Are engagement rings getting bigger?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have antique diamonds so no dog in the fight, but lab diamonds are molecularly identical to natural diamonds. Everyone saying "fake diamonds" needs to Google.

If it didn't come from the earth and mined it's not real.

Do you distinguish ice made by the freezer vs ice on the road in the winter?

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Anonymous wrote:So is having a real diamond vs a lab diamond a flex?

I'm going to disagree with pps who said no.

I don't know if it will, but if you look at the market of other man-made items, the natural versions still fetch a premium. A pp used the example of pearls. Natural pearls are absolutely a flex. They are far more expensive than cultured versions, even though cultured pearls are generally what's put into jewellery. Colored stones also have man made versions, but the naturals are again worth far far more.

So who knows what the future holds. Maybe the majority of jewellery will start to be made with lab diamonds. It's certainly attractive to the jewellery who drops their costs dramatically, and to the consumer who can afford some gorgeous bling that may not have been in their budgets before. But there will always be people who prefer natural/mined diamonds, I'm just not sure who their consumer will be in the future when all the MMDs are equally as beautiful, sparkly and much lower price.

A Natural diamond loses at least half it's value or more right after it leaves a shop. A Natural diamond is also sold at a cost that depends on the seller and the buyer not much consistency. Not a good investment.

And now we have DeBeers leaving the natural stone market because Labs are kicking their butt.

Labs are not worth anything once they leave a store so I guess a natural is sort of better, but honestly given it's not a great investment spending less on a Lab makes way more sense financially.

Anyone thinking natural diamonds are better it's a slim better and now that DeBeers is selling they will be worth zip.

I'm not talking about investment purposes. Diamonds have always been poor investments. But there are still people (even on this page) who don't put lab and natural diamonds in the same category.

For me, I am an antique cut girl. For my engagement ring, I wanted this antique K OMC. These are things that can never be remade, even in labs. There is something special about antiques. There will still be people who want natural diamonds, I do not think they will be made obsolete any time soon.

I guess the people that don't really distinguish them are not interested in jewelry but more of what the rock represents. So if the lab gets the same point across, why get the more expensive natural version?
I don't think natural will be obsolete either but it will be like fur coats I think

I think you are correct. I have a fair amount of inherited and vintage purchased diamond parures, which honestly I enjoy but I do not wear out nearly as much as my other diamond peices. Likewise with the furs...

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Suzy is not going to be thrilled with a one CT natural one when she could have had a 3 CT platinum stunner for less- side by side lab and natural are identical and even have the same ratings for color, clarity etc.
You can’t tell from a naked eye -but if you would prefer the child labor origins go for it.

Everyone will know it's fake and cheap

No they won't what do you not understand about the properties of a lab diamond? They are the same as a Natural one.

I have CZ earrings because I live a high-income lifestyle people assume they are real. I get compliments all the time $32 and they are not labs. If they were lab diamonds if I took those off no one would know. The CZ's sure anyone would know.

People are just stupid. Diamonds are a bad investment.

They know.

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Anonymous wrote:I have antique diamonds so no dog in the fight, but lab diamonds are molecularly identical to natural diamonds. Everyone saying "fake diamonds" needs to Google.

Yep hence no one is going to tell the difference with a naked eye.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So is having a real diamond vs a lab diamond a flex?

I'm going to disagree with pps who said no.

I don't know if it will, but if you look at the market of other man-made items, the natural versions still fetch a premium. A pp used the example of pearls. Natural pearls are absolutely a flex. They are far more expensive than cultured versions, even though cultured pearls are generally what's put into jewellery. Colored stones also have man made versions, but the naturals are again worth far far more.

So who knows what the future holds. Maybe the majority of jewellery will start to be made with lab diamonds. It's certainly attractive to the jewellery who drops their costs dramatically, and to the consumer who can afford some gorgeous bling that may not have been in their budgets before. But there will always be people who prefer natural/mined diamonds, I'm just not sure who their consumer will be in the future when all the MMDs are equally as beautiful, sparkly and much lower price.

