Ridership data demonstrate massive growth in bicycle use in DC

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Anonymous wrote:What's the average length of the rides? Note that most of the increase is almost certainly due to the newish ebikes that are available. The Bikeshare bikes are too heavy for any serious riders to pedal up and down the hills of DC.

You can't track distance on the CaBi because they aren't "smart bikes" (no GPS trackers). Keeps them cheap. So you can only do "as the crow flies" distance with their data (point to point).

However, you can see distance traveled on the GPS enabled micromobility data (rental scooters and bikes from Lime, Spin, etc.). https://public.ridereport.com/dc It shows in 2024 YTD that there's been roughly 6.2mm trips and 8.3mm miles, so a little over a mile a trip, on average.

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Anonymous wrote:What's the average length of the rides? Note that most of the increase is almost certainly due to the newish ebikes that are available. The Bikeshare bikes are too heavy for any serious riders to pedal up and down the hills of DC.

You can't track distance on the CaBi because they aren't "smart bikes" (no GPS trackers). Keeps them cheap. So you can only do "as the crow flies" distance with their data (point to point).

However, you can see distance traveled on the GPS enabled micromobility data (rental scooters and bikes from Lime, Spin, etc.). https://public.ridereport.com/dc It shows in 2024 YTD that there's been roughly 6.2mm trips and 8.3mm miles, so a little over a mile a trip, on average.

They've replaced walking?

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Anonymous wrote:A quick overview of the data is here: https://www.planetizen.com/news/2024/09/131901-dc-micromobility-use-keeps-growing?amp

These numbers come from actual trips recorded by CaBi docking stations.

There is someone on this forum who incessantly posts variations of results from the American Community Survey (ACS) in a quixotic effort to show that cycling is not becoming more popular.

This would be akin to arguing that Kamala Harris won the election on the basis of a particular combination of opinion polls that had her ahead of Donald Trump. Actually, it’s much worse than that because the designers of the ACS put very little effort into meaningfully measuring bicycle use.

If you want to believe that kind of nonsense, go ahead, but no one who has the slightest bit of knowledge of statistics or transportation patterns would read anything into the ACS numbers.

Do they have any data for how many bikeshare bikes are left blocking disabled ramps, doorways, park benches, stairs, sidewalks and other places where the last user simply dropped the bike when they were done?

How about the number of bikes that end up in the Potomac River? Or off some embankment or cliff and down into the woods in Rock Creek Park? Or off a bridge?

Any of that data available?

Any data available on car crash debris left all over the place? I see a lot of it.

Here’s the data on fatal traffic accidents this year: https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/traffic-data

DC is on track to have more road deaths than any year in the past 20 years and possibly even longer.

Scary stuff.

Are you saying that the widespread "traffic calming" experiment has not worked? Because that's what it sounds lke you're saying.

DP. It's not widespread yet. The point is for it to be widespread. Also, it's not an experiment.

It's most certainly an experiment. No city of this size in a metropolitan area of this size has simultaneously attempted to systematically decrease capacity on all its major roads, eliminate all forms of human traffic enforcement, and increase congestion citywide.

It is also most certainly widespread. The sheer number of new measures that have been implemented in the last three years is staggering. Is there even a single major road that hasn't been changed or attempted to be changed in some manner?

Your head would explode if you ever visited Bogota, New York, Paris or dozens of other cities I’m too lazy to list.

At least in terms of decreasing capacity on major roads.

Not sure about the abandonment of human enforcement. Many of us who are otherwise in favor of the changes that the city has made to its roads dislike this policy immensely.

I have been to all of them and you don't know what you're talking about. In none of those places has anything been attempted all at once city wide.

I’d be really curious to know when you last visited Paris or Manhattan.

The reductions in vehicle lanes in these cities over the past few years make DC look like Houston.

City wide. Not just the city center.

I don't know how else to explain it to you. What Bogota, Paris, and New York have done covers a much larger area than what DC has done.

They're all much bigger cities. But no, what they are doing does not cover as large a percentage of area, is not as multifaceted, and has not been done in as short a time frame.

This year alone has seen a 300% increase in enforcement cameras. That's just one layer.

This is a thread about bicycle usage. What do speed cameras have to do with that, in your mind?

