Should kids clean school bathrooms

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Anonymous wrote:It’s my job to teach chores. I don’t want my kids around harsh chemicals. I don’t want my kids associating school with stinky bathrooms. I want my kid to focus on science and math and English and learning. Not toilets.


We know, Karen. You’re raising a CEO. Not a janitor. Am I right? 🙄🙄🙄🙄

This is exactly why the kids should clean schools.


Actually my kid helps a neighbor clean schools and businesses. I don’t think it’s a skill to learn at school. I also think you’re a terrible POS for making such assumptions and putting down custodians, but that’s beside the point.


Nice try. I'm only putting you down for thinking it's beneath your kid to clean toilets.


Clearly your ignorant assumptions were terribly wrong.


Oh my bad. So you’re good with your kids pitching in at school too!?


DP. You should just give up. You’ve been caught saying janitorial staff are somehow beneath you.


Caught??? Haha no but again, nice try. You were the one saying you don’t want your kids learning meaning tasks. They are only good for math and writing.


No, that wasn’t me, that was the PP whose kid cleans schools and businesses. I do agree with that PP that kids should be learning academics at school along with respect for their school and learning chores at home. Do your kids do chores at home?


of course they do. it's part of life. and I simply don't believe that the PP's kid is cleaning for a business but she doesn't want them around harsh chemicals.


Do all cleaners use harsh chemicals? I never did when I was vacuuming and changing linens and dusting.
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Anonymous wrote:A few days ago I came across the suggestion that kids should clean their schools, including the school bathrooms, and I was interested to see what people thought of the idea, personally I think that it could be quite beneficial, for instance my daughter has an aversion to cleaning and I think that having them do it in schools could help to reduce this aversion


It's absolutely beneficial for kids to maintain the spaces that they use. Even kid athletes should clean, clear, mop the spaces that they use, up until it's unsafe. It's often that way in traditional martial arts as well as similar combat sports like bjj, boxing, and wrestling. However, the parents are the problem. They don't lead by example in public spaces nor do they tell their kids to. Almost all parents can't even put back the one folding chair they were sitting on during elementary school functions or clean up after the mess that they or their kids left.


+ a million


When does it become “unsafe”?
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Anonymous wrote:It’s my job to teach chores. I don’t want my kids around harsh chemicals. I don’t want my kids associating school with stinky bathrooms. I want my kid to focus on science and math and English and learning. Not toilets.


We know, Karen. You’re raising a CEO. Not a janitor. Am I right? 🙄🙄🙄🙄

This is exactly why the kids should clean schools.


Actually my kid helps a neighbor clean schools and businesses. I don’t think it’s a skill to learn at school. I also think you’re a terrible POS for making such assumptions and putting down custodians, but that’s beside the point.


Nice try. I'm only putting you down for thinking it's beneath your kid to clean toilets.


Clearly your ignorant assumptions were terribly wrong.


Oh my bad. So you’re good with your kids pitching in at school too!?


DP. You should just give up. You’ve been caught saying janitorial staff are somehow beneath you.


Caught??? Haha no but again, nice try. You were the one saying you don’t want your kids learning meaning tasks. They are only good for math and writing.


No, that wasn’t me, that was the PP whose kid cleans schools and businesses. I do agree with that PP that kids should be learning academics at school along with respect for their school and learning chores at home. Do your kids do chores at home?


of course they do. it's part of life. and I simply don't believe that the PP's kid is cleaning for a business but she doesn't want them around harsh chemicals.


Do all cleaners use harsh chemicals? I never did when I was vacuuming and changing linens and dusting.


No they don’t. It’s what some here use as an excuse to avoid having their kids do basic things in life. Gloves exist. So do masks.
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Anonymous wrote:A few days ago I came across the suggestion that kids should clean their schools, including the school bathrooms, and I was interested to see what people thought of the idea, personally I think that it could be quite beneficial, for instance my daughter has an aversion to cleaning and I think that having them do it in schools could help to reduce this aversion


It's absolutely beneficial for kids to maintain the spaces that they use. Even kid athletes should clean, clear, mop the spaces that they use, up until it's unsafe. It's often that way in traditional martial arts as well as similar combat sports like bjj, boxing, and wrestling. However, the parents are the problem. They don't lead by example in public spaces nor do they tell their kids to. Almost all parents can't even put back the one folding chair they were sitting on during elementary school functions or clean up after the mess that they or their kids left.


+ a million


When does it become “unsafe”?


Cleaning a toilet????????

