Any Investment Banking or Private Equity professionals?

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Anonymous wrote:This list is suspect. BYU, UF, Penn State but no Bucknell or Colgate? Just about every grad I know from those two schools is working in IB, PE or MC.

I mean, someone has to fill the middle and back office roles.

False. The original list is cherry picked. Freeman (Bucknell's business school) is top 20 in P&Q for career outcomes. Graduates stack cheese. It's true of all the ones I know.

The graduates stack cheese in the middle office, sure. No one said middle office pay at a BB is bad. They get laughed at by the front office (also for using terms like “stack cheese”) but it’s okay. Someone needs to fill those jobs!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Private equity is killing us. Please encourage your kids to do something meaningful.

Buy a company
sell it for parts
Hundreds (or more) lose their jobs
Collect millions

Oh, but the prestige!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I promise I know what I’m talking about here:

Stanford down a notch
Yale and Princeton up to 1
Williams up to 1.5
Middlebury up to 2.5

The rest is close enough to true, I wouldn’t knock it.

Williams at 3, maybe 2.5. No way 1.5

They have some of the best per person placement in finance. Not to mention they’ve minted heavy hitters like Andreas Halvorsen and Chase Coleman - some of the most successful hedge fund managers, period. They’re only getting beaten out by the absolute best if you want to go into finance in my view.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This list is suspect. BYU, UF, Penn State but no Bucknell or Colgate? Just about every grad I know from those two schools is working in IB, PE or MC.

I mean, someone has to fill the middle and back office roles.

False. The original list is cherry picked. Freeman (Bucknell's business school) is top 20 in P&Q for career outcomes. Graduates stack cheese. It's true of all the ones I know.

This is unserious. Nobody with a goal of going into high finance should attend Bucknell.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This list is suspect. BYU, UF, Penn State but no Bucknell or Colgate? Just about every grad I know from those two schools is working in IB, PE or MC.

I mean, someone has to fill the middle and back office roles.

False. The original list is cherry picked. Freeman (Bucknell's business school) is top 20 in P&Q for career outcomes. Graduates stack cheese. It's true of all the ones I know.

This is unserious. Nobody with a goal of going into high finance should attend Bucknell.

You should tell that to my Bucknell grad buddy I vacation with and who has more money than God -- that is if you can catch his Cybertruck on the Long Island Expressway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This list is suspect. BYU, UF, Penn State but no Bucknell or Colgate? Just about every grad I know from those two schools is working in IB, PE or MC.

I mean, someone has to fill the middle and back office roles.

False. The original list is cherry picked. Freeman (Bucknell's business school) is top 20 in P&Q for career outcomes. Graduates stack cheese. It's true of all the ones I know.

This is unserious. Nobody with a goal of going into high finance should attend Bucknell.

You should tell that to my Bucknell grad buddy I vacation with and who has more money than God -- that is if you can catch his Cybertruck on the Long Island Expressway.

Lol. Of course a Bucknell grad thinks a Cybertruck is a flex.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This list is suspect. BYU, UF, Penn State but no Bucknell or Colgate? Just about every grad I know from those two schools is working in IB, PE or MC.

I mean, someone has to fill the middle and back office roles.

False. The original list is cherry picked. Freeman (Bucknell's business school) is top 20 in P&Q for career outcomes. Graduates stack cheese. It's true of all the ones I know.

This is unserious. Nobody with a goal of going into high finance should attend Bucknell.

You should tell that to my Bucknell grad buddy I vacation with and who has more money than God -- that is if you can catch his Cybertruck on the Long Island Expressway.

Lol. Of course a Bucknell grad thinks a Cybertruck is a flex.

[Anonymous]

Yale & Princeton = 1

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Move Williams up to 2.5. Move UVA up to 2, Middleburry up to 3, Move Northwestern down to 2.5, USC and UT down to 3, Northeastern down to 4, Add Gatech to 6.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Private equity is killing us. Please encourage your kids to do something meaningful.

Buy a company
sell it for parts
Hundreds (or more) lose their jobs
Collect millions

Oh, but the prestige!

Agree! If you don’t know what PE is (and lots of kids who are aiming for PE don’t). Read the book Two and Twenty. Then read the book Plunder for the other side. My kid is in a business club and tons of kids she interviews for admission say they want PE and IB but can’t explain what they are or the difference between the two. One kid even claimed to have a PE internship and did not know.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you sure you want to build this onramp to Adderall and anxiety? Speaking as a dual PE family, I would not onramp my kid into this. You know who makes a lot of money? People who build great companies (owners or high level execs) who exit to PE or public markets every 2-3 years but still have a life.

