Nanny planned vacation without discussing

[Anonymous]

Look for a college kid or high schooler, OP. I know a high school teen being paid 5K to look after 2 kids for a month (9-5).

[Anonymous]

She gave you 8 weeks notice. This is plenty of time.

This is a job for her. She is entitled to time off.

Take your vacation time then, spend time with your children and cover for her.

[Anonymous]

In this particular situation, and especially given the nature of her job responsibilities two months is not enough. No employee working for a company is allowed to take vacation without first requesting those dates off from her employer. I have never had a job where I could book a vacations without first requesting those dates in advance. My jobs required that I request time off as early as possible as possible. Our plans to take vacation in December was cancelled when my husband’s employer declined to allow him to take 2 weeks off in December.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In this particular situation, and especially given the nature of her job responsibilities two months is not enough. No employee working for a company is allowed to take vacation without first requesting those dates off from her employer. I have never had a job where I could book a vacations without first requesting those dates in advance. My jobs required that I request time off as early as possible as possible. Our plans to take vacation in December was cancelled when my husband’s employer declined to allow him to take 2 weeks off in December.

Is OP your boss? Because they both seem equally shitty.

Not everyone works for such awful people/companies/employers.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this particular situation, and especially given the nature of her job responsibilities two months is not enough. No employee working for a company is allowed to take vacation without first requesting those dates off from her employer. I have never had a job where I could book a vacations without first requesting those dates in advance. My jobs required that I request time off as early as possible as possible. Our plans to take vacation in December was cancelled when my husband’s employer declined to allow him to take 2 weeks off in December.

Is OP your boss? Because they both seem equally shitty.

Not everyone works for such awful people/companies/employers.

DP. Two week vacation would be unusual in my corporate field. A vacation that long would typically limited to like honeymoon or an international anniversary trip. Def not a trip with friends, and definitely would be cleared beforehand. And employee would need to help assist with coverage while she was away. Though I don’t know how relevant this is to nanny life….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In this particular situation, and especially given the nature of her job responsibilities two months is not enough. No employee working for a company is allowed to take vacation without first requesting those dates off from her employer. I have never had a job where I could book a vacations without first requesting those dates in advance. My jobs required that I request time off as early as possible as possible. Our plans to take vacation in December was cancelled when my husband’s employer declined to allow him to take 2 weeks off in December.

This is not that situation, and thank goodness not everyone has such employers!!! Think about it, PP. You really think employers should all be allowed to dictate when you can take your paid leave? Of course some companies and institutions put pressure on employees to do just that... but it shouldn't be this way.

I'm a research scientist and I work with animals. When you pick that sort of field, you go in with the understanding that your schedule is not entirely your own. When I needed to work with newborn mice thymus, I went in any day or any hour that the pregnant mice decided to give birth. Which was often on a Sunday, because that's when the labs are quietest. No weekends for me.

But here, no. The nanny can pick her own vacations with acceptable notice, unless her contract says otherwise. If OP wishes, she can write a new contract to reflect that.

[Anonymous]

I would be pretty upset. You pay her all year primarily so that she is available full time in the summer. I think she should have discussed with you at the beginning of the year during camp sign up so you could plan around it. I am a teacher and I could never just take two weeks off during the school year!!

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Anonymous wrote:Nanny of many years mentioned last week shes doing a girls trip for 2 weeks in August.
I’m opening another office for my company same time so not only is it summer break- when my kids are home from school and I need her most- but I’m traveling this time frame.
I’m really pissed she didn’t even mention before she made this trip plan. I feel like she should have discussed this with us. We basically pay her year round to have her for summer when kids home from school.
And this isn’t trip with her kids (I would understand that if she booked a trip when her kids were home from school )—- but this is a girls trip.
Am I fair in thinking she should have discussed with us?
I mean- honestly my boss wouldn’t have looked kindly on me taking off right when I’m opening an office- so I think most people consider their employee when planning trip… at least to some degree.

Team Nanny. Plenty of notice. Earned vacation.

[Anonymous]

I’ll bet the majority of you complaining that you allow your own employers to dictate your vacations get paid a heck of a lot more than OP’s nanny. Maybe that’s a trade off that allows you such a huge salary that you are able to employ a full-time nanny in the first place.

As for OP, you know that she gave plenty of notice, you know that you failed to make it clear to her in a timely manner that you really need her in August, and you also know that you can easily find back up care for two measly weeks. So why the outrage? Is it because you think you own her or something?

