Is Umich more eastern than Northwestern/UW

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Anonymous wrote:Another Michigander here and never heard of the sayings welp or ope. The only exception might be the UP. In the lower peninsula no one says these things. I wouldn’t call UofM Midwestern nice. Too many 1) east coast snots 2) ostentatious metro Detroit kids

How does one even pronounce "ope"?

Midwesterner

Rhymes with dope

[Anonymous]

People in Chicago and Detroit who like Greek food say "Opa!".

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/263750/flaming-greek-cheese-saganaki/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We toured both and also have family in the midwest

Michigan definitely feels like a big midwest university in a college town where sports are king and the university is the center of the town.

When you visit, you know that Michigan is in the midwest. Midwest nice, everyone is into sports, college town feel.


In contrast, Northwestern feels more upscale, more urban. It is in a college town in the way that George Mason is in a college town. Evanston is similar to City of Fairfax, where the college is located there, but is not the purpose of the town. NU is similar to GMU in that the kids don't go to the town for fun, fun is either on campus or taking the train to the city, where there is lots of culture, food and entertainment.

Michigan = big public university centered on sports in a midwest college town vibe

Northwestern = mid sized private university with all the trappings that come with expensive private universities in an upscale town near a major city vibe.

I look at the entire campus atthe University of Michigan. The sports campus is just a small part of the school located about 1/2 mile south of the main campus and even farther away from the medical and north campuses. You can roam the academic/ medical parts of Michigan and not even see the athletic campus. Michigan is definitely not centered on sports.

Um.

Centered means culturally centered.

Michigan is centered on sports, like any other big midwest flagship. It is 100% a midwest, sports centered university feel.

Northwestern has sports, but is not centered on sports.

But that is the problem with NU. They still spend a lot on the revenue sports, recruit heavily (Illinois and Wisconsin big rivals), relax admissions standards like at big football schools do, and otherwise impact the university. Yet year after year they are not very good. This is of course why they have fewer Olympic sports than the rest of the Big 10. So whether one likes sports or not, it is a drag on the school. A scandal last year regarding hazing didn't help. Women's lacrosse a big exception. They are spending big on a refurbished stadium, which the neighbors don't like, and are making do with a high school sized facility right now. Since football costs money, it pays to do it well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We toured both and also have family in the midwest

Michigan definitely feels like a big midwest university in a college town where sports are king and the university is the center of the town.

When you visit, you know that Michigan is in the midwest. Midwest nice, everyone is into sports, college town feel.


In contrast, Northwestern feels more upscale, more urban. It is in a college town in the way that George Mason is in a college town. Evanston is similar to City of Fairfax, where the college is located there, but is not the purpose of the town. NU is similar to GMU in that the kids don't go to the town for fun, fun is either on campus or taking the train to the city, where there is lots of culture, food and entertainment.

Michigan = big public university centered on sports in a midwest college town vibe

Northwestern = mid sized private university with all the trappings that come with expensive private universities in an upscale town near a major city vibe.

I look at the entire campus atthe University of Michigan. The sports campus is just a small part of the school located about 1/2 mile south of the main campus and even farther away from the medical and north campuses. You can roam the academic/ medical parts of Michigan and not even see the athletic campus. Michigan is definitely not centered on sports.

Um.

Centered means culturally centered.

Michigan is centered on sports, like any other big midwest flagship. It is 100% a midwest, sports centered university feel.

Northwestern has sports, but is not centered on sports.

But that is the problem with NU. They still spend a lot on the revenue sports, recruit heavily (Illinois and Wisconsin big rivals), relax admissions standards like at big football schools do, and otherwise impact the university. Yet year after year they are not very good. This is of course why they have fewer Olympic sports than the rest of the Big 10. So whether one likes sports or not, it is a drag on the school. A scandal last year regarding hazing didn't help. Women's lacrosse a big exception. They are spending big on a refurbished stadium, which the neighbors don't like, and are making do with a high school sized facility right now. Since football costs money, it pays to do it well.