That was a discussion about traffic calming. I'm sorry that you are unable to follow allong.

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Anonymous wrote:A quick overview of the data is here: https://www.planetizen.com/news/2024/09/131901-dc-micromobility-use-keeps-growing?amp

These numbers come from actual trips recorded by CaBi docking stations.

There is someone on this forum who incessantly posts variations of results from the American Community Survey (ACS) in a quixotic effort to show that cycling is not becoming more popular.

This would be akin to arguing that Kamala Harris won the election on the basis of a particular combination of opinion polls that had her ahead of Donald Trump. Actually, it’s much worse than that because the designers of the ACS put very little effort into meaningfully measuring bicycle use.

If you want to believe that kind of nonsense, go ahead, but no one who has the slightest bit of knowledge of statistics or transportation patterns would read anything into the ACS numbers.

Do they have any data for how many bikeshare bikes are left blocking disabled ramps, doorways, park benches, stairs, sidewalks and other places where the last user simply dropped the bike when they were done?

How about the number of bikes that end up in the Potomac River? Or off some embankment or cliff and down into the woods in Rock Creek Park? Or off a bridge?

Any of that data available?

Any data available on car crash debris left all over the place? I see a lot of it.

Here’s the data on fatal traffic accidents this year: https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/traffic-data

DC is on track to have more road deaths than any year in the past 20 years and possibly even longer.

Scary stuff.

Are you saying that the widespread "traffic calming" experiment has not worked? Because that's what it sounds lke you're saying.

DP. It's not widespread yet. The point is for it to be widespread. Also, it's not an experiment.

It's most certainly an experiment. No city of this size in a metropolitan area of this size has simultaneously attempted to systematically decrease capacity on all its major roads, eliminate all forms of human traffic enforcement, and increase congestion citywide.

It is also most certainly widespread. The sheer number of new measures that have been implemented in the last three years is staggering. Is there even a single major road that hasn't been changed or attempted to be changed in some manner?

Your head would explode if you ever visited Bogota, New York, Paris or dozens of other cities I’m too lazy to list.

At least in terms of decreasing capacity on major roads.

Not sure about the abandonment of human enforcement. Many of us who are otherwise in favor of the changes that the city has made to its roads dislike this policy immensely.

I have been to all of them and you don't know what you're talking about. In none of those places has anything been attempted all at once city wide.

I’d be really curious to know when you last visited Paris or Manhattan.

The reductions in vehicle lanes in these cities over the past few years make DC look like Houston.

City wide. Not just the city center.

I don't know how else to explain it to you. What Bogota, Paris, and New York have done covers a much larger area than what DC has done.

They're all much bigger cities. But no, what they are doing does not cover as large a percentage of area, is not as multifaceted, and has not been done in as short a time frame.

This year alone has seen a 300% increase in enforcement cameras. That's just one layer.

This is a thread about bicycle usage. What do speed cameras have to do with that, in your mind?

That was a discussion about traffic calming. I'm sorry that you are unable to follow allong.

I don’t think speed cameras - particularly when they are used to substitute for manual enforcement - fall under the rubric of “traffic calming” measures.

Traffic calming is more infrastructural in nature. Bike lanes, bulb-outs, HAWK signals, speed limits, and stuff like that.

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Anonymous wrote:A quick overview of the data is here: https://www.planetizen.com/news/2024/09/131901-dc-micromobility-use-keeps-growing?amp

These numbers come from actual trips recorded by CaBi docking stations.

There is someone on this forum who incessantly posts variations of results from the American Community Survey (ACS) in a quixotic effort to show that cycling is not becoming more popular.

This would be akin to arguing that Kamala Harris won the election on the basis of a particular combination of opinion polls that had her ahead of Donald Trump. Actually, it’s much worse than that because the designers of the ACS put very little effort into meaningfully measuring bicycle use.

If you want to believe that kind of nonsense, go ahead, but no one who has the slightest bit of knowledge of statistics or transportation patterns would read anything into the ACS numbers.

Do they have any data for how many bikeshare bikes are left blocking disabled ramps, doorways, park benches, stairs, sidewalks and other places where the last user simply dropped the bike when they were done?

How about the number of bikes that end up in the Potomac River? Or off some embankment or cliff and down into the woods in Rock Creek Park? Or off a bridge?