[Anonymous]

Op - you are right to be annoyed. She should have cleared it with you before booking it. Not sure what I would do in your situation, but at a minimum you should let her know the vacation is not at a good time for your family, and going forward she should check with you before booking vacations so you can coordinate.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this particular situation, and especially given the nature of her job responsibilities two months is not enough. No employee working for a company is allowed to take vacation without first requesting those dates off from her employer. I have never had a job where I could book a vacations without first requesting those dates in advance. My jobs required that I request time off as early as possible as possible. Our plans to take vacation in December was cancelled when my husband’s employer declined to allow him to take 2 weeks off in December.

Is OP your boss? Because they both seem equally shitty.

Not everyone works for such awful people/companies/employers.

DP. Two week vacation would be unusual in my corporate field. A vacation that long would typically limited to like honeymoon or an international anniversary trip. Def not a trip with friends, and definitely would be cleared beforehand. And employee would need to help assist with coverage while she was away. Though I don’t know how relevant this is to nanny life….

Your employers need to know the exact details of your PTO request before they approve it? Is that even legal? I thought it would be private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ll bet the majority of you complaining that you allow your own employers to dictate your vacations get paid a heck of a lot more than OP’s nanny. Maybe that’s a trade off that allows you such a huge salary that you are able to employ a full-time nanny in the first place.

As for OP, you know that she gave plenty of notice, you know that you failed to make it clear to her in a timely manner that you really need her in August, and you also know that you can easily find back up care for two measly weeks. So why the outrage? Is it because you think you own her or something?

I am not OP, but I assume people are annoyed because they need the nanny in order to be able to keep their job that pays the nanny.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this particular situation, and especially given the nature of her job responsibilities two months is not enough. No employee working for a company is allowed to take vacation without first requesting those dates off from her employer. I have never had a job where I could book a vacations without first requesting those dates in advance. My jobs required that I request time off as early as possible as possible. Our plans to take vacation in December was cancelled when my husband’s employer declined to allow him to take 2 weeks off in December.

Is OP your boss? Because they both seem equally shitty.

Not everyone works for such awful people/companies/employers.

DP. Two week vacation would be unusual in my corporate field. A vacation that long would typically limited to like honeymoon or an international anniversary trip. Def not a trip with friends, and definitely would be cleared beforehand. And employee would need to help assist with coverage while she was away. Though I don’t know how relevant this is to nanny life….

Your employers need to know the exact details of your PTO request before they approve it? Is that even legal? I thought it would be private.

Oh no, sorry - I didn’t mean that my employer refuses vacation requests based on the exact details. I just mean that in my corporate work experience, folks don’t take two weeks off unless it’s a big trip, like something really important like a honeymoon, and it’s cleared beforehand. Given the nature of our work, going silent for two weeks would be unusual.

In some ways I could see this being similar in the nanny world, since taking two weeks off really does put a nanny family in a jam. They can’t really cover that and work full time. But on the other hand, seems like they can find someone to fill in, unlike some folks in corporate jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In this particular situation, and especially given the nature of her job responsibilities two months is not enough. No employee working for a company is allowed to take vacation without first requesting those dates off from her employer. I have never had a job where I could book a vacations without first requesting those dates in advance. My jobs required that I request time off as early as possible as possible. Our plans to take vacation in December was cancelled when my husband’s employer declined to allow him to take 2 weeks off in December.

That is absurd. Two months notice is reasonable. You could have gone without your husband.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this particular situation, and especially given the nature of her job responsibilities two months is not enough. No employee working for a company is allowed to take vacation without first requesting those dates off from her employer. I have never had a job where I could book a vacations without first requesting those dates in advance. My jobs required that I request time off as early as possible as possible. Our plans to take vacation in December was cancelled when my husband’s employer declined to allow him to take 2 weeks off in December.

Is OP your boss? Because they both seem equally shitty.

Not everyone works for such awful people/companies/employers.

DP. Two week vacation would be unusual in my corporate field. A vacation that long would typically limited to like honeymoon or an international anniversary trip. Def not a trip with friends, and definitely would be cleared beforehand. And employee would need to help assist with coverage while she was away. Though I don’t know how relevant this is to nanny life….

Your employers need to know the exact details of your PTO request before they approve it? Is that even legal? I thought it would be private.

Oh no, sorry - I didn’t mean that my employer refuses vacation requests based on the exact details. I just mean that in my corporate work experience, folks don’t take two weeks off unless it’s a big trip, like something really important like a honeymoon, and it’s cleared beforehand. Given the nature of our work, going silent for two weeks would be unusual.

In some ways I could see this being similar in the nanny world, since taking two weeks off really does put a nanny family in a jam. They can’t really cover that and work full time. But on the other hand, seems like they can find someone to fill in, unlike some folks in corporate jobs.

Of course they take two weeks off.