mobility replaced criteria like student faculty ratio and alumni giving that didn't favor large publics. Combined with an increased focus on research, it significantly raised a whole new set of schools.