Any of that data available?

Any data available on car crash debris left all over the place? I see a lot of it.

Here’s the data on fatal traffic accidents this year: https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/traffic-data

DC is on track to have more road deaths than any year in the past 20 years and possibly even longer.

Scary stuff.

Are you saying that the widespread "traffic calming" experiment has not worked? Because that's what it sounds lke you're saying.

DP. It's not widespread yet. The point is for it to be widespread. Also, it's not an experiment.

It's most certainly an experiment. No city of this size in a metropolitan area of this size has simultaneously attempted to systematically decrease capacity on all its major roads, eliminate all forms of human traffic enforcement, and increase congestion citywide.

It is also most certainly widespread. The sheer number of new measures that have been implemented in the last three years is staggering. Is there even a single major road that hasn't been changed or attempted to be changed in some manner?

Your head would explode if you ever visited Bogota, New York, Paris or dozens of other cities I’m too lazy to list.

At least in terms of decreasing capacity on major roads.

Not sure about the abandonment of human enforcement. Many of us who are otherwise in favor of the changes that the city has made to its roads dislike this policy immensely.

I have been to all of them and you don't know what you're talking about. In none of those places has anything been attempted all at once city wide.

I’d be really curious to know when you last visited Paris or Manhattan.

The reductions in vehicle lanes in these cities over the past few years make DC look like Houston.

City wide. Not just the city center.

I don't know how else to explain it to you. What Bogota, Paris, and New York have done covers a much larger area than what DC has done.

They're all much bigger cities. But no, what they are doing does not cover as large a percentage of area, is not as multifaceted, and has not been done in as short a time frame.

This year alone has seen a 300% increase in enforcement cameras. That's just one layer.

This is a thread about bicycle usage. What do speed cameras have to do with that, in your mind?

That was a discussion about traffic calming. I'm sorry that you are unable to follow allong.

I don’t think speed cameras - particularly when they are used to substitute for manual enforcement - fall under the rubric of “traffic calming” measures.

Traffic calming is more infrastructural in nature. Bike lanes, bulb-outs, HAWK signals, speed limits, and stuff like that.

Speed cameras are also traffic calming.

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Anonymous wrote:A quick overview of the data is here: https://www.planetizen.com/news/2024/09/131901-dc-micromobility-use-keeps-growing?amp

These numbers come from actual trips recorded by CaBi docking stations.

There is someone on this forum who incessantly posts variations of results from the American Community Survey (ACS) in a quixotic effort to show that cycling is not becoming more popular.

This would be akin to arguing that Kamala Harris won the election on the basis of a particular combination of opinion polls that had her ahead of Donald Trump. Actually, it’s much worse than that because the designers of the ACS put very little effort into meaningfully measuring bicycle use.

If you want to believe that kind of nonsense, go ahead, but no one who has the slightest bit of knowledge of statistics or transportation patterns would read anything into the ACS numbers.

Do they have any data for how many bikeshare bikes are left blocking disabled ramps, doorways, park benches, stairs, sidewalks and other places where the last user simply dropped the bike when they were done?

How about the number of bikes that end up in the Potomac River? Or off some embankment or cliff and down into the woods in Rock Creek Park? Or off a bridge?

Any of that data available?

Any data available on car crash debris left all over the place? I see a lot of it.

Here’s the data on fatal traffic accidents this year: https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/traffic-data

DC is on track to have more road deaths than any year in the past 20 years and possibly even longer.

Scary stuff.

Are you saying that the widespread "traffic calming" experiment has not worked? Because that's what it sounds lke you're saying.

DP. It's not widespread yet. The point is for it to be widespread. Also, it's not an experiment.

It's most certainly an experiment. No city of this size in a metropolitan area of this size has simultaneously attempted to systematically decrease capacity on all its major roads, eliminate all forms of human traffic enforcement, and increase congestion citywide.

It is also most certainly widespread. The sheer number of new measures that have been implemented in the last three years is staggering. Is there even a single major road that hasn't been changed or attempted to be changed in some manner?

Your head would explode if you ever visited Bogota, New York, Paris or dozens of other cities I’m too lazy to list.

At least in terms of decreasing capacity on major roads.

Not sure about the abandonment of human enforcement. Many of us who are otherwise in favor of the changes that the city has made to its roads dislike this policy immensely.