Whatever. The "high school stadium" is right on the lakefront and received glowing media coverage. The stadium is not being refurbished. It is a completely new stadium. Northwestern football won its bowl game last year. Men's basketball made the NCAA Tournament again. Women's Field hockey won the NCAA title in 2021 and was runner-up last two years. Women's Lacrosse NCAA champs in 2023. Big Ten payout of $60 million.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another Michigander here and never heard of the sayings welp or ope. The only exception might be the UP. In the lower peninsula no one says these things. I wouldn’t call UofM Midwestern nice. Too many 1) east coast snots 2) ostentatious metro Detroit kids

How does one even pronounce "ope"?

Midwesterner

“Ope, there goes gravity.”
- Eminem, Midwesterner

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another Michigander here and never heard of the sayings welp or ope. The only exception might be the UP. In the lower peninsula no one says these things. I wouldn’t call UofM Midwestern nice. Too many 1) east coast snots 2) ostentatious metro Detroit kids

How does one even pronounce "ope"?

Midwesterner

“Ope, there goes gravity.”
- Eminem, Midwesterner

He's a grandpa now.
You sure anyone still says it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another Michigander here and never heard of the sayings welp or ope. The only exception might be the UP. In the lower peninsula no one says these things. I wouldn’t call UofM Midwestern nice. Too many 1) east coast snots 2) ostentatious metro Detroit kids

How does one even pronounce "ope"?

Midwesterner

“Ope, there goes gravity.”
- Eminem, Midwesterner

He's a grandpa now.
You sure anyone still says it?

He’s probably younger than the PP who claims never to have heard the word.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We toured both and also have family in the midwest

Michigan definitely feels like a big midwest university in a college town where sports are king and the university is the center of the town.

When you visit, you know that Michigan is in the midwest. Midwest nice, everyone is into sports, college town feel.


In contrast, Northwestern feels more upscale, more urban. It is in a college town in the way that George Mason is in a college town. Evanston is similar to City of Fairfax, where the college is located there, but is not the purpose of the town. NU is similar to GMU in that the kids don't go to the town for fun, fun is either on campus or taking the train to the city, where there is lots of culture, food and entertainment.

Michigan = big public university centered on sports in a midwest college town vibe

Northwestern = mid sized private university with all the trappings that come with expensive private universities in an upscale town near a major city vibe.

I look at the entire campus atthe University of Michigan. The sports campus is just a small part of the school located about 1/2 mile south of the main campus and even farther away from the medical and north campuses. You can roam the academic/ medical parts of Michigan and not even see the athletic campus. Michigan is definitely not centered on sports.

Um.

Centered means culturally centered.

Michigan is centered on sports, like any other big midwest flagship. It is 100% a midwest, sports centered university feel.

Northwestern has sports, but is not centered on sports.

But that is the problem with NU. They still spend a lot on the revenue sports, recruit heavily (Illinois and Wisconsin big rivals), relax admissions standards like at big football schools do, and otherwise impact the university. Yet year after year they are not very good. This is of course why they have fewer Olympic sports than the rest of the Big 10. So whether one likes sports or not, it is a drag on the school. A scandal last year regarding hazing didn't help. Women's lacrosse a big exception. They are spending big on a refurbished stadium, which the neighbors don't like, and are making do with a high school sized facility right now. Since football costs money, it pays to do it well.

Whatever. The "high school stadium" is right on the lakefront and received glowing media coverage. The stadium is not being refurbished. It is a completely new stadium. Northwestern football won its bowl game last year. Men's basketball made the NCAA Tournament again. Women's Field hockey won the NCAA title in 2021 and was runner-up last two years. Women's Lacrosse NCAA champs in 2023. Big Ten payout of $60 million.

NP It is definitely a high school stadium. They even have a homecoming court like high school. Northwestern is a great school but it never belonged in the big 10 and even less so now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We toured both and also have family in the midwest

Michigan definitely feels like a big midwest university in a college town where sports are king and the university is the center of the town.

When you visit, you know that Michigan is in the midwest. Midwest nice, everyone is into sports, college town feel.


