History behind DC area racial differences

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Anonymous wrote:Are you familiar with the Civil War and which state was a member of the confederacy?

Richmond, Virginia was the seat of the confederacy and my parents vowed we would never cross over to Virginia. I grew up in MoCo and currently live in Bethesda.

After the civil war, the country reunited and all states are states in the United States. I moved here from a western state and chose based on today, not on something that is over.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you familiar with the Civil War and which state was a member of the confederacy?

Uhh.. PG county schools didn’t desegregate until the 1970s

I went to PG schools in the 70’s and they were absolutely NOT segregated. I would get beat up by my black classmates every couple weeks for being white.

Wrong. The federal courts imposed forced bussing to desegregate PG Schools in 1972. https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/library/pg/magnets/prince0902.htm

Someone who can’t do basic math shouldn’t be smug.

PP says there was racial conflict in their PG school in “the 70s.” Did you know — and I hope you’re sitting down — “the 70s” includes seven whole years ! after the desegregation rule you cite.

Meaning PP may have been involved in school fights in, sat, 1977. Which is part of “the 70s.”

— NP who was bussed across a Midwestern city from 1976-1978, following a desegregation ruling in the early “70s”

They weren’t fights.

It was just me, getting the sh!t kicked out of me, by a dozen black classmates at recess every few weeks. A “fight” would at least imply that I was able to fight back back. That was my childhood for grades 2-6 at Gaywood Elementary School in Seabrook.

The kids who would beat me up were all bussed to this school from Landover.

See? My local school was VERY integrated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP are you very young? Bowie has not been majority Black for very long at all. It was absolutely the center of white flight out of DC and in the 70s and 80s was basically all white. Early 2000s it started to diversify.

It started to diversify because black people started moving out to Bowie to get away from latinos who were moving into inside-the-beltway areas of PG where blacks had lived since the 70’s-80’s.

There’s such a thing as “black flight”, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you familiar with the Civil War and which state was a member of the confederacy?

Richmond, Virginia was the seat of the confederacy and my parents vowed we would never cross over to Virginia. I grew up in MoCo and currently live in Bethesda.

So you live in a former slave state and the Whitest area in the region. Congrats on your bonafides.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you familiar with the Civil War and which state was a member of the confederacy?

Uhh.. PG county schools didn’t desegregate until the 1970s

I went to PG schools in the 70’s and they were absolutely NOT segregated. I would get beat up by my black classmates every couple weeks for being white.

Wrong. The federal courts imposed forced bussing to desegregate PG Schools in 1972. https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/library/pg/magnets/prince0902.htm

Someone who can’t do basic math shouldn’t be smug.

PP says there was racial conflict in their PG school in “the 70s.” Did you know — and I hope you’re sitting down — “the 70s” includes seven whole years ! after the desegregation rule you cite.

Meaning PP may have been involved in school fights in, sat, 1977. Which is part of “the 70s.”
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Lol. Your point is pedantic and you seem to miss the point. During the 1970s, PG schools was segregated and then underwent a process of desecration. That process took decades hence why federal courts wouldn’t end there forced busing mandate for years and years.

Given your lack of comprehension, I’m confident that you graduated from PG schools back in the day. And I’m glad my parents sprung for DeMatha back in the 1980s.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Jewish community in Rollingwood and Chevy Chase DC was due to the rest of the surrounding area having racial covenants.

Is this actually true? I joked when we put a mezuzah up on our house in AU Park that we were probably the first Jews to live here because of restrictive covenants, but then I read somewhere that actually most of upper NW didn't have any formal restrictions against Jews buying the houses — just informal "gentleman's agreement" types.

There were both formal covenants and informal gentlemens agreements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you familiar with the Civil War and which state was a member of the confederacy?

Richmond, Virginia was the seat of the confederacy and my parents vowed we would never cross over to Virginia. I grew up in MoCo and currently live in Bethesda.

After the civil war, the country reunited and all states are states in the United States. I moved here from a western state and chose based on today, not on something that is over.

Not really.

We are still fighting the Civil War today.

https://time.com/6174297/america-divided-civil-war/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you familiar with the Civil War and which state was a member of the confederacy?

Richmond, Virginia was the seat of the confederacy and my parents vowed we would never cross over to Virginia. I grew up in MoCo and currently live in Bethesda.

After the civil war, the country reunited and all states are states in the United States. I moved here from a western state and chose based on today, not on something that is over.

Not really.

