Insiders view of tryouts

[Anonymous]

I hope Arlington moves kids up internally this year instead of bringing in kids from the outside. I know you need to move around to move up, but my kids likes their friends.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:12:38 hit on the head, your kid being lost in the crowd if you aren't Messi Jr.

What's the best way to already be known to the coaches before the tryout if you are coming in from outside the club?

I had to e-mail the coaches twice and talk to the coaches after each tryout and I asked my kid to go up and shake the coach's hand and say thank you. I think this was helpful, we got an offer just after the 2nd tryout for 2nd team (out of 3 teams). Which was good as that top team looked packed and there were so many kids, they could have made 5 teams if they offered everyone a slot! You can also try to stand out in other ways, Heck, I even saw 1 new kid wear mis-matched shoes and socks.... on each leg... she defiantly stood out. She was quickly talked to by the coaches. Whereas, my kid looked like 10 other kids on the field with an Alex Morgan jersey, black shorts and pink socks. lol So, I think the talking to the coaches and saying thanks after is helpful when you're new.

oh god--I hate the mismatched crap and fluorescent socks, etc. It screams 'bush league'. Over-bearing soccer parent.

or marketing wise parents….(momagers/dadagers). No different from colored hair… if the game play matches the flair they will stand out

[Anonymous]

I think it’s important to realize that some clubs have 5-6 players who are going to be cut each year and replaced. Parents think going in that their kid will be on the team until the end of high school, but in reality they will make the team, sit the bench for a year and then get cut at the end of the year. I don’t know how to avoid that but coaches should be more transparent. This is obviously the more competitive teams, ECNL, ECNL-R, EDP, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s important to realize that some clubs have 5-6 players who are going to be cut each year and replaced. Parents think going in that their kid will be on the team until the end of high school, but in reality they will make the team, sit the bench for a year and then get cut at the end of the year. I don’t know how to avoid that but coaches should be more transparent. This is obviously the more competitive teams, ECNL, ECNL-R, EDP, etc.

Why take them if they plan to bench them every year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:12:38 hit on the head, your kid being lost in the crowd if you aren't Messi Jr.

What's the best way to already be known to the coaches before the tryout if you are coming in from outside the club?

I had to e-mail the coaches twice and talk to the coaches after each tryout and I asked my kid to go up and shake the coach's hand and say thank you. I think this was helpful, we got an offer just after the 2nd tryout for 2nd team (out of 3 teams). Which was good as that top team looked packed and there were so many kids, they could have made 5 teams if they offered everyone a slot! You can also try to stand out in other ways, Heck, I even saw 1 new kid wear mis-matched shoes and socks.... on each leg... she defiantly stood out. She was quickly talked to by the coaches. Whereas, my kid looked like 10 other kids on the field with an Alex Morgan jersey, black shorts and pink socks. lol So, I think the talking to the coaches and saying thanks after is helpful when you're new.

oh god--I hate the mismatched crap and fluorescent socks, etc. It screams 'bush league'. Over-bearing soccer parent.

or marketing wise parents….(momagers/dadagers). No different from colored hair… if the game play matches the flair they will stand out

No. Just no. Look like a pro, play like a pro. This stuff can work against your player.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s important to realize that some clubs have 5-6 players who are going to be cut each year and replaced. Parents think going in that their kid will be on the team until the end of high school, but in reality they will make the team, sit the bench for a year and then get cut at the end of the year. I don’t know how to avoid that but coaches should be more transparent. This is obviously the more competitive teams, ECNL, ECNL-R, EDP, etc.

Why take them if they plan to bench them every year?

To see if they can “ work their way into the lineup.” And to have subs on a hot day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s important to realize that some clubs have 5-6 players who are going to be cut each year and replaced. Parents think going in that their kid will be on the team until the end of high school, but in reality they will make the team, sit the bench for a year and then get cut at the end of the year. I don’t know how to avoid that but coaches should be more transparent. This is obviously the more competitive teams, ECNL, ECNL-R, EDP, etc.

