"Only taught by professors"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are there so many mothers at these WASPs?

A shocking amount given how few DC students get into them. Maybe the forum is getting more national looks?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you don't already know, lots of top colleges, at least I know at Harvard and Stanford, are using visiting professors, at a pay of $3,000 per course a semester (from data a few years but less than 10 years back, so don't know what's the number now), and non-tenure track professors to teach undergrads. There are also very few tenure-track slots in those universities.

Visiting assistant professors make a decentish salary, around $60-80K at DC's college. I think you're thinking of adjunct/lecturer faculty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you don't already know, lots of top colleges, at least I know at Harvard and Stanford, are using visiting professors, at a pay of $3,000 per course a semester (from data a few years but less than 10 years back, so don't know what's the number now), and non-tenure track professors to teach undergrads. There are also very few tenure-track slots in those universities.

You're describing adjuncts. All universities have adjuncts (some go by other names, and all the naming systems are different depending on the school).

A department of ALL adjuncts is not great. But adjuncts are also essential because they are connected to practice in ways that full time academics are not, are not longer, or never were. In fact, if you're thinking about professors who can help with jobs, adjuncts are often THE best resource.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you don't already know, lots of top colleges, at least I know at Harvard and Stanford, are using visiting professors, at a pay of $3,000 per course a semester (from data a few years but less than 10 years back, so don't know what's the number now), and non-tenure track professors to teach undergrads. There are also very few tenure-track slots in those universities.

You're describing adjuncts. All universities have adjuncts (some go by other names, and all the naming systems are different depending on the school).

A department of ALL adjuncts is not great. But adjuncts are also essential because they are connected to practice in ways that full time academics are not, are not longer, or never were. In fact, if you're thinking about professors who can help with jobs, adjuncts are often THE best resource.

The experience of adjuncts will vary greatly by field. A CS billionaire choosing to teach a class for fun after early retirement might be a great resource. But in my humanities field, adjuncts can't necessarily help with jobs. Yes, they may be amazing professors, but they're also probably working themselves to the bone, driving back and forth to multiple campuses (with no office at any of them), trying to remain in their field.

Maybe the otherwise employed and independently wealthy adjuncts should have another title (or maybe they should just volunteer?).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's a wasp in this context?

Not OP but Williams/Amherst/Swathmore/Pomona

And OP is missing the point, which is that students aren’t being taught by 25-year-old grad students.

Never heard of that acronym

Me either and my DS actually graduated from one of those schools.

[Anonymous]

I don't associate the liberal arts colleges together. Sure Amherst and Williams, but Pomona is very different from Williams is very different from Swarthmore. They don't have the same shared experience/alum culture like the ivies, who have an established ivy network with one another.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A WASP? Really? You’re insufferable.

It’s an acronym that’s been deployed for decades. No one calls HPYSM parents snobs. It’s just a classification.

Sounds like s BACKronym, a random collection of schools thrown together to make up a clever sounding word.

Yes... a random collection of schools....Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona. Never been put together or discussed before, just random. Not like they could possibly be the liberal arts colleges with the most money, resources, and lowest acceptance rates or anything...No that's silly!

Still random. Why not throw in Wesleyan, Bowdoin, Carleton and Middlebury?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A WASP? Really? You’re insufferable.

It’s an acronym that’s been deployed for decades. No one calls HPYSM parents snobs. It’s just a classification.

Sounds like s BACKronym, a random collection of schools thrown together to make up a clever sounding word.

Yes... a random collection of schools....Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona. Never been put together or discussed before, just random. Not like they could possibly be the liberal arts colleges with the most money, resources, and lowest acceptance rates or anything...No that's silly!

Still random. Why not throw in Wesleyan, Bowdoin, Carleton and Middlebury?

