DS 13 is a nightmare with braces

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Anonymous wrote:Take the braces off. Try again in a few years when/if he’s ready. You can’t force him to do something (painful) with his body that he doesn’t want to do, and you shouldn’t. This isn’t life-saving medical care.


I’m assuming OP already paid in full for the treatment course


Consider it a tax for not respecting bodily autonomy


This is ridiculous! Parents make decisions for their kids that they aren't happy with all the time, including medical decisions! A 13-year-old is too young to understand the consequences of not getting his teeth fixed. Should we just let kids choose not to get vaccines, take showers, eat their vegetables or brush their teeth? Play video games all day instead of doing their homework?

OP, if you have to cancel treatment, then maybe you should have him pay you back that $5,000 plus interest. Maybe a couple of summers of mowing lawns and he will learn not to disrespect your parental efforts.


Absolutely psychotic. Your child is not your slave doll.


Unfortunately, I know a couple of parents like this. It’s the reason my nephew went no contact with his mother after he moved out. Yes, she made him get braces too.



Sometimes you have to force kids to do things they don't want to for their long term good. It really depends on the child and situation. If you don't get them fixed you can have issues later on, like I do and the ortho will not fix them because of other reasons. I wish my parents did them but they claim I didn't need them as it was very mild.


And you hope your kid does not undermine that orthodontic treatment like OP's son and my nephew. My nephew didn't even finish his treatment, and never even bothered to wear the retainer they gave him to retain whatever progress they made.

The kid HAS TO WANT treatment or you will be just wasting money.

What are you going to do if your kid undermines their orthodontic treatment?
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Anonymous wrote:Take the braces off. Try again in a few years when/if he’s ready. You can’t force him to do something (painful) with his body that he doesn’t want to do, and you shouldn’t. This isn’t life-saving medical care.


I’m assuming OP already paid in full for the treatment course


Consider it a tax for not respecting bodily autonomy


This is ridiculous! Parents make decisions for their kids that they aren't happy with all the time, including medical decisions! A 13-year-old is too young to understand the consequences of not getting his teeth fixed. Should we just let kids choose not to get vaccines, take showers, eat their vegetables or brush their teeth? Play video games all day instead of doing their homework?

OP, if you have to cancel treatment, then maybe you should have him pay you back that $5,000 plus interest. Maybe a couple of summers of mowing lawns and he will learn not to disrespect your parental efforts.


Absolutely psychotic. Your child is not your slave doll.


Unfortunately, I know a couple of parents like this. It’s the reason my nephew went no contact with his mother after he moved out. Yes, she made him get braces too.



Sometimes you have to force kids to do things they don't want to for their long term good. It really depends on the child and situation. If you don't get them fixed you can have issues later on, like I do and the ortho will not fix them because of other reasons. I wish my parents did them but they claim I didn't need them as it was very mild.


OP is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay past the debate of whether or not to force her kid to do something "they don't want for their long term good" and is now dealing with the aftermath.
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Anonymous wrote:Take the braces off. Try again in a few years when/if he’s ready. You can’t force him to do something (painful) with his body that he doesn’t want to do, and you shouldn’t. This isn’t life-saving medical care.


I’m assuming OP already paid in full for the treatment course


Consider it a tax for not respecting bodily autonomy


This is ridiculous! Parents make decisions for their kids that they aren't happy with all the time, including medical decisions! A 13-year-old is too young to understand the consequences of not getting his teeth fixed. Should we just let kids choose not to get vaccines, take showers, eat their vegetables or brush their teeth? Play video games all day instead of doing their homework?

OP, if you have to cancel treatment, then maybe you should have him pay you back that $5,000 plus interest. Maybe a couple of summers of mowing lawns and he will learn not to disrespect your parental efforts.


Absolutely psychotic. Your child is not your slave doll.


Unfortunately, I know a couple of parents like this. It’s the reason my nephew went no contact with his mother after he moved out. Yes, she made him get braces too.



Sometimes you have to force kids to do things they don't want to for their long term good. It really depends on the child and situation. If you don't get them fixed you can have issues later on, like I do and the ortho will not fix them because of other reasons. I wish my parents did them but they claim I didn't need them as it was very mild.


And you hope your kid does not undermine that orthodontic treatment like OP's son and my nephew. My nephew didn't even finish his treatment, and never even bothered to wear the retainer they gave him to retain whatever progress they made.

The kid HAS TO WANT treatment or you will be just wasting money.

What are you going to do if your kid undermines their orthodontic treatment?


Maybe kid is not doing it on purpose. We had several broken wires, brackets that broke off and more. Multiple appointments to fix it. We were careful with food. Kid recently lost a retainer. It happens. My kid did not want it. I did not let it be an option. They preferred one ortho over another, we agreed and had them put on same day so they would not have time to be anxious over it. I am happy to waste my money on my kids.
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Anonymous wrote:Take the braces off. Try again in a few years when/if he’s ready. You can’t force him to do something (painful) with his body that he doesn’t want to do, and you shouldn’t. This isn’t life-saving medical care.