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. In Japan schools are smaller and kids take turns cleaning the whole school. I don't think it needs to be bathrooms. It can be everything else,'classrooms, washing windows, sweeping floors, cafeteria etc. it would bring a sense of ownership and pride. But our schools are too large.


They do this in a lot of other countries. Children turn out much more grateful, respectful and grounded than the brats we are raising here.


My kids are not brats - they are grateful, respectful and grounded despite having never cleaned their school bathroom. If you want your kids to clean a school bathroom, by all means volunteer them, but don't impose it on everyone else. I want my kids to spend school time learning the curriculum.


What about other stuff they’ll have to take in HS that teaches them life skills? Too good for that too?


When did I say they were too good for cleaning? I can teach them life skills, I can't teach them math.


So then teach them and they can do it at school too. No problem.


Nope, they spend time at home doing chores and time at school learning math. Their teachers teach them math, etc. I teach them how to mop floors. Their teachers do their job and I do mine.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. In Japan schools are smaller and kids take turns cleaning the whole school. I don't think it needs to be bathrooms. It can be everything else,'classrooms, washing windows, sweeping floors, cafeteria etc. it would bring a sense of ownership and pride. But our schools are too large.


They do this in a lot of other countries. Children turn out much more grateful, respectful and grounded than the brats we are raising here.


My kids are not brats - they are grateful, respectful and grounded despite having never cleaned their school bathroom. If you want your kids to clean a school bathroom, by all means volunteer them, but don't impose it on everyone else. I want my kids to spend school time learning the curriculum.


What about other stuff they’ll have to take in HS that teaches them life skills? Too good for that too?


When did I say they were too good for cleaning? I can teach them life skills, I can't teach them math.


So then teach them and they can do it at school too. No problem.


Nope, they spend time at home doing chores and time at school learning math. Their teachers teach them math, etc. I teach them how to mop floors. Their teachers do their job and I do mine.



No you don’t. You are raising brats who are vaping in the bathroom so the rest of the kids can’t even go to pee. You are the problem.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A few days ago I came across the suggestion that kids should clean their schools, including the school bathrooms, and I was interested to see what people thought of the idea, personally I think that it could be quite beneficial, for instance my daughter has an aversion to cleaning and I think that having them do it in schools could help to reduce this aversion


It's absolutely beneficial for kids to maintain the spaces that they use. Even kid athletes should clean, clear, mop the spaces that they use, up until it's unsafe. It's often that way in traditional martial arts as well as similar combat sports like bjj, boxing, and wrestling. However, the parents are the problem. They don't lead by example in public spaces nor do they tell their kids to. Almost all parents can't even put back the one folding chair they were sitting on during elementary school functions or clean up after the mess that they or their kids left.


+ a million


When does it become “unsafe”?


Cleaning a toilet????????



Cleaning a toilet is unsafe? So you are against kids cleaning school toilets? That’s the basic Q here.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes. In Japan schools are smaller and kids take turns cleaning the whole school. I don't think it needs to be bathrooms. It can be everything else,'classrooms, washing windows, sweeping floors, cafeteria etc. it would bring a sense of ownership and pride. But our schools are too large.


They do this in a lot of other countries. Children turn out much more grateful, respectful and grounded than the brats we are raising here.


My kids are not brats - they are grateful, respectful and grounded despite having never cleaned their school bathroom. If you want your kids to clean a school bathroom, by all means volunteer them, but don't impose it on everyone else. I want my kids to spend school time learning the curriculum.


What about other stuff they’ll have to take in HS that teaches them life skills? Too good for that too?


When did I say they were too good for cleaning? I can teach them life skills, I can't teach them math.


So then teach them and they can do it at school too. No problem.


Nope, they spend time at home doing chores and time at school learning math. Their teachers teach them math, etc. I teach them how to mop floors. Their teachers do their job and I do mine.



No you don’t. You are raising brats who are vaping in the bathroom so the rest of the kids can’t even go to pee. You are the problem.


You are hilarious. If kids who do chores at home aren’t cleaning school toilets, they are delinquents who vape in the bathrooms?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A few days ago I came across the suggestion that kids should clean their schools, including the school bathrooms, and I was interested to see what people thought of the idea, personally I think that it could be quite beneficial, for instance my daughter has an aversion to cleaning and I think that having them do it in schools could help to reduce this aversion


It's absolutely beneficial for kids to maintain the spaces that they use. Even kid athletes should clean, clear, mop the spaces that they use, up until it's unsafe. It's often that way in traditional martial arts as well as similar combat sports like bjj, boxing, and wrestling. However, the parents are the problem. They don't lead by example in public spaces nor do they tell their kids to. Almost all parents can't even put back the one folding chair they were sitting on during elementary school functions or clean up after the mess that they or their kids left.