I have been to all of them and you don't know what you're talking about. In none of those places has anything been attempted all at once city wide.

I’d be really curious to know when you last visited Paris or Manhattan.

The reductions in vehicle lanes in these cities over the past few years make DC look like Houston.

City wide. Not just the city center.

I don't know how else to explain it to you. What Bogota, Paris, and New York have done covers a much larger area than what DC has done.

They're all much bigger cities. But no, what they are doing does not cover as large a percentage of area, is not as multifaceted, and has not been done in as short a time frame.

This year alone has seen a 300% increase in enforcement cameras. That's just one layer.

This is a thread about bicycle usage. What do speed cameras have to do with that, in your mind?

That was a discussion about traffic calming. I'm sorry that you are unable to follow allong.

I don’t think speed cameras - particularly when they are used to substitute for manual enforcement - fall under the rubric of “traffic calming” measures.

Traffic calming is more infrastructural in nature. Bike lanes, bulb-outs, HAWK signals, speed limits, and stuff like that.

Speed cameras are also traffic calming.

No, they are not. Speed cameras cause drivers to brake suddenly before the camera and then speed up rapidly as soon as the vehicle is out of range. This is not “calming”.

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Anonymous wrote:A quick overview of the data is here: https://www.planetizen.com/news/2024/09/131901-dc-micromobility-use-keeps-growing?amp

These numbers come from actual trips recorded by CaBi docking stations.

There is someone on this forum who incessantly posts variations of results from the American Community Survey (ACS) in a quixotic effort to show that cycling is not becoming more popular.

This would be akin to arguing that Kamala Harris won the election on the basis of a particular combination of opinion polls that had her ahead of Donald Trump. Actually, it’s much worse than that because the designers of the ACS put very little effort into meaningfully measuring bicycle use.

If you want to believe that kind of nonsense, go ahead, but no one who has the slightest bit of knowledge of statistics or transportation patterns would read anything into the ACS numbers.

Do they have any data for how many bikeshare bikes are left blocking disabled ramps, doorways, park benches, stairs, sidewalks and other places where the last user simply dropped the bike when they were done?

How about the number of bikes that end up in the Potomac River? Or off some embankment or cliff and down into the woods in Rock Creek Park? Or off a bridge?

Any of that data available?

Any data available on car crash debris left all over the place? I see a lot of it.

Here’s the data on fatal traffic accidents this year: https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/traffic-data

DC is on track to have more road deaths than any year in the past 20 years and possibly even longer.

Scary stuff.

Are you saying that the widespread "traffic calming" experiment has not worked? Because that's what it sounds lke you're saying.

DP. It's not widespread yet. The point is for it to be widespread. Also, it's not an experiment.

It's most certainly an experiment. No city of this size in a metropolitan area of this size has simultaneously attempted to systematically decrease capacity on all its major roads, eliminate all forms of human traffic enforcement, and increase congestion citywide.

It is also most certainly widespread. The sheer number of new measures that have been implemented in the last three years is staggering. Is there even a single major road that hasn't been changed or attempted to be changed in some manner?

Your head would explode if you ever visited Bogota, New York, Paris or dozens of other cities I’m too lazy to list.

At least in terms of decreasing capacity on major roads.

Not sure about the abandonment of human enforcement. Many of us who are otherwise in favor of the changes that the city has made to its roads dislike this policy immensely.

I have been to all of them and you don't know what you're talking about. In none of those places has anything been attempted all at once city wide.

I’d be really curious to know when you last visited Paris or Manhattan.

The reductions in vehicle lanes in these cities over the past few years make DC look like Houston.

City wide. Not just the city center.

I don't know how else to explain it to you. What Bogota, Paris, and New York have done covers a much larger area than what DC has done.

They're all much bigger cities. But no, what they are doing does not cover as large a percentage of area, is not as multifaceted, and has not been done in as short a time frame.

This year alone has seen a 300% increase in enforcement cameras. That's just one layer.

This is a thread about bicycle usage. What do speed cameras have to do with that, in your mind?

That was a discussion about traffic calming. I'm sorry that you are unable to follow allong.

I don’t think speed cameras - particularly when they are used to substitute for manual enforcement - fall under the rubric of “traffic calming” measures.