We are still fighting the Civil War today.

https://time.com/6174297/america-divided-civil-war/

No, we aren't. In your bubble, you might be. But Americans aren't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you familiar with the Civil War and which state was a member of the confederacy?

Richmond, Virginia was the seat of the confederacy and my parents vowed we would never cross over to Virginia. I grew up in MoCo and currently live in Bethesda.

After the civil war, the country reunited and all states are states in the United States. I moved here from a western state and chose based on today, not on something that is over.

Not really.

We are still fighting the Civil War today.

https://time.com/6174297/america-divided-civil-war/

No, we aren't. In your bubble, you might be. But Americans aren't.

The last time the country was as divided as it is now was during the Civil War.

Fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you familiar with the Civil War and which state was a member of the confederacy?

Richmond, Virginia was the seat of the confederacy and my parents vowed we would never cross over to Virginia. I grew up in MoCo and currently live in Bethesda.

After the civil war, the country reunited and all states are states in the United States. I moved here from a western state and chose based on today, not on something that is over.

Not really.

We are still fighting the Civil War today.

https://time.com/6174297/america-divided-civil-war/

No, we aren't. In your bubble, you might be. But Americans aren't.

The last time the country was as divided as it is now was during the Civil War.

Fact.

We are polarized and divided right now, yes. But we certainly are not still fighting the Civil War. We are not divided on any of those issues.

SMH

[Anonymous]

The Washington suburbs are way more diverse than the District. DC politicians still take a very retro, simplistic view of diversity as being Black v. White.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some of you should catch the "Undesign the Red Line" exhibit that is at the Cleveland Park library for another week or so.

Caveat emptor: The exhibit’s local “content” is largely spin from Trump’s national pollster who now shills for the DC development industry.

[Anonymous]

PG was white and considered racist esp the all white police (by dc blacks). That is why they all moved to escape blacks in the 80s mainly to anne arundal or howard. those who couldnt afford to leave went to trailers. anything to escape blacks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you familiar with the Civil War and which state was a member of the confederacy?

Richmond, Virginia was the seat of the confederacy and my parents vowed we would never cross over to Virginia. I grew up in MoCo and currently live in Bethesda.

After the civil war, the country reunited and all states are states in the United States. I moved here from a western state and chose based on today, not on something that is over.

Not really.

We are still fighting the Civil War today.

https://time.com/6174297/america-divided-civil-war/

No, we aren't. In your bubble, you might be. But Americans aren't.

The last time the country was as divided as it is now was during the Civil War.

Fact.

False.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It was deeded in homes not to sell to Blacks.

False

Huh? Tons of homes in Nova had racial covenants that said they couldn’t be sold to blacks or Jews.

https://marymount.edu/blog/researchers-unveil-findings-on-history-of-housing-discrimination-in-northern-virginia/



To be fair, the same thing was happening in parts of DC and MD too. My house in DC had racial covenants placed on it by the developer when it was originally built and sold in the 1920s.

That’s not exactly “tons” and doesn’t explain why it was 90%+ white just a couple decades ago.

A lot of NoVa was still empty farmland a few decades ago. It was the last part of the DMV to develop density and a small number of land owners controlled a lot of land (thus preventing earlier development). Black and Jewish communities were already settled in their long-standing communities in MD and DC when NoVa development really took off.

It has to do with history and time. For centuries, black people were trying to get out out Virginia and go north. That doesn't suddenly change when NoVa is finally forced to de facto de-segregate in the 1970s.

There’s a place called Alexandria and historic Black neighborhoods in Fairfax. The story that you’re telling is too simplistic.

This is factually incorrect. The demographics for Fairfax and MOCO were very similar in 1970. Fairfax was around 95.5% white and 3.5% Black. Montgomery County was around 94.5% white and around 4% Black. Fast forward to today and Fairfax is 47% white, 10% Black, 16% Hispanic, 20% Asian, 7% multiracial & other groups. MOCO is 41% white, 18% Black, 19% Hispanic, 7% multiracial & other groups. The starting conditions for these two counties (in 1970) explains almost none of the differences in demographics today. Many Other factors (including random chance) and the geographical concentration of culturally specific amenities explain why demographics have diverged since then.

Montgomery County creating the Ag Reserve and blocking SFH production has a lot to do with why working class immigrants chose Virginia, they could buy a house. And why relatively poorer Black families moved to Montgomery County, cheaper rental housing.

Montgomery County created the Ag Reserve in 1980. A hell of a lot of SFHs have been built in Montgomery County since 1980. So I have no idea what you're talking about.

Compared to Virginia not really.