In contrast, Northwestern feels more upscale, more urban. It is in a college town in the way that George Mason is in a college town. Evanston is similar to City of Fairfax, where the college is located there, but is not the purpose of the town. NU is similar to GMU in that the kids don't go to the town for fun, fun is either on campus or taking the train to the city, where there is lots of culture, food and entertainment.

Michigan = big public university centered on sports in a midwest college town vibe

Northwestern = mid sized private university with all the trappings that come with expensive private universities in an upscale town near a major city vibe.

I look at the entire campus atthe University of Michigan. The sports campus is just a small part of the school located about 1/2 mile south of the main campus and even farther away from the medical and north campuses. You can roam the academic/ medical parts of Michigan and not even see the athletic campus. Michigan is definitely not centered on sports.

Um.

Centered means culturally centered.

Michigan is centered on sports, like any other big midwest flagship. It is 100% a midwest, sports centered university feel.

Northwestern has sports, but is not centered on sports.

But that is the problem with NU. They still spend a lot on the revenue sports, recruit heavily (Illinois and Wisconsin big rivals), relax admissions standards like at big football schools do, and otherwise impact the university. Yet year after year they are not very good. This is of course why they have fewer Olympic sports than the rest of the Big 10. So whether one likes sports or not, it is a drag on the school. A scandal last year regarding hazing didn't help. Women's lacrosse a big exception. They are spending big on a refurbished stadium, which the neighbors don't like, and are making do with a high school sized facility right now. Since football costs money, it pays to do it well.

Whatever. The "high school stadium" is right on the lakefront and received glowing media coverage. The stadium is not being refurbished. It is a completely new stadium. Northwestern football won its bowl game last year. Men's basketball made the NCAA Tournament again. Women's Field hockey won the NCAA title in 2021 and was runner-up last two years. Women's Lacrosse NCAA champs in 2023. Big Ten payout of $60 million.

NP It is definitely a high school stadium. They even have a homecoming court like high school. Northwestern is a great school but it never belonged in the big 10 and even less so now.

The new $800 million stadium says you're wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We toured both and also have family in the midwest

Michigan definitely feels like a big midwest university in a college town where sports are king and the university is the center of the town.

When you visit, you know that Michigan is in the midwest. Midwest nice, everyone is into sports, college town feel.


In contrast, Northwestern feels more upscale, more urban. It is in a college town in the way that George Mason is in a college town. Evanston is similar to City of Fairfax, where the college is located there, but is not the purpose of the town. NU is similar to GMU in that the kids don't go to the town for fun, fun is either on campus or taking the train to the city, where there is lots of culture, food and entertainment.

Michigan = big public university centered on sports in a midwest college town vibe

Northwestern = mid sized private university with all the trappings that come with expensive private universities in an upscale town near a major city vibe.

I look at the entire campus atthe University of Michigan. The sports campus is just a small part of the school located about 1/2 mile south of the main campus and even farther away from the medical and north campuses. You can roam the academic/ medical parts of Michigan and not even see the athletic campus. Michigan is definitely not centered on sports.

Um.

Centered means culturally centered.

Michigan is centered on sports, like any other big midwest flagship. It is 100% a midwest, sports centered university feel.

Northwestern has sports, but is not centered on sports.

But that is the problem with NU. They still spend a lot on the revenue sports, recruit heavily (Illinois and Wisconsin big rivals), relax admissions standards like at big football schools do, and otherwise impact the university. Yet year after year they are not very good. This is of course why they have fewer Olympic sports than the rest of the Big 10. So whether one likes sports or not, it is a drag on the school. A scandal last year regarding hazing didn't help. Women's lacrosse a big exception. They are spending big on a refurbished stadium, which the neighbors don't like, and are making do with a high school sized facility right now. Since football costs money, it pays to do it well.

The temporary stadium is definitely not "making do." It is gorgeous and apparently the hottest ticket in college football this year.

https://www.wsj.com/sports/football/hottest-ticket-college-football-northwestern-af16f470?st=mxw9pB&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People in Chicago and Detroit who like Greek food say "Opa!".