+ a million


When does it become “unsafe”?


Cleaning a toilet????????



Cleaning a toilet is unsafe? So you are against kids cleaning school toilets? That’s the basic Q here.


I thought you were saying it was unsafe. Sorry. Of course it’s perfectly safe to clean a toilet.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s my job to teach chores. I don’t want my kids around harsh chemicals. I don’t want my kids associating school with stinky bathrooms. I want my kid to focus on science and math and English and learning. Not toilets.


We know, Karen. You’re raising a CEO. Not a janitor. Am I right? 🙄🙄🙄🙄

This is exactly why the kids should clean schools.


Actually my kid helps a neighbor clean schools and businesses. I don’t think it’s a skill to learn at school. I also think you’re a terrible POS for making such assumptions and putting down custodians, but that’s beside the point.


Nice try. I'm only putting you down for thinking it's beneath your kid to clean toilets.


Clearly your ignorant assumptions were terribly wrong.


Oh my bad. So you’re good with your kids pitching in at school too!?


DP. You should just give up. You’ve been caught saying janitorial staff are somehow beneath you.


Caught??? Haha no but again, nice try. You were the one saying you don’t want your kids learning meaning tasks. They are only good for math and writing.


No, that wasn’t me, that was the PP whose kid cleans schools and businesses. I do agree with that PP that kids should be learning academics at school along with respect for their school and learning chores at home. Do your kids do chores at home?


of course they do. it's part of life. and I simply don't believe that the PP's kid is cleaning for a business but she doesn't want them around harsh chemicals.


Do all cleaners use harsh chemicals? I never did when I was vacuuming and changing linens and dusting.


No they don’t. It’s what some here use as an excuse to avoid having their kids do basic things in life. Gloves exist. So do masks.


Cleaning school toilets is a basic thing in life but OP can’t manage to get her DD to clean her own bathroom at home?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes. In Japan schools are smaller and kids take turns cleaning the whole school. I don't think it needs to be bathrooms. It can be everything else,'classrooms, washing windows, sweeping floors, cafeteria etc. it would bring a sense of ownership and pride. But our schools are too large.


They do this in a lot of other countries. Children turn out much more grateful, respectful and grounded than the brats we are raising here.


My kids are not brats - they are grateful, respectful and grounded despite having never cleaned their school bathroom. If you want your kids to clean a school bathroom, by all means volunteer them, but don't impose it on everyone else. I want my kids to spend school time learning the curriculum.


What about other stuff they’ll have to take in HS that teaches them life skills? Too good for that too?


When did I say they were too good for cleaning? I can teach them life skills, I can't teach them math.


So then teach them and they can do it at school too. No problem.


Nope, they spend time at home doing chores and time at school learning math. Their teachers teach them math, etc. I teach them how to mop floors. Their teachers do their job and I do mine.



No you don’t. You are raising brats who are vaping in the bathroom so the rest of the kids can’t even go to pee. You are the problem.


You are hilarious. If kids who do chores at home aren’t cleaning school toilets, they are delinquents who vape in the bathrooms?


Most kids in schools these days are menaces who have no respect for property. Why do you think school bathrooms are locked? If you are so clueless, visit a school.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s my job to teach chores. I don’t want my kids around harsh chemicals. I don’t want my kids associating school with stinky bathrooms. I want my kid to focus on science and math and English and learning. Not toilets.


We know, Karen. You’re raising a CEO. Not a janitor. Am I right? 🙄🙄🙄🙄

This is exactly why the kids should clean schools.


Actually my kid helps a neighbor clean schools and businesses. I don’t think it’s a skill to learn at school. I also think you’re a terrible POS for making such assumptions and putting down custodians, but that’s beside the point.


Nice try. I'm only putting you down for thinking it's beneath your kid to clean toilets.


Clearly your ignorant assumptions were terribly wrong.


Oh my bad. So you’re good with your kids pitching in at school too!?


DP. You should just give up. You’ve been caught saying janitorial staff are somehow beneath you.


Caught??? Haha no but again, nice try. You were the one saying you don’t want your kids learning meaning tasks. They are only good for math and writing.