If I had to hazard a guess, none of them are the top 4 liberal arts colleges in recent memory. It seems like a pretty obvious association, not sure what the hubbub is about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stumbled upon this just now. Rising sophomore at a WASP. My professors in the past year were as follows:

Fall:
- Senior Lecturer (tenured teaching-only faculty), appointed in 2015
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2019
- Assistant Professor, appointed in 2022
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2012

Spring:
- Assistant Professor, appointed in 2023
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2013
- Professor on endowed chair, appointed in 2013
- Senior Lecturer, appointed pre-2009

Just for kicks, here's my schedule for the upcoming semester:

- Visiting Assistant Professor, appointed in 2023
- Assistant Professor, appointed in 2023
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2007
- Professor on endowed chair, appointed in 2004

That's 1 of 12. I am a double major in two departments known for being severely overenrolled. Is this good enough for you?

So just one real professor?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you don't already know, lots of top colleges, at least I know at Harvard and Stanford, are using visiting professors, at a pay of $3,000 per course a semester (from data a few years but less than 10 years back, so don't know what's the number now), and non-tenure track professors to teach undergrads. There are also very few tenure-track slots in those universities.

You're describing adjuncts. All universities have adjuncts (some go by other names, and all the naming systems are different depending on the school).

A department of ALL adjuncts is not great. But adjuncts are also essential because they are connected to practice in ways that full time academics are not, are not longer, or never were. In fact, if you're thinking about professors who can help with jobs, adjuncts are often THE best resource.

Agree.

Grad students can also be great instructors for break-out sections & labs. Grad students--typically in STEM subjects--often do not speak English well/clearly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stumbled upon this just now. Rising sophomore at a WASP. My professors in the past year were as follows:

Fall:
- Senior Lecturer (tenured teaching-only faculty), appointed in 2015
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2019
- Assistant Professor, appointed in 2022
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2012

Spring:
- Assistant Professor, appointed in 2023
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2013
- Professor on endowed chair, appointed in 2013
- Senior Lecturer, appointed pre-2009

Just for kicks, here's my schedule for the upcoming semester:

- Visiting Assistant Professor, appointed in 2023
- Assistant Professor, appointed in 2023
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2007
- Professor on endowed chair, appointed in 2004

That's 1 of 12. I am a double major in two departments known for being severely overenrolled. Is this good enough for you?

So just one real professor?

Assistant professors are tenure-track.

Associate professors are tenured.

Senior lecturers are permanent teaching faculty. PP described as tenured, so equivalent of associate.

Endowed are tenured.

So…all “real.”

Visiting could mean anything. At Williams, one of the regular visiting professors in the physics department is a cosmologist who has been instrumental at CERN, directed the Copernicus Astronomical Center in Warsaw, and is part of the permanent astronomy teaching faculty at the university of Warsaw. That’s a pretty good get for a small college in western Mass.

Don’t quite understand the tenor of this thread. Feels like a few people are looking for the worst possible interpretation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stumbled upon this just now. Rising sophomore at a WASP. My professors in the past year were as follows:

Fall:
- Senior Lecturer (tenured teaching-only faculty), appointed in 2015
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2019
- Assistant Professor, appointed in 2022
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2012

Spring:
- Assistant Professor, appointed in 2023
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2013
- Professor on endowed chair, appointed in 2013
- Senior Lecturer, appointed pre-2009

Just for kicks, here's my schedule for the upcoming semester:

- Visiting Assistant Professor, appointed in 2023
- Assistant Professor, appointed in 2023
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2007
- Professor on endowed chair, appointed in 2004

That's 1 of 12. I am a double major in two departments known for being severely overenrolled. Is this good enough for you?

So just one real professor?

Assistant professors are tenure-track.

Associate professors are tenured.

Senior lecturers are permanent teaching faculty. PP described as tenured, so equivalent of associate.

Endowed are tenured.

So…all “real.”

Visiting could mean anything. At Williams, one of the regular visiting professors in the physics department is a cosmologist who has been instrumental at CERN, directed the Copernicus Astronomical Center in Warsaw, and is part of the permanent astronomy teaching faculty at the university of Warsaw. That’s a pretty good get for a small college in western Mass.

