Ozempic health concern

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OP- your concerns are valid.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you needing to lose 20 pounds should try eating beans for breakfast- a cup is ideal but at least a half cup. Beans are nature’s Ozempic.

Ideally you would ditch all the junky food products and the unhealthy foods and focus on plant based and healthy fats, too - that’s for overall health and longevity.

But definitely beans in the morning will shut off your food noise and dial down appetite. I’ve been eating beans for weeks now and I can’t even eat dinner anymore, I just have breakfast and lunch and maybe a small salad or some nuts or fruit in the early evening.

Fiber is really miraculous, and very good for you!

How do you prepare the beans?

I eat them refried - vegan. I make a batch once a week and use black beans because they are overall the most nutrient dense/rich of the beans. I add onion, garlic and spices.

In a pinch when I haven’t food prepped I use Goya refried vegan black beans and I add some more garlic and spices because I like a lot of flavor.

You can eat them all kinds of ways for breakfast - mix in eggs, beans on a whole grain seeded toast, bean burrito, etc.

The more you can front load fiber into your morning meal, the more sated you will feel all day and it will really change your appetite and quiet the food noise. It really works!

Thanks, so Goya is canned black beans correct?

Yes the Goya refried black beans are canned. They are pretty yummy but higher in sodium than when I make my own home cooked batch, so I only use them in a pinch.

If your diet is relatively low in sodium (mine is on account of being mostly whole fresh food and plant based, zero ultra processed stuff) the sodium from canned beans won’t be a big deal.

Please share your cooking method for beans. I've never had success cooking beans from dried beans. They either don't get soft or get too soft and fall apart.

Not the pp but I wanted to say the Instant Pot is wonderful for cooking dried beans perfectly in about 30 minutes. I follow a cooking guide for the exact time and amount of water. Honestly can’t stand canned beans anymore. I cook a pound at a time and then freeze into smaller quantities.

[Anonymous]

20lbs is a lot for someone short.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you needing to lose 20 pounds should try eating beans for breakfast- a cup is ideal but at least a half cup. Beans are nature’s Ozempic.

Ideally you would ditch all the junky food products and the unhealthy foods and focus on plant based and healthy fats, too - that’s for overall health and longevity.

But definitely beans in the morning will shut off your food noise and dial down appetite. I’ve been eating beans for weeks now and I can’t even eat dinner anymore, I just have breakfast and lunch and maybe a small salad or some nuts or fruit in the early evening.

Fiber is really miraculous, and very good for you!

How do you prepare the beans?

I eat them refried - vegan. I make a batch once a week and use black beans because they are overall the most nutrient dense/rich of the beans. I add onion, garlic and spices.

In a pinch when I haven’t food prepped I use Goya refried vegan black beans and I add some more garlic and spices because I like a lot of flavor.

You can eat them all kinds of ways for breakfast - mix in eggs, beans on a whole grain seeded toast, bean burrito, etc.

The more you can front load fiber into your morning meal, the more sated you will feel all day and it will really change your appetite and quiet the food noise. It really works!

Thanks, so Goya is canned black beans correct?

Yes the Goya refried black beans are canned. They are pretty yummy but higher in sodium than when I make my own home cooked batch, so I only use them in a pinch.

If your diet is relatively low in sodium (mine is on account of being mostly whole fresh food and plant based, zero ultra processed stuff) the sodium from canned beans won’t be a big deal.

Please share your cooking method for beans. I've never had success cooking beans from dried beans. They either don't get soft or get too soft and fall apart.

Not the pp but I wanted to say the Instant Pot is wonderful for cooking dried beans perfectly in about 30 minutes. I follow a cooking guide for the exact time and amount of water. Honestly can’t stand canned beans anymore. I cook a pound at a time and then freeze into smaller quantities.

I’m doing something wrong. My beans still have a tough outer casing, that doesn’t seem to soften like a canned bean.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t Oprah just have shi$ coming from both ends recently and hospitalized? Gayle went in and in about it.

Yeah, but that was a "stomach bug."

Here’s a link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2024/06/11/oprah-winfrey-gastroenteritisis-emergency-room/74065618007/

This happened to both DH (Mountjaro) and me (Wegovy) separately after many months of being on the drugs. We knew ir wasn’t food poisoning or a stomach bug or covid because of tests and the fact that no one around us was sick. It was terrible and I am not willing to continue Wegovy but DH might go back down to the lowest dose and try again. Projectile vomiting, nonstop diarrhea, dehydration, and headaches. I threw up so hard that my ribs ached for days, I broke a blood vessel in my eye and I was wiped out for a week. It’s the semaglutide.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you needing to lose 20 pounds should try eating beans for breakfast- a cup is ideal but at least a half cup. Beans are nature’s Ozempic.

