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Agree. At MIT and the ivies with engineering, the undergrads do engineering research by the end of sophomore year at the latest. Research is essential and professors and advisors say so all the time. these schools are smallish as far as E-majors (250-500 per grad year), but much bigger than RH, and far better resourced. The professors go out of their way to connect students with research if their own labs are not taking UG. |
| Terra Haute is a shithole. Not like Gary, IN but really close. People can call it quirky or a special place but the town is literally the most depressing place in a remote location. Yes Bloomington is a drive and South Bend is a drive but then you get to the town and they are vibrant and fun. If your kid wants to go there they need to be of a certain fortitude (or on meth) because that is a long 4 years. |
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Rose is an amazing place for the kind of person who knows they want to pursue an engineering/stem education. Getting in is the easy part…staying takes work. Their labs, facilities, and resources are outstanding, class sizes small, and the kids support one another. My kid had a great four years in Terre Haute…they work very hard, but find time and places to go for fun. It is not VT, but they are not trying to be.
This came out earlier this week and speaks for itself. https://www.rose-hulman.edu/news/2025/rose-hulman-graduates-achieve-record-salaries-and-exceptional-placement-outcomes.html#:~:text=The%20Class%20of%202024%20achieved,the%20Netherlands%2C%20and%20Saudi%20Arabia. |
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“For those pursuing advanced degrees, graduates were accepted into prestigious institutions such as Princeton, Carnegie Mellon, Georgia Tech, Brown, Northwestern, and Cornell.” Guess they must be doing something at RH. |
Yes. |
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Self selecting outcomes. Those that apply to RH can get into all the top engineering schools but are choosing RH.
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For someone who has both UVA and GMU on their resume neither carry hefty weight in Silicon Valley when compared to Berkeley or UCLA. Not bashing UVA just saying every state sees it differently. I consider UVA on par with the all the UCALs. People say introducing others graduated from: Berkley, UCLA, Stanford, or MIT. But for VA schools its always: graduated with a CS Degree. All in all - I'm thankful for the GMU professors and the Co-Op program I got in DC. I still quote what the Profs taught me decades later. You are more likely employable after graduation with a few years of Co-Op. I've had friends at VA Tech that took a bit longer to find a job because they didn't have experience - they spent 4 years at a college town working at the bookstore. I spent 2 years working as a Sys Admin/Jr. Developer when I got out. As this thread is concluding to - rankings or acceptance rates don't say the whole story. GMU President - I remember said "we will not go after US News rankings" its an expensive activity. Instead the focus is on benefiting the kids and therefore became the largest University in VA. They pay the highest salaries to their professors. |
Rose has 2200 students. Not 800. Kids who get into MIT are not choosing Rose. More likely it’s kids choosing Rose over other very strong but not t10 schools. We visited Rose in March and their facilities and labs are top notch. Kid chose Rose over Mines because he liked the culture of the school more. |
We’re going to go look at both over spring break. However I think DD is going to end up at Mines. She loves snowboarding. |
Outside of sports, how is Purdue (also in Indiana) is desirable? W. Lafayette is an ugly, ugly town. |