A Natural diamond loses at least half it's value or more right after it leaves a shop. A Natural diamond is also sold at a cost that depends on the seller and the buyer not much consistency. Not a good investment.

And now we have DeBeers leaving the natural stone market because Labs are kicking their butt.

Labs are not worth anything once they leave a store so I guess a natural is sort of better, but honestly given it's not a great investment spending less on a Lab makes way more sense financially.

Anyone thinking natural diamonds are better it's a slim better and now that DeBeers is selling they will be worth zip.

I'm not talking about investment purposes. Diamonds have always been poor investments. But there are still people (even on this page) who don't put lab and natural diamonds in the same category.

For me, I am an antique cut girl. For my engagement ring, I wanted this antique K OMC. These are things that can never be remade, even in labs. There is something special about antiques. There will still be people who want natural diamonds, I do not think they will be made obsolete any time soon.

So many aesthetics to keep up with these days. I’m this!!! I’m that!!! Me, me, me …declaring myself!!!

Triggered much? Just stating my personal diamond preference, on a thread about diamonds. Get over yourself.

“Just stating my personal diamond preference!!!!”

Can you hear yourself? This is hilarious.

Sounds like someone is jealous they don't have any ring, let alone a diamond one. Why are you on this thread?

lol. Pp is 12 yrs old.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So is having a real diamond vs a lab diamond a flex?

I'm going to disagree with pps who said no.

I don't know if it will, but if you look at the market of other man-made items, the natural versions still fetch a premium. A pp used the example of pearls. Natural pearls are absolutely a flex. They are far more expensive than cultured versions, even though cultured pearls are generally what's put into jewellery. Colored stones also have man made versions, but the naturals are again worth far far more.

So who knows what the future holds. Maybe the majority of jewellery will start to be made with lab diamonds. It's certainly attractive to the jewellery who drops their costs dramatically, and to the consumer who can afford some gorgeous bling that may not have been in their budgets before. But there will always be people who prefer natural/mined diamonds, I'm just not sure who their consumer will be in the future when all the MMDs are equally as beautiful, sparkly and much lower price.

A Natural diamond loses at least half it's value or more right after it leaves a shop. A Natural diamond is also sold at a cost that depends on the seller and the buyer not much consistency. Not a good investment.

And now we have DeBeers leaving the natural stone market because Labs are kicking their butt.

Labs are not worth anything once they leave a store so I guess a natural is sort of better, but honestly given it's not a great investment spending less on a Lab makes way more sense financially.

Anyone thinking natural diamonds are better it's a slim better and now that DeBeers is selling they will be worth zip.

I'm not talking about investment purposes. Diamonds have always been poor investments. But there are still people (even on this page) who don't put lab and natural diamonds in the same category.

For me, I am an antique cut girl. For my engagement ring, I wanted this antique K OMC. These are things that can never be remade, even in labs. There is something special about antiques. There will still be people who want natural diamonds, I do not think they will be made obsolete any time soon.

I guess the people that don't really distinguish them are not interested in jewelry but more of what the rock represents. So if the lab gets the same point across, why get the more expensive natural version?
I don't think natural will be obsolete either but it will be like fur coats I think

I think you are correct. I have a fair amount of inherited and vintage purchased diamond parures, which honestly I enjoy but I do not wear out nearly as much as my other diamond peices. Likewise with the furs...

Great grandma had entered the chat ^^

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet Suzy is not going to be thrilled with a one CT natural one when she could have had a 3 CT platinum stunner for less- side by side lab and natural are identical and even have the same ratings for color, clarity etc.
You can’t tell from a naked eye -but if you would prefer the child labor origins go for it.

Everyone will know it's fake and cheap

No they won't what do you not understand about the properties of a lab diamond? They are the same as a Natural one.

I have CZ earrings because I live a high-income lifestyle people assume they are real. I get compliments all the time $32 and they are not labs. If they were lab diamonds if I took those off no one would know. The CZ's sure anyone would know.