Ideally you would ditch all the junky food products and the unhealthy foods and focus on plant based and healthy fats, too - that’s for overall health and longevity.

But definitely beans in the morning will shut off your food noise and dial down appetite. I’ve been eating beans for weeks now and I can’t even eat dinner anymore, I just have breakfast and lunch and maybe a small salad or some nuts or fruit in the early evening.

Fiber is really miraculous, and very good for you!

How do you prepare the beans?

I eat them refried - vegan. I make a batch once a week and use black beans because they are overall the most nutrient dense/rich of the beans. I add onion, garlic and spices.

In a pinch when I haven’t food prepped I use Goya refried vegan black beans and I add some more garlic and spices because I like a lot of flavor.

You can eat them all kinds of ways for breakfast - mix in eggs, beans on a whole grain seeded toast, bean burrito, etc.

The more you can front load fiber into your morning meal, the more sated you will feel all day and it will really change your appetite and quiet the food noise. It really works!

Thanks, so Goya is canned black beans correct?

Yes the Goya refried black beans are canned. They are pretty yummy but higher in sodium than when I make my own home cooked batch, so I only use them in a pinch.

If your diet is relatively low in sodium (mine is on account of being mostly whole fresh food and plant based, zero ultra processed stuff) the sodium from canned beans won’t be a big deal.

Please share your cooking method for beans. I've never had success cooking beans from dried beans. They either don't get soft or get too soft and fall apart.

Not the pp but I wanted to say the Instant Pot is wonderful for cooking dried beans perfectly in about 30 minutes. I follow a cooking guide for the exact time and amount of water. Honestly can’t stand canned beans anymore. I cook a pound at a time and then freeze into smaller quantities.

I’m doing something wrong. My beans still have a tough outer casing, that doesn’t seem to soften like a canned bean.

Are you using tap water to soak and/or cook your beans?

If yes, don’t. Minerals and chemicals in tap water can harden the coat of the bean and no amount of cooking will then soften it. Use distilled or RO filtered or other filtered water.

Also depending on your recipe, if you are adding salt or acid early in the cooking process that will also prevent the bean coat softening.

Or maybe your beans are too old - stale beans sometimes won’t soften.

[Anonymous]

I do health policy/drug policy for a living and am deeply, deeply opposed to use of these meds for vanity weight loss for about 10 million reasons. And 20lbs is vanity weight loss.

However, I think its dangerous to assume correlation between a rare liver cancer and use of these meds based on anecdote. I think its dangerous to do this for any drug. Its the kind of behavior that has led to severe distrust in medicine and science that is going to really hurt us from a public health perspective in the future.

There is also an over-reliance on the idea of family history meaning you won't get cancer. Most cancers are related to environmental factors and happenstance rather than genetics. Certainly not in every case, but in the overwhelming number of cases.

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my father in law has a very rare form of liver cancer in his bile ducts. he’s not in ozempic. He is on blood pressure meds. do you all think is BP meds caused this rare form of cancer?

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Anonymous wrote:I do health policy/drug policy for a living and am deeply, deeply opposed to use of these meds for vanity weight loss for about 10 million reasons. And 20lbs is vanity weight loss.

However, I think its dangerous to assume correlation between a rare liver cancer and use of these meds based on anecdote. I think its dangerous to do this for any drug. Its the kind of behavior that has led to severe distrust in medicine and science that is going to really hurt us from a public health perspective in the future.

There is also an over-reliance on the idea of family history meaning you won't get cancer. Most cancers are related to environmental factors and happenstance rather than genetics. Certainly not in every case, but in the overwhelming number of cases.

yuuup, I have breast cancer and there is no cancer in my family. I mean NONE. None of any sort. Genetic mutations happen. it sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean the link you posted says "This systematic review and meta-analysis of RCTs found that use of GLP-1 RAs was associated with increased risk of gallbladder or biliary diseases, especially when used at higher doses, for longer durations, and for weight loss."
It doesn't talk about biliary cancer specifically though and there's no evidence I know associating GLP1s to cancer.

Primary bile duct cancer cholangiocarcinoma is really rare in general especially for her age.

I'm not a naysayer, but I am a skeptic. Isn't it a bit early to know the bolded line?