Why take them if they plan to bench them every year?

To see if they can “ work their way into the lineup.” And to have subs on a hot day.

This is routine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:While entire teams are not pre-made, the majority of them are. Perhaps 70-80% of the roster. This spring I knew two of the three coaches in my kid's age group. Both coaches told me exactly which kids were getting offers to which teams and exactly which kids were not getting offers.

So, while there is perhaps 1-4 potential open spots it's not uncommon for teams to be "pre-made". Now, the issue comes when clubs don't always place the best players with the top teams because they want all their teams to perform well so they spread out the bubble players. This is unfair to those players because proper development requires players to be around players of even skill (usually). Otherwise, it's a wasted season.

We found the one whose kid is passed on year to year ^^^

Lol. You have such an “in” that they tell you all the other kids’ business

Late response, but no. The reason I know these things is because I'm a team manager and I speak with the coaches within my kid's age regularly.

Geez I guess I should be a team manager too. Although I didn’t think any of the team managers we’ve had so far had that level of inside info.

I don't think that's particularly uncommon. Our team manager knew my kid was being promoted between seasons before I did. He definitely has inside intel on what's going on with the age group teams.

This. This past winter there were five players being changed between up and down. I knew well before anyone else to get ready for the moves in PM and to make sure their funds were going to be moved over. If you don't think team managers know more than the normal parent you're living under a rock. January of this year I already knew 80% of the players guaranteed a spot on two teams. I also knew 100% of the players who were not receiving an offer months before tryouts. Coaches have their minds made up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While entire teams are not pre-made, the majority of them are. Perhaps 70-80% of the roster. This spring I knew two of the three coaches in my kid's age group. Both coaches told me exactly which kids were getting offers to which teams and exactly which kids were not getting offers.

So, while there is perhaps 1-4 potential open spots it's not uncommon for teams to be "pre-made". Now, the issue comes when clubs don't always place the best players with the top teams because they want all their teams to perform well so they spread out the bubble players. This is unfair to those players because proper development requires players to be around players of even skill (usually). Otherwise, it's a wasted season.

We found the one whose kid is passed on year to year ^^^

Lol. You have such an “in” that they tell you all the other kids’ business

Late response, but no. The reason I know these things is because I'm a team manager and I speak with the coaches within my kid's age regularly.

Geez I guess I should be a team manager too. Although I didn’t think any of the team managers we’ve had so far had that level of inside info.

They knew. They just didn't tell you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While entire teams are not pre-made, the majority of them are. Perhaps 70-80% of the roster. This spring I knew two of the three coaches in my kid's age group. Both coaches told me exactly which kids were getting offers to which teams and exactly which kids were not getting offers.

So, while there is perhaps 1-4 potential open spots it's not uncommon for teams to be "pre-made". Now, the issue comes when clubs don't always place the best players with the top teams because they want all their teams to perform well so they spread out the bubble players. This is unfair to those players because proper development requires players to be around players of even skill (usually). Otherwise, it's a wasted season.

We found the one whose kid is passed on year to year ^^^

Lol. You have such an “in” that they tell you all the other kids’ business

Late response, but no. The reason I know these things is because I'm a team manager and I speak with the coaches within my kid's age regularly.

Geez I guess I should be a team manager too. Although I didn’t think any of the team managers we’ve had so far had that level of inside info.

They knew. They just didn't tell you.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:12:38 hit on the head, your kid being lost in the crowd if you aren't Messi Jr.

What's the best way to already be known to the coaches before the tryout if you are coming in from outside the club?