People are just stupid. Diamonds are a bad investment.

They know.

Actually, unless the poster takes off the earrings so they can be examined, it's really impossible to tell. I prefere CZ earrings and real diamonds for rings/bracelets. CZ for earrings because the amount of times I have lost 4 carat studs on the Cotê is embarrassing. Lesson learnt.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So is having a real diamond vs a lab diamond a flex?

No omg are you stupid.

Labs are the same as a Natural diamond.

This is not hard.

Wrong. And they are like costume jewelry with etchings to indicate easily they are fake

Actually only a jeweler can tell that they are fake and the reason is bc they are too flawless to be real. That’s a game changer.

[Anonymous]

Few people know this but a top quality ruby is more precious and valuable than a same-sized top quality Diamond. And they are much, much harder to find.

[Anonymous]

I am an umc person with a 2.5/3 (I honestly don’t remember) carat equivalent ring with a moissanite center stone. I like that I can wear it anywhere without worrying about it and am glad we didn’t spend too much on it at the time so we could travel more. I don’t wear a traditional wedding band with it in favor of an emerald studded ring.

In my wider circle, I assume rings purchased in the last 10 years are about 50/50 natural, mined diamond v. lab and moissanite. I think it’s nice that more people can achieve the look they want without having to overspend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have antique diamonds so no dog in the fight, but lab diamonds are molecularly identical to natural diamonds. Everyone saying "fake diamonds" needs to Google.

If it didn't come from the earth and mined it's not real.

Do you distinguish ice made by the freezer vs ice on the road in the winter?

The ice from the freezer comes in cubed blocks. You can consume it. The ice on the road is either frozen puddles or invisible until you hit it. I wouldn't eat it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So is having a real diamond vs a lab diamond a flex?

I'm going to disagree with pps who said no.

I don't know if it will, but if you look at the market of other man-made items, the natural versions still fetch a premium. A pp used the example of pearls. Natural pearls are absolutely a flex. They are far more expensive than cultured versions, even though cultured pearls are generally what's put into jewellery. Colored stones also have man made versions, but the naturals are again worth far far more.

So who knows what the future holds. Maybe the majority of jewellery will start to be made with lab diamonds. It's certainly attractive to the jewellery who drops their costs dramatically, and to the consumer who can afford some gorgeous bling that may not have been in their budgets before. But there will always be people who prefer natural/mined diamonds, I'm just not sure who their consumer will be in the future when all the MMDs are equally as beautiful, sparkly and much lower price.

A Natural diamond loses at least half it's value or more right after it leaves a shop. A Natural diamond is also sold at a cost that depends on the seller and the buyer not much consistency. Not a good investment.

And now we have DeBeers leaving the natural stone market because Labs are kicking their butt.

Labs are not worth anything once they leave a store so I guess a natural is sort of better, but honestly given it's not a great investment spending less on a Lab makes way more sense financially.

Anyone thinking natural diamonds are better it's a slim better and now that DeBeers is selling they will be worth zip.

Accurate ^^

Not totally. My natural Diamond after 20 year was worth the same. I sold it for what I paid got something a little bigger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Few people know this but a top quality ruby is more precious and valuable than a same-sized top quality Diamond. And they are much, much harder to find.

Yes :smiles: I have a few nice ruby peices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am an umc person with a 2.5/3 (I honestly don’t remember) carat equivalent ring with a moissanite center stone. I like that I can wear it anywhere without worrying about it and am glad we didn’t spend too much on it at the time so we could travel more. I don’t wear a traditional wedding band with it in favor of an emerald studded ring.

In my wider circle, I assume rings purchased in the last 10 years are about 50/50 natural, mined diamond v. lab and moissanite. I think it’s nice that more people can achieve the look they want without having to overspend.

Yikes...where are you going that you need to be worried about theft of your rings? Seems a bit extreme to me.

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Anonymous wrote:So is having a real diamond vs a lab diamond a flex?

If being complicit in dangerous and degrading labor practices is important to you, absolutely.