PP above. I am an MBA who loves liberal arts subjects. I would choose History if I loved history and could effectively communicate my special area of interest. It is appealing that the grad numbers are half of the Communications numbers. That said, from what I read, there are people from this board whose kids have gotten in as LSA Undecided. The ultra-specialized "studies" degrees don't appeal to me personally because I never wanted to hyperfocus on a topic. And I do worry they could be career limiting for a generalist. The CDS numbers are for Bachelor's grads. Numbers for matriculants would be a lot fuzzier since people change majors. In general, if there are capped or direct admit majors, you can find some kind of stats somehow. But maybe not cleanly from the CDS. Regarding choice of other majors, that's so personal. I considered Psychology but ended up in Economics because I decided against pursuing an academic career and expected to go into business. History is a major that emphasizes context, taking the long view, and writing. All of those are a great counterbalance to more overt "vocational" skills. While I think anthropology and sociology are interesting topics, I feel they are slightly less practical majors. But that's my taste. I think few kids know what college level anthropology might be like, so I question if they know enough to write essays about their interest in it. The sociology majors I remember went into social work and human services careers. That is not my area, so can't comment on pros and cons. Economics is usually popular (it is the business/vocational major at schools that don't have a true major). It will be a more common choice, so probably will not help an app to stand out. At Michigan, the undergrad business major would be harder to get into (seats are limited and direct admit is ramping up this year). At some point, the gamesmanship should end. I wouldn't recommend a kid write essays about a major they have no intent to pursue. It sounds like OP's kid has about 3-4 areas of interest. I view History as very writing-focused. And OP's kid has a "studies" interest to wrap in. Seems legit enough to apply as a History major or History/Communications (major or minor). With enough AP credits, a dual major might well be possible and reduce the need to choose between. Tangent: somehow I don't see going to Stanford for Communications, even though it's possible. I would recommend applying to schools that are better known for Journalism, etc. |
What college did you go to? Check your school and come back. |
Depends on the path. Mass communications is more vocational. Technical communication is more academic. |
Technical communications is absolutely. |
I went to a liberal arts college. Communications wasn't a degree, because you just studied English or Media Studies if you were interested in that path... For what it's worth, at both of DC's schools the communications department is in the College of Communications. |
I posted earlier. If you have journalistic extracurriculars, is that not good enough “evidence” for a communications major at any of the schools mentioned (incl Stanford)? Doesn’t that make sense if combined with history or American studies as a major? Also, isn’t sociology the study of society, and would touch on things such as race, identity, gender and sexuality, inequality, immigration, social class, & institutions. Wouldn’t that be a good match with communications or interdisciplinary American studies? |
PP. I feel that Communications can be paired with many majors. The applicant should decide which of their interests to showcase. I do follow the logic shared above. Just make sure that the plan can be effectively and convincingly described. Sociology/Communications sounds like a fit for non-profit/advocacy/political communications jobs. Maybe the applicant should make a list of potential dream jobs and work back from that. I looked at Stanford's latest CDS. It has percentages instead of BA counts. With a class size of about 2,000, there were only 0.8% graduating in Communications and 2% in Ethnic/Gender Studies. Not sure how to evaluate this considering that there is also a large 15% categorized under "Interdisciplinary Studies". You'd have to know specifics about Stanford to know what classes those students are pursuing. |
There's a few subfields.
Number of Bachelor's Degrees Speech communication and rhetoric 31,737 Communication, general 10,236 Mass communication/media studies 9,120 I suspect the "mass communication/media studies" is more liberal arts while "speech communication and rhetoric" is more vocational and "general" can go either way. |
This is so helpful.
What if kid lists Comm and English? Is one easier to get into than the other? Think Stanford. |
Same as above. |
Is communications really an easier entry to T20 than other majors like English or history or sociology? |
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You can always work plus get rich if you feel like it. |
It would appear sociology is undersubscribed |
I'm sure it's not true at UPenn, where the athletes who are stuck there *are* capable of the math required for a business major or the writing and research required for a liberal arts major |
I think probably more undersubscribed than Comm |