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Anonymous wrote:I mean the link you posted says "This systematic review and meta-analysis of RCTs found that use of GLP-1 RAs was associated with increased risk of gallbladder or biliary diseases, especially when used at higher doses, for longer durations, and for weight loss."
It doesn't talk about biliary cancer specifically though and there's no evidence I know associating GLP1s to cancer.

Primary bile duct cancer cholangiocarcinoma is really rare in general especially for her age.

I'm not a naysayer, but I am a skeptic. Isn't it a bit early to know the bolded line?

How could it be early to claim there is no evidence?

There either is evidence or there isn’t. That can change of course, but that’s how evidence works.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean the link you posted says "This systematic review and meta-analysis of RCTs found that use of GLP-1 RAs was associated with increased risk of gallbladder or biliary diseases, especially when used at higher doses, for longer durations, and for weight loss."
It doesn't talk about biliary cancer specifically though and there's no evidence I know associating GLP1s to cancer.

Primary bile duct cancer cholangiocarcinoma is really rare in general especially for her age.

I'm not a naysayer, but I am a skeptic. Isn't it a bit early to know the bolded line?

How could it be early to claim there is no evidence?

There either is evidence or there isn’t. That can change of course, but that’s how evidence works.

DP. We're conducting a mass experiment with millions taking these drugs since they were introduced just a few years ago. Evidence takes time.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean the link you posted says "This systematic review and meta-analysis of RCTs found that use of GLP-1 RAs was associated with increased risk of gallbladder or biliary diseases, especially when used at higher doses, for longer durations, and for weight loss."
It doesn't talk about biliary cancer specifically though and there's no evidence I know associating GLP1s to cancer.

Primary bile duct cancer cholangiocarcinoma is really rare in general especially for her age.

I'm not a naysayer, but I am a skeptic. Isn't it a bit early to know the bolded line?

How could it be early to claim there is no evidence?

There either is evidence or there isn’t. That can change of course, but that’s how evidence works.

DP. We're conducting a mass experiment with millions taking these drugs since they were introduced just a few years ago. Evidence takes time.

Phase 2 clinical trials for semaglutides started in 2008.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you needing to lose 20 pounds should try eating beans for breakfast- a cup is ideal but at least a half cup. Beans are nature’s Ozempic.

Ideally you would ditch all the junky food products and the unhealthy foods and focus on plant based and healthy fats, too - that’s for overall health and longevity.

But definitely beans in the morning will shut off your food noise and dial down appetite. I’ve been eating beans for weeks now and I can’t even eat dinner anymore, I just have breakfast and lunch and maybe a small salad or some nuts or fruit in the early evening.

Fiber is really miraculous, and very good for you!

How do you prepare the beans?

I eat them refried - vegan. I make a batch once a week and use black beans because they are overall the most nutrient dense/rich of the beans. I add onion, garlic and spices.

In a pinch when I haven’t food prepped I use Goya refried vegan black beans and I add some more garlic and spices because I like a lot of flavor.

You can eat them all kinds of ways for breakfast - mix in eggs, beans on a whole grain seeded toast, bean burrito, etc.

The more you can front load fiber into your morning meal, the more sated you will feel all day and it will really change your appetite and quiet the food noise. It really works!

Thanks, so Goya is canned black beans correct?

Yes the Goya refried black beans are canned. They are pretty yummy but higher in sodium than when I make my own home cooked batch, so I only use them in a pinch.

If your diet is relatively low in sodium (mine is on account of being mostly whole fresh food and plant based, zero ultra processed stuff) the sodium from canned beans won’t be a big deal.

Please share your cooking method for beans. I've never had success cooking beans from dried beans. They either don't get soft or get too soft and fall apart.

Not the pp but I wanted to say the Instant Pot is wonderful for cooking dried beans perfectly in about 30 minutes. I follow a cooking guide for the exact time and amount of water. Honestly can’t stand canned beans anymore. I cook a pound at a time and then freeze into smaller quantities.

I’m doing something wrong. My beans still have a tough outer casing, that doesn’t seem to soften like a canned bean.

See below for easy method:

I only make black beans and cook them from scratch with dried beans.

I wash my beans and then they go into a dutch oven - I fill the pot with tap water until the beans are fully submerged and covered by water, preferably an inch at minimum but I prefer adding more water. 3 cups dry beans to 9 cups water

I add in smashed garlic cloves, half a white onion and a jalapeño. Then I simmer on low for 2.5-3 hours as I continually check the water to ensure the beans remain fully submerged. Add water as needed.

Don’t season until the beans are done cooking!

[Anonymous]

Being overweight can also give you cancer, along with knee problems, diabetes, heart problems, bad skin, decreased fitness, etc.