I had to e-mail the coaches twice and talk to the coaches after each tryout and I asked my kid to go up and shake the coach's hand and say thank you. I think this was helpful, we got an offer just after the 2nd tryout for 2nd team (out of 3 teams). Which was good as that top team looked packed and there were so many kids, they could have made 5 teams if they offered everyone a slot! You can also try to stand out in other ways, Heck, I even saw 1 new kid wear mis-matched shoes and socks.... on each leg... she defiantly stood out. She was quickly talked to by the coaches. Whereas, my kid looked like 10 other kids on the field with an Alex Morgan jersey, black shorts and pink socks. lol So, I think the talking to the coaches and saying thanks after is helpful when you're new.

oh god--I hate the mismatched crap and fluorescent socks, etc. It screams 'bush league'. Over-bearing soccer parent.

or marketing wise parents….(momagers/dadagers). No different from colored hair… if the game play matches the flair they will stand out

No. Just no. Look like a pro, play like a pro. This stuff can work against your player.

ehhhhj mismatch i can agree on. Loud colors tho… is how you stand out. Kiddo
Has
To cash that check however otherwise its a clown show.


Every kid my dd played against w colored hair stood out for their gameplay more than anything….

Wheras ive seen kids with their names on their headbands have that work against them…. Because of lack of output

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s important to realize that some clubs have 5-6 players who are going to be cut each year and replaced. Parents think going in that their kid will be on the team until the end of high school, but in reality they will make the team, sit the bench for a year and then get cut at the end of the year. I don’t know how to avoid that but coaches should be more transparent. This is obviously the more competitive teams, ECNL, ECNL-R, EDP, etc.

coaches cant be transparent for business reasons. Hence why be scared to broach the topic. Get it out of the way… pay ur fees and move on. Ur kiddos can Guest practice and play on the opposite side of the pitch… w some revenge energy to boost them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While entire teams are not pre-made, the majority of them are. Perhaps 70-80% of the roster. This spring I knew two of the three coaches in my kid's age group. Both coaches told me exactly which kids were getting offers to which teams and exactly which kids were not getting offers.

So, while there is perhaps 1-4 potential open spots it's not uncommon for teams to be "pre-made". Now, the issue comes when clubs don't always place the best players with the top teams because they want all their teams to perform well so they spread out the bubble players. This is unfair to those players because proper development requires players to be around players of even skill (usually). Otherwise, it's a wasted season.

We found the one whose kid is passed on year to year ^^^

Lol. You have such an “in” that they tell you all the other kids’ business

Late response, but no. The reason I know these things is because I'm a team manager and I speak with the coaches within my kid's age regularly.

Geez I guess I should be a team manager too. Although I didn’t think any of the team managers we’ve had so far had that level of inside info.

Feel free to volunteer! It’s a PITA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s important to realize that some clubs have 5-6 players who are going to be cut each year and replaced. Parents think going in that their kid will be on the team until the end of high school, but in reality they will make the team, sit the bench for a year and then get cut at the end of the year. I don’t know how to avoid that but coaches should be more transparent. This is obviously the more competitive teams, ECNL, ECNL-R, EDP, etc.

also sometimes a coach for one reason or another just doesnt like a kid. We witnessed one of our bench players get cut. But if you looked at stats he was responsible for 25% of the teams O. (As a bench player!) Every coach over values 1 atribute, and this boy was deficient in it. But I know he will find another team that values him. Just sad this coach gave up on him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While entire teams are not pre-made, the majority of them are. Perhaps 70-80% of the roster. This spring I knew two of the three coaches in my kid's age group. Both coaches told me exactly which kids were getting offers to which teams and exactly which kids were not getting offers.

So, while there is perhaps 1-4 potential open spots it's not uncommon for teams to be "pre-made". Now, the issue comes when clubs don't always place the best players with the top teams because they want all their teams to perform well so they spread out the bubble players. This is unfair to those players because proper development requires players to be around players of even skill (usually). Otherwise, it's a wasted season.

We found the one whose kid is passed on year to year ^^^

Lol. You have such an “in” that they tell you all the other kids’ business

Late response, but no. The reason I know these things is because I'm a team manager and I speak with the coaches within my kid's age regularly.

Geez I guess I should be a team manager too. Although I didn’t think any of the team managers we’ve had so far had that level of inside info.

They knew. They just didn't tell you.

What if I asked? Are they allowed to tell me?

Also- we are talking about parent volunteer team managers right? Not like paid employees of the club?