Nobody who achieves great success has "a life". The people that built those great companies worked their asses off as well.

The happiest folks in PE have a personal net worth number at which point they are happy...and then they quit. Many times you can hit a $20MM+ net worth number by your mid-to-late 30s if you are at a Blackstone/KKR/ et al, which for many people that's enough.

I find this extremely hard to believe and wonder how many people you actually know. People who are truly ambitious and successful rarely quit. Because it's not about the money. It's about the game. I know many people who are very high network (20 M+) who are working into their 70s and upwards. Business owners, real estate investors and hedge fund managers. My husband is a hedge fund manager, for him and everyone he works with, (they are 50+ years) it stopped being about the money a long time ago. I don't know anyone in VC, but the stories are everywhere. Someone sells their tech company and goes on to create one or two more. And yes, I agree with the poster who is a dual PE, there was a very significant impact on our family life.

This is why a lot of these kids groomed and pushed by parents into finance will not make it. It’s not about the game for them. They do not find it interesting and are just in it for the money. They will burn out or end up in jail when then cheat in business just like they cheated in school to be on top and get there in the first place. If your kid loves it and finds it interesting, they should do it, but I would not push that life on them. It’s ok to not be filthy rich. Honestly, it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you agree with this Tier listing for IB/PE placement
Tier 1 (Ultra-Targets) (++++)

Harvard • UPenn (Wharton) • Stanford • MIT

Tier 1.5 (Top Targets) (+++)

• UPenn (non-Wharton) • Columbia • University of Chicago (UChicago) • Duke • Dartmouth • Yale • Princeton

Tier 2 (High Targets) (++)

• Brown • Northwestern • Cornell • NYU (Stern) • UMich(Ross) • Georgetown (McDonough)

Tier 2.5 (Semi-Targets) (+)

• UVA (McIntire) • Amherst • UC Berkeley (Haas) • University of Notre Dame (Mendoza) • Emory (Goizueta) • USC (Marshall) • UT Austin (McCombs)

Tier 3 (Semi-Targets)

• Johns Hopkins • Northeastern • Vanderbilt • Washington University in St. Louis (Olin) • UCLA

Tier 4 (Semi-Targets)

• UNC (Kenan-Flagler) • CMU (Tepper) • Boston College (Carroll) • Rice • Indiana University (Kelley IB Workshop only) • Brigham Young (Goldman Sachs pipeline)

Tier 5 (Lower Semi-Targets)

• Williams College • Middlebury College • Claremont McKenna College • Texas A&M University • Penn State • University of Florida (Evercore pipeline) • University of Georgia

Tier 6 (Non-Targets but Recognizable)

• Rutgers • Fordham • University of Wisconsin-Madison • Villanova • Southern Methodist University (SMU) • University of Washington (Seattle)

https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-banking/no-bs-data-backed-target-colleges-for-ibpe

Aren’t you cute thinking their will be investment banks or jobs in that space

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stanford is too high just because kids aren’t as interested in PE/banking vs VC and tech/startups.

Other schools are probably correct if you want to go to NYC, but tiers are different if you want to work in banking/PE for Atlanta-based companies or Dallas or Houston-based, etc.

Why would the interest of Stanford kids matter? If anything it's an asset since there's less on-campus competition

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you sure you want to build this onramp to Adderall and anxiety? Speaking as a dual PE family, I would not onramp my kid into this. You know who makes a lot of money? People who build great companies (owners or high level execs) who exit to PE or public markets every 2-3 years but still have a life.

Powerball winners make even more money. Not sure what your point is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This list is suspect. BYU, UF, Penn State but no Bucknell or Colgate? Just about every grad I know from those two schools is working in IB, PE or MC.

I mean, someone has to fill the middle and back office roles.

False. The original list is cherry picked. Freeman (Bucknell's business school) is top 20 in P&Q for career outcomes. Graduates stack cheese. It's true of all the ones I know.

This is unserious. Nobody with a goal of going into high finance should attend Bucknell.

You should tell that to my Bucknell grad buddy I vacation with and who has more money than God -- that is if you can catch his Cybertruck on the Long Island Expressway.

Lol. Of course a Bucknell grad thinks a Cybertruck is a flex.

Sadly, the richest man in the world thinks the Cybertruck is a flex.