Traffic calming is more infrastructural in nature. Bike lanes, bulb-outs, HAWK signals, speed limits, and stuff like that.

Speed cameras are also traffic calming.

No, they are not. Speed cameras cause drivers to brake suddenly before the camera and then speed up rapidly as soon as the vehicle is out of range. This is not “calming”.

They're part of DDOT's expansive "traffic calming" measures so it doesn't really matter what you think.

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Anonymous wrote:A quick overview of the data is here: https://www.planetizen.com/news/2024/09/131901-dc-micromobility-use-keeps-growing?amp

These numbers come from actual trips recorded by CaBi docking stations.

There is someone on this forum who incessantly posts variations of results from the American Community Survey (ACS) in a quixotic effort to show that cycling is not becoming more popular.

This would be akin to arguing that Kamala Harris won the election on the basis of a particular combination of opinion polls that had her ahead of Donald Trump. Actually, it’s much worse than that because the designers of the ACS put very little effort into meaningfully measuring bicycle use.

If you want to believe that kind of nonsense, go ahead, but no one who has the slightest bit of knowledge of statistics or transportation patterns would read anything into the ACS numbers.

Do they have any data for how many bikeshare bikes are left blocking disabled ramps, doorways, park benches, stairs, sidewalks and other places where the last user simply dropped the bike when they were done?

How about the number of bikes that end up in the Potomac River? Or off some embankment or cliff and down into the woods in Rock Creek Park? Or off a bridge?

Any of that data available?

Any data available on car crash debris left all over the place? I see a lot of it.

Here’s the data on fatal traffic accidents this year: https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/traffic-data

DC is on track to have more road deaths than any year in the past 20 years and possibly even longer.

Scary stuff.

Are you saying that the widespread "traffic calming" experiment has not worked? Because that's what it sounds lke you're saying.

DP. It's not widespread yet. The point is for it to be widespread. Also, it's not an experiment.

It's most certainly an experiment. No city of this size in a metropolitan area of this size has simultaneously attempted to systematically decrease capacity on all its major roads, eliminate all forms of human traffic enforcement, and increase congestion citywide.

It is also most certainly widespread. The sheer number of new measures that have been implemented in the last three years is staggering. Is there even a single major road that hasn't been changed or attempted to be changed in some manner?

Your head would explode if you ever visited Bogota, New York, Paris or dozens of other cities I’m too lazy to list.

At least in terms of decreasing capacity on major roads.

Not sure about the abandonment of human enforcement. Many of us who are otherwise in favor of the changes that the city has made to its roads dislike this policy immensely.

I have been to all of them and you don't know what you're talking about. In none of those places has anything been attempted all at once city wide.

I’d be really curious to know when you last visited Paris or Manhattan.

The reductions in vehicle lanes in these cities over the past few years make DC look like Houston.

City wide. Not just the city center.

I don't know how else to explain it to you. What Bogota, Paris, and New York have done covers a much larger area than what DC has done.

They're all much bigger cities. But no, what they are doing does not cover as large a percentage of area, is not as multifaceted, and has not been done in as short a time frame.

This year alone has seen a 300% increase in enforcement cameras. That's just one layer.

This is a thread about bicycle usage. What do speed cameras have to do with that, in your mind?

That was a discussion about traffic calming. I'm sorry that you are unable to follow allong.

I don’t think speed cameras - particularly when they are used to substitute for manual enforcement - fall under the rubric of “traffic calming” measures.

Traffic calming is more infrastructural in nature. Bike lanes, bulb-outs, HAWK signals, speed limits, and stuff like that.

Speed cameras are also traffic calming.

No, they are not. Speed cameras cause drivers to brake suddenly before the camera and then speed up rapidly as soon as the vehicle is out of range. This is not “calming”.

They're part of DDOT's expansive "traffic calming" measures so it doesn't really matter what you think.

Nope. It doesn’t matter what YOU think. You are grouping a whole bunch of random policies together and claiming that they are part of some grand “traffic calming” conspiracy. It’s the unhinged crap that is reminiscent of Q.

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Anonymous wrote:A quick overview of the data is here: https://www.planetizen.com/news/2024/09/131901-dc-micromobility-use-keeps-growing?amp

These numbers come from actual trips recorded by CaBi docking stations.