Don’t quite understand the tenor of this thread. Feels like a few people are looking for the worst possible interpretation.

Pretty sure OP is a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stumbled upon this just now. Rising sophomore at a WASP. My professors in the past year were as follows:

Fall:
- Senior Lecturer (tenured teaching-only faculty), appointed in 2015
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2019
- Assistant Professor, appointed in 2022
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2012

Spring:
- Assistant Professor, appointed in 2023
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2013
- Professor on endowed chair, appointed in 2013
- Senior Lecturer, appointed pre-2009

Just for kicks, here's my schedule for the upcoming semester:

- Visiting Assistant Professor, appointed in 2023
- Assistant Professor, appointed in 2023
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2007
- Professor on endowed chair, appointed in 2004

That's 1 of 12. I am a double major in two departments known for being severely overenrolled. Is this good enough for you?

So just one real professor?

Assistant professors are tenure-track.

Associate professors are tenured.

Senior lecturers are permanent teaching faculty. PP described as tenured, so equivalent of associate.

Endowed are tenured.

So…all “real.”

Visiting could mean anything. At Williams, one of the regular visiting professors in the physics department is a cosmologist who has been instrumental at CERN, directed the Copernicus Astronomical Center in Warsaw, and is part of the permanent astronomy teaching faculty at the university of Warsaw. That’s a pretty good get for a small college in western Mass.

Don’t quite understand the tenor of this thread. Feels like a few people are looking for the worst possible interpretation.

Pretty sure OP is a troll.

You people think everyone is a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stumbled upon this just now. Rising sophomore at a WASP. My professors in the past year were as follows:

Fall:
- Senior Lecturer (tenured teaching-only faculty), appointed in 2015
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2019
- Assistant Professor, appointed in 2022
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2012

Spring:
- Assistant Professor, appointed in 2023
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2013
- Professor on endowed chair, appointed in 2013
- Senior Lecturer, appointed pre-2009

Just for kicks, here's my schedule for the upcoming semester:

- Visiting Assistant Professor, appointed in 2023
- Assistant Professor, appointed in 2023
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2007
- Professor on endowed chair, appointed in 2004

That's 1 of 12. I am a double major in two departments known for being severely overenrolled. Is this good enough for you?

So just one real professor?

Assistant professors are tenure-track.

Associate professors are tenured.

Senior lecturers are permanent teaching faculty. PP described as tenured, so equivalent of associate.

Endowed are tenured.

So…all “real.”

Visiting could mean anything. At Williams, one of the regular visiting professors in the physics department is a cosmologist who has been instrumental at CERN, directed the Copernicus Astronomical Center in Warsaw, and is part of the permanent astronomy teaching faculty at the university of Warsaw. That’s a pretty good get for a small college in western Mass.

Don’t quite understand the tenor of this thread. Feels like a few people are looking for the worst possible interpretation.

Pretty sure OP is a troll.

You people think everyone is a troll.

Come up with better posts then. These are contrived, topics are dug out from previous discussions and whoever is starting them is trying to keep people engaged in the summer lull for this thread but doing it in a grasping way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stumbled upon this just now. Rising sophomore at a WASP. My professors in the past year were as follows:

Fall:
- Senior Lecturer (tenured teaching-only faculty), appointed in 2015
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2019
- Assistant Professor, appointed in 2022
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2012

Spring:
- Assistant Professor, appointed in 2023
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2013
- Professor on endowed chair, appointed in 2013
- Senior Lecturer, appointed pre-2009

Just for kicks, here's my schedule for the upcoming semester:

- Visiting Assistant Professor, appointed in 2023
- Assistant Professor, appointed in 2023
- Associate Professor, appointed in 2007
- Professor on endowed chair, appointed in 2004

That's 1 of 12. I am a double major in two departments known for being severely overenrolled. Is this good enough for you?

So just one real professor?

At my institution, Associate Professors are tenured, while Assistant Professors are tenure-track.

Also, you clearly can't count, as there are two professors on endowed chairs on my list.