Did your agency address "fork in the road"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I hate the voting choices of Trump voters, but I don't think they all voted for this. They largely voted against immigration, inflation and probably a fair amount are annoyed by DEI and trans rights. That sucks and I disagree with them, but I don't think most of them hate federal workers.

This is important to remember. Most of the feds I know that voted for trump were single issue voters - immigration (particularly hispanics). And to be fair the democrats were in fact terrible on immigration (or at least had the appearance of being terrible). Their news bubble wasn't reporting on project 2025 or the whole fascism thing, just migrant crime.

If a Fed voted for Trump then they have no leg to stand on if they’re unhappy about all this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I hate the voting choices of Trump voters, but I don't think they all voted for this. They largely voted against immigration, inflation and probably a fair amount are annoyed by DEI and trans rights. That sucks and I disagree with them, but I don't think most of them hate federal workers.

This is important to remember. Most of the feds I know that voted for trump were single issue voters - immigration (particularly hispanics). And to be fair the democrats were in fact terrible on immigration (or at least had the appearance of being terrible). Their news bubble wasn't reporting on project 2025 or the whole fascism thing, just migrant crime.

If a Fed voted for Trump then they have no leg to stand on if they’re unhappy about all this.

Exactly. I didn’t follow the Trump campaign too closely, but I didn’t see this extreme cut as one of the main issues. Also I didn’t even suspect Elon would be this involved until a couple weeks before the election. He has no business treating federal employees like his tech workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I hate the voting choices of Trump voters, but I don't think they all voted for this. They largely voted against immigration, inflation and probably a fair amount are annoyed by DEI and trans rights. That sucks and I disagree with them, but I don't think most of them hate federal workers.

This is important to remember. Most of the feds I know that voted for trump were single issue voters - immigration (particularly hispanics). And to be fair the democrats were in fact terrible on immigration (or at least had the appearance of being terrible). Their news bubble wasn't reporting on project 2025 or the whole fascism thing, just migrant crime.

If a Fed voted for Trump then they have no leg to stand on if they’re unhappy about all this.

Exactly. I didn’t follow the Trump campaign too closely, but I didn’t see this extreme cut as one of the main issues. Also I didn’t even suspect Elon would be this involved until a couple weeks before the election. He has no business treating federal employees like his tech workers.

Democrats deport more than Republicans by far, do you are wrong on that.

[Anonymous]

We had 4 years of Trump45 plus 4 years of campaigning on a platform of overthrowing the government and purging the Deep State. No one can credibly claim that Trump represented anything but chaos and conspiracy theories and a mix of half-cocked word salad and behind the scenes puppeteers whispering in his hear.

It's not this policy of that policy. Trump and his allies in Congress ran on a campaign of burning everything down, and backing it up with 1-line insane lies about cats and space lasers, with no interest in anything resembling a coherent sentence.

Promises made, promises kept.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I hate the voting choices of Trump voters, but I don't think they all voted for this. They largely voted against immigration, inflation and probably a fair amount are annoyed by DEI and trans rights. That sucks and I disagree with them, but I don't think most of them hate federal workers.

This is important to remember. Most of the feds I know that voted for trump were single issue voters - immigration (particularly hispanics). And to be fair the democrats were in fact terrible on immigration (or at least had the appearance of being terrible). Their news bubble wasn't reporting on project 2025 or the whole fascism thing, just migrant crime.

If a Fed voted for Trump then they have no leg to stand on if they’re unhappy about all this.

Exactly. I didn’t follow the Trump campaign too closely, but I didn’t see this extreme cut as one of the main issues. Also I didn’t even suspect Elon would be this involved until a couple weeks before the election. He has no business treating federal employees like his tech workers.

The problem I have with this is the "to be fair the democrats were in fact terrible on immigration." No, they were not.

Biden deported a LOT of people. He worked cooperatively with Mexico. The dems found enough common ground to get a bipartisan bill worked out with R's on immigration. Trump and his sycophants tanked it.

Further, Trump did absolutely NOTHING his first term on immigration.

I'm tired of giving people a pass for being willfully ignorant and not learning about the issues. And instead just swallowing talking points. The folks who believe this get no pass from me.

[Anonymous]

Fork in the road isn’t a legit offer. agencies will eventually start to ignore announcements of OPM if this continues.

[Anonymous]

They said it was bullshit and to ignore it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They said it was bullshit and to ignore it

Who? Are agency HR offices saying that? I doubt it. Even if they believe it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They said it was bullshit and to ignore it

Who? Are agency HR offices saying that? I doubt it. Even if they believe it

My manager said it was illegal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They said it was bullshit and to ignore it

Who? Are agency HR offices saying that? I doubt it. Even if they believe it

That's basically what "please wait to sign until we determine what this means because we don't want it to go badly for you" means.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They said it was bullshit and to ignore it

Who? Are agency HR offices saying that? I doubt it. Even if they believe it

Yes. It’s widely accepted now it should be ignored.

Which is why we should also not be that concerned about RTO. This administration doesn’t understand how the government works and has lost credibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They said it was bullshit and to ignore it

Who? Are agency HR offices saying that? I doubt it. Even if they believe it

Yes. It’s widely accepted now it should be ignored.

Which is why we should also not be that concerned about RTO. This administration doesn’t understand how the government works and has lost credibility.

This is an optimistic take. I sure hope you are right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I hate the voting choices of Trump voters, but I don't think they all voted for this. They largely voted against immigration, inflation and probably a fair amount are annoyed by DEI and trans rights. That sucks and I disagree with them, but I don't think most of them hate federal workers.

This is important to remember. Most of the feds I know that voted for trump were single issue voters - immigration (particularly hispanics). And to be fair the democrats were in fact terrible on immigration (or at least had the appearance of being terrible). Their news bubble wasn't reporting on project 2025 or the whole fascism thing, just migrant crime.

If a Fed voted for Trump then they have no leg to stand on if they’re unhappy about all this.

Exactly. I didn’t follow the Trump campaign too closely, but I didn’t see this extreme cut as one of the main issues. Also I didn’t even suspect Elon would be this involved until a couple weeks before the election. He has no business treating federal employees like his tech workers.

The problem I have with this is the "to be fair the democrats were in fact terrible on immigration." No, they were not.

Biden deported a LOT of people. He worked cooperatively with Mexico. The dems found enough common ground to get a bipartisan bill worked out with R's on immigration. Trump and his sycophants tanked it.

Further, Trump did absolutely NOTHING his first term on immigration.

I'm tired of giving people a pass for being willfully ignorant and not learning about the issues. And instead just swallowing talking points. The folks who believe this get no pass from me.

To me it is not about giving people "a pass". But hating them doesn't help me. People voted for Trump for a variety of reasons. I don't think hating federal workers was at the top of the list for most regular Trump voters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They said it was bullshit and to ignore it

Who? Are agency HR offices saying that? I doubt it. Even if they believe it

Yes. It’s widely accepted now it should be ignored.

Which is why we should also not be that concerned about RTO. This administration doesn’t understand how the government works and has lost credibility.

+1. I’m a lot less concerned about RTO than I was a week ago, when I thought there was an actual plan this time. Of course, I have a CBA and no office to return too (leased space was given up) and no agency building with excess space, so I’m even less concerned— because Irealoze things like CBAs being enforceable contracts and not suggestions and lack of space to RTO never occurred to these clowns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They said it was bullshit and to ignore it

Who? Are agency HR offices saying that? I doubt it. Even if they believe it

My manager said this albeit in slightly more colorful language.