There is someone on this forum who incessantly posts variations of results from the American Community Survey (ACS) in a quixotic effort to show that cycling is not becoming more popular.

This would be akin to arguing that Kamala Harris won the election on the basis of a particular combination of opinion polls that had her ahead of Donald Trump. Actually, it’s much worse than that because the designers of the ACS put very little effort into meaningfully measuring bicycle use.

If you want to believe that kind of nonsense, go ahead, but no one who has the slightest bit of knowledge of statistics or transportation patterns would read anything into the ACS numbers.

Do they have any data for how many bikeshare bikes are left blocking disabled ramps, doorways, park benches, stairs, sidewalks and other places where the last user simply dropped the bike when they were done?

How about the number of bikes that end up in the Potomac River? Or off some embankment or cliff and down into the woods in Rock Creek Park? Or off a bridge?

Any of that data available?

Any data available on car crash debris left all over the place? I see a lot of it.

Here’s the data on fatal traffic accidents this year: https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/traffic-data

DC is on track to have more road deaths than any year in the past 20 years and possibly even longer.

Scary stuff.

Are you saying that the widespread "traffic calming" experiment has not worked? Because that's what it sounds lke you're saying.

DP. It's not widespread yet. The point is for it to be widespread. Also, it's not an experiment.

It's most certainly an experiment. No city of this size in a metropolitan area of this size has simultaneously attempted to systematically decrease capacity on all its major roads, eliminate all forms of human traffic enforcement, and increase congestion citywide.

It is also most certainly widespread. The sheer number of new measures that have been implemented in the last three years is staggering. Is there even a single major road that hasn't been changed or attempted to be changed in some manner?

Your head would explode if you ever visited Bogota, New York, Paris or dozens of other cities I’m too lazy to list.

At least in terms of decreasing capacity on major roads.

Not sure about the abandonment of human enforcement. Many of us who are otherwise in favor of the changes that the city has made to its roads dislike this policy immensely.

I have been to all of them and you don't know what you're talking about. In none of those places has anything been attempted all at once city wide.

I’d be really curious to know when you last visited Paris or Manhattan.

The reductions in vehicle lanes in these cities over the past few years make DC look like Houston.

City wide. Not just the city center.

I don't know how else to explain it to you. What Bogota, Paris, and New York have done covers a much larger area than what DC has done.

They're all much bigger cities. But no, what they are doing does not cover as large a percentage of area, is not as multifaceted, and has not been done in as short a time frame.

This year alone has seen a 300% increase in enforcement cameras. That's just one layer.

This is a thread about bicycle usage. What do speed cameras have to do with that, in your mind?

That was a discussion about traffic calming. I'm sorry that you are unable to follow allong.

I don’t think speed cameras - particularly when they are used to substitute for manual enforcement - fall under the rubric of “traffic calming” measures.

Traffic calming is more infrastructural in nature. Bike lanes, bulb-outs, HAWK signals, speed limits, and stuff like that.

Speed cameras are also traffic calming.

No, they are not. Speed cameras cause drivers to brake suddenly before the camera and then speed up rapidly as soon as the vehicle is out of range. This is not “calming”.

Speed cameras should not be the only strategy aimed at dangerous scoff-law drivers like that, of course.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a great write up of the bike use records:

https://ggwash.org/view/97337/bikeshare-beat-for-the-fifth-straight-month-cabi-breaks-ridership-record

Awesome stuff. Biking is becoming more and more popular in DC!

That's propaganda from special-interest/lobbyist group GGW. They just want to build more buildings and make bank.

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Well, the bike bros is back trying to clog our boards with their propaganda. Happens every few months or so.

Looking out the window, it is 41 degrees and raining. Biking? No thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:A quick overview of the data is here: https://www.planetizen.com/news/2024/09/131901-dc-micromobility-use-keeps-growing?amp

These numbers come from actual trips recorded by CaBi docking stations.

There is someone on this forum who incessantly posts variations of results from the American Community Survey (ACS) in a quixotic effort to show that cycling is not becoming more popular.

This would be akin to arguing that Kamala Harris won the election on the basis of a particular combination of opinion polls that had her ahead of Donald Trump. Actually, it’s much worse than that because the designers of the ACS put very little effort into meaningfully measuring bicycle use.