No, that wasn’t me, that was the PP whose kid cleans schools and businesses. I do agree with that PP that kids should be learning academics at school along with respect for their school and learning chores at home. Do your kids do chores at home?


of course they do. it's part of life. and I simply don't believe that the PP's kid is cleaning for a business but she doesn't want them around harsh chemicals.


Do all cleaners use harsh chemicals? I never did when I was vacuuming and changing linens and dusting.


No they don’t. It’s what some here use as an excuse to avoid having their kids do basic things in life. Gloves exist. So do masks.


Cleaning school toilets is a basic thing in life but OP can’t manage to get her DD to clean her own bathroom at home?


You are being purposefully obtuse. It’s not just about her kid. Of course it should start at home.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes. In Japan schools are smaller and kids take turns cleaning the whole school. I don't think it needs to be bathrooms. It can be everything else,'classrooms, washing windows, sweeping floors, cafeteria etc. it would bring a sense of ownership and pride. But our schools are too large.


They do this in a lot of other countries. Children turn out much more grateful, respectful and grounded than the brats we are raising here.


My kids are not brats - they are grateful, respectful and grounded despite having never cleaned their school bathroom. If you want your kids to clean a school bathroom, by all means volunteer them, but don't impose it on everyone else. I want my kids to spend school time learning the curriculum.


What about other stuff they’ll have to take in HS that teaches them life skills? Too good for that too?


When did I say they were too good for cleaning? I can teach them life skills, I can't teach them math.


So then teach them and they can do it at school too. No problem.


Nope, they spend time at home doing chores and time at school learning math. Their teachers teach them math, etc. I teach them how to mop floors. Their teachers do their job and I do mine.



No you don’t. You are raising brats who are vaping in the bathroom so the rest of the kids can’t even go to pee. You are the problem.


You are hilarious. If kids who do chores at home aren’t cleaning school toilets, they are delinquents who vape in the bathrooms?


Most kids in schools these days are menaces who have no respect for property. Why do you think school bathrooms are locked? If you are so clueless, visit a school.


Are your kids menaces?
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Anonymous wrote:A few days ago I came across the suggestion that kids should clean their schools, including the school bathrooms, and I was interested to see what people thought of the idea, personally I think that it could be quite beneficial, for instance my daughter has an aversion to cleaning and I think that having them do it in schools could help to reduce this aversion


It's absolutely beneficial for kids to maintain the spaces that they use. Even kid athletes should clean, clear, mop the spaces that they use, up until it's unsafe. It's often that way in traditional martial arts as well as similar combat sports like bjj, boxing, and wrestling. However, the parents are the problem. They don't lead by example in public spaces nor do they tell their kids to. Almost all parents can't even put back the one folding chair they were sitting on during elementary school functions or clean up after the mess that they or their kids left.


+ a million


When does it become “unsafe”?


Cleaning a toilet????????



Unless they're unclogging an extremely clogged toilet or licking the toilet seat, cleaning a bathroom is hardly unsafe. If bathrooms are cleaned daily (or multiple times a day), you don't even need harsh chemicals most of the time. And your kid will probably inhale/swallow more fecal matter when they flush a toilet or use the hand dryer of a bathroom that kids don't help to clean on a regular basis.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes. In Japan schools are smaller and kids take turns cleaning the whole school. I don't think it needs to be bathrooms. It can be everything else,'classrooms, washing windows, sweeping floors, cafeteria etc. it would bring a sense of ownership and pride. But our schools are too large.


They do this in a lot of other countries. Children turn out much more grateful, respectful and grounded than the brats we are raising here.


My kids are not brats - they are grateful, respectful and grounded despite having never cleaned their school bathroom. If you want your kids to clean a school bathroom, by all means volunteer them, but don't impose it on everyone else. I want my kids to spend school time learning the curriculum.


What about other stuff they’ll have to take in HS that teaches them life skills? Too good for that too?


When did I say they were too good for cleaning? I can teach them life skills, I can't teach them math.


So then teach them and they can do it at school too. No problem.


Nope, they spend time at home doing chores and time at school learning math. Their teachers teach them math, etc. I teach them how to mop floors. Their teachers do their job and I do mine.



No you don’t. You are raising brats who are vaping in the bathroom so the rest of the kids can’t even go to pee. You are the problem.


You are hilarious. If kids who do chores at home aren’t cleaning school toilets, they are delinquents who vape in the bathrooms?


Most kids in schools these days are menaces who have no respect for property. Why do you think school bathrooms are locked? If you are so clueless, visit a school.


Are your kids menaces?


No. And if they were told to clean at school they’d do it without hesitation.
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