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/263750/flaming-greek-cheese-saganaki/

Detroit is far more prestigious than Chicago. It is a much older city ( founded in the 1700s), is much more temperate in climate, is on eastern time with eastern connections. Ask anyone in NYC, people remember Detroit’s prestige: Detroit literally pioneered the suburb model and put the world on wheels.

Chicago is just big, but not by much historically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People in Chicago and Detroit who like Greek food say "Opa!".

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/263750/flaming-greek-cheese-saganaki/

Detroit is far more prestigious than Chicago. It is a much older city ( founded in the 1700s), is much more temperate in climate, is on eastern time with eastern connections. Ask anyone in NYC, people remember Detroit’s prestige: Detroit literally pioneered the suburb model and put the world on wheels.

Chicago is just big, but not by much historically.

NP: Lmaoooo this is unhinged. Unless it's well-crafted sarcasm, in which case I salute you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We toured both and also have family in the midwest

Michigan definitely feels like a big midwest university in a college town where sports are king and the university is the center of the town.

When you visit, you know that Michigan is in the midwest. Midwest nice, everyone is into sports, college town feel.


In contrast, Northwestern feels more upscale, more urban. It is in a college town in the way that George Mason is in a college town. Evanston is similar to City of Fairfax, where the college is located there, but is not the purpose of the town. NU is similar to GMU in that the kids don't go to the town for fun, fun is either on campus or taking the train to the city, where there is lots of culture, food and entertainment.

Michigan = big public university centered on sports in a midwest college town vibe

Northwestern = mid sized private university with all the trappings that come with expensive private universities in an upscale town near a major city vibe.

I look at the entire campus atthe University of Michigan. The sports campus is just a small part of the school located about 1/2 mile south of the main campus and even farther away from the medical and north campuses. You can roam the academic/ medical parts of Michigan and not even see the athletic campus. Michigan is definitely not centered on sports.

Um.

Centered means culturally centered.

Michigan is centered on sports, like any other big midwest flagship. It is 100% a midwest, sports centered university feel.

Northwestern has sports, but is not centered on sports.

But that is the problem with NU. They still spend a lot on the revenue sports, recruit heavily (Illinois and Wisconsin big rivals), relax admissions standards like at big football schools do, and otherwise impact the university. Yet year after year they are not very good. This is of course why they have fewer Olympic sports than the rest of the Big 10. So whether one likes sports or not, it is a drag on the school. A scandal last year regarding hazing didn't help. Women's lacrosse a big exception. They are spending big on a refurbished stadium, which the neighbors don't like, and are making do with a high school sized facility right now. Since football costs money, it pays to do it well.

The temporary stadium is definitely not "making do." It is gorgeous and apparently the hottest ticket in college football this year.

https://www.wsj.com/sports/football/hottest-ticket-college-football-northwestern-af16f470?st=mxw9pB&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Wow. That is incredible. Why didn't they just build the new stadium here?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Illinois in particular, and also Wisconsin, have a more midwestern vibe than southeastern Michigan.

I am from the Midwest, and this is patently false. Have you even been to any if these places or are you just making things up?

I lived in the Detroit area for over 50 years and travelled the Midwest extensively, Most of Wisconsin feels more like Minnesota than Michigan. There is a distinct cultural difference, including dialect and expressions, between these places that those who have lived in the DMV area for a long time would never pick up. If you/think all of the Midwest is alike, I question if you ever really explored the area at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People in Chicago and Detroit who like Greek food say "Opa!".

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/263750/flaming-greek-cheese-saganaki/

Detroit is far more prestigious than Chicago. It is a much older city ( founded in the 1700s), is much more temperate in climate, is on eastern time with eastern connections. Ask anyone in NYC, people remember Detroit’s prestige: Detroit literally pioneered the suburb model and put the world on wheels.

Chicago is just big, but not by much historically.

NP: Lmaoooo this is unhinged. Unless it's well-crafted sarcasm, in which case I salute you.

DP. It’s no joke. I’ve lived in both places. Chicago is only better if you like traffic jams & too-thick pizza.