If you want to believe that kind of nonsense, go ahead, but no one who has the slightest bit of knowledge of statistics or transportation patterns would read anything into the ACS numbers.

Do they have any data for how many bikeshare bikes are left blocking disabled ramps, doorways, park benches, stairs, sidewalks and other places where the last user simply dropped the bike when they were done?

How about the number of bikes that end up in the Potomac River? Or off some embankment or cliff and down into the woods in Rock Creek Park? Or off a bridge?

Any of that data available?

Any data available on car crash debris left all over the place? I see a lot of it.

Here’s the data on fatal traffic accidents this year: https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/traffic-data

DC is on track to have more road deaths than any year in the past 20 years and possibly even longer.

Scary stuff.

Are you saying that the widespread "traffic calming" experiment has not worked? Because that's what it sounds lke you're saying.

DP. It's not widespread yet. The point is for it to be widespread. Also, it's not an experiment.

It's most certainly an experiment. No city of this size in a metropolitan area of this size has simultaneously attempted to systematically decrease capacity on all its major roads, eliminate all forms of human traffic enforcement, and increase congestion citywide.

It is also most certainly widespread. The sheer number of new measures that have been implemented in the last three years is staggering. Is there even a single major road that hasn't been changed or attempted to be changed in some manner?

Your head would explode if you ever visited Bogota, New York, Paris or dozens of other cities I’m too lazy to list.

At least in terms of decreasing capacity on major roads.

Not sure about the abandonment of human enforcement. Many of us who are otherwise in favor of the changes that the city has made to its roads dislike this policy immensely.

I have been to all of them and you don't know what you're talking about. In none of those places has anything been attempted all at once city wide.

I’d be really curious to know when you last visited Paris or Manhattan.

The reductions in vehicle lanes in these cities over the past few years make DC look like Houston.

City wide. Not just the city center.

I don't know how else to explain it to you. What Bogota, Paris, and New York have done covers a much larger area than what DC has done.

They're all much bigger cities. But no, what they are doing does not cover as large a percentage of area, is not as multifaceted, and has not been done in as short a time frame.

This year alone has seen a 300% increase in enforcement cameras. That's just one layer.

This is a thread about bicycle usage. What do speed cameras have to do with that, in your mind?

That was a discussion about traffic calming. I'm sorry that you are unable to follow allong.

I don’t think speed cameras - particularly when they are used to substitute for manual enforcement - fall under the rubric of “traffic calming” measures.

Traffic calming is more infrastructural in nature. Bike lanes, bulb-outs, HAWK signals, speed limits, and stuff like that.

Speed cameras are also traffic calming.

No, they are not. Speed cameras cause drivers to brake suddenly before the camera and then speed up rapidly as soon as the vehicle is out of range. This is not “calming”.

They're part of DDOT's expansive "traffic calming" measures so it doesn't really matter what you think.

Nope. It doesn’t matter what YOU think. You are grouping a whole bunch of random policies together and claiming that they are part of some grand “traffic calming” conspiracy. It’s the unhinged crap that is reminiscent of Q.

Um no and your absurd lying about it doesn't help your case. DDOT has been very explicit that all of these measures are part of their traffic calming toolkit.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, the bike bros is back trying to clog our boards with their propaganda. Happens every few months or so.

Looking out the window, it is 41 degrees and raining. Biking? No thanks.

It’s honestly boring. Not sure why people sit around all day waiting for the bat signal to jump online and lie about bicycles but those people exist.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a great write up of the bike use records:

https://ggwash.org/view/97337/bikeshare-beat-for-the-fifth-straight-month-cabi-breaks-ridership-record

Awesome stuff. Biking is becoming more and more popular in DC!

That's propaganda from special-interest/lobbyist group GGW. They just want to build more buildings and make bank.

The GGW ANC commissioner gave the game away in Marc Fisher’s column: developers want bike lanes because they’re seen as a marketing plus to attract younger renters to dense upscale development projects.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, the bike bros is back trying to clog our boards with their propaganda. Happens every few months or so.

Looking out the window, it is 41 degrees and raining. Biking? No thanks.

What’s weird is your monomania about a form of transportation. I know people like you in my neighborhood and let me tell you, we all think you are unpleasant.