I’m assuming OP already paid in full for the treatment course


Consider it a tax for not respecting bodily autonomy


This is ridiculous! Parents make decisions for their kids that they aren't happy with all the time, including medical decisions! A 13-year-old is too young to understand the consequences of not getting his teeth fixed. Should we just let kids choose not to get vaccines, take showers, eat their vegetables or brush their teeth? Play video games all day instead of doing their homework?

OP, if you have to cancel treatment, then maybe you should have him pay you back that $5,000 plus interest. Maybe a couple of summers of mowing lawns and he will learn not to disrespect your parental efforts.


Absolutely psychotic. Your child is not your slave doll.


Unfortunately, I know a couple of parents like this. It’s the reason my nephew went no contact with his mother after he moved out. Yes, she made him get braces too.



Sometimes you have to force kids to do things they don't want to for their long term good. It really depends on the child and situation. If you don't get them fixed you can have issues later on, like I do and the ortho will not fix them because of other reasons. I wish my parents did them but they claim I didn't need them as it was very mild.


And you hope your kid does not undermine that orthodontic treatment like OP's son and my nephew. My nephew didn't even finish his treatment, and never even bothered to wear the retainer they gave him to retain whatever progress they made.

The kid HAS TO WANT treatment or you will be just wasting money.

What are you going to do if your kid undermines their orthodontic treatment?


Maybe kid is not doing it on purpose. We had several broken wires, brackets that broke off and more. Multiple appointments to fix it. We were careful with food. Kid recently lost a retainer. It happens. My kid did not want it. I did not let it be an option. They preferred one ortho over another, we agreed and had them put on same day so they would not have time to be anxious over it. I am happy to waste my money on my kids.


OP seems to think her son is doing it on purpose. You pretending that no kid has ever deliberately undermined their orthodontic treatment ever is ultimately not helping here.
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Anonymous wrote:Take the braces off. Try again in a few years when/if he’s ready. You can’t force him to do something (painful) with his body that he doesn’t want to do, and you shouldn’t. This isn’t life-saving medical care.


I’m assuming OP already paid in full for the treatment course


Consider it a tax for not respecting bodily autonomy


This is ridiculous! Parents make decisions for their kids that they aren't happy with all the time, including medical decisions! A 13-year-old is too young to understand the consequences of not getting his teeth fixed. Should we just let kids choose not to get vaccines, take showers, eat their vegetables or brush their teeth? Play video games all day instead of doing their homework?

OP, if you have to cancel treatment, then maybe you should have him pay you back that $5,000 plus interest. Maybe a couple of summers of mowing lawns and he will learn not to disrespect your parental efforts.


Absolutely psychotic. Your child is not your slave doll.


Unfortunately, I know a couple of parents like this. It’s the reason my nephew went no contact with his mother after he moved out. Yes, she made him get braces too.



Sometimes you have to force kids to do things they don't want to for their long term good. It really depends on the child and situation. If you don't get them fixed you can have issues later on, like I do and the ortho will not fix them because of other reasons. I wish my parents did them but they claim I didn't need them as it was very mild.


And you hope your kid does not undermine that orthodontic treatment like OP's son and my nephew. My nephew didn't even finish his treatment, and never even bothered to wear the retainer they gave him to retain whatever progress they made.

The kid HAS TO WANT treatment or you will be just wasting money.

What are you going to do if your kid undermines their orthodontic treatment?


Maybe kid is not doing it on purpose. We had several broken wires, brackets that broke off and more. Multiple appointments to fix it. We were careful with food. Kid recently lost a retainer. It happens. My kid did not want it. I did not let it be an option. They preferred one ortho over another, we agreed and had them put on same day so they would not have time to be anxious over it. I am happy to waste my money on my kids.


OP seems to think her son is doing it on purpose. You pretending that no kid has ever deliberately undermined their orthodontic treatment ever is ultimately not helping here.


I’m sure some kids have but broken wires and brackets are common. It happens. Maybe if she were more supportive it would be easier on the kid.
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I have bad underbite and crowding due to growing up abroad (parents tried to fix it but in that day and age they didn’t succeed) and you know I’m doing ok! Even managed to get married and have a kid
I’ve had a lot of dental work done after the birth of my child but I suspect much of it was a crook dentist making money off me (abroad also) but since then it’s been almost nothing.

The point is, he’ll be able to do it when he is older, or maybe not at all, and he will be fine. I don’t think it will add much to the social stigma that unfortunately many many kids with autism face…
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My DD with autism has a very sensitive mouth. Perhaps it is bothering him so much he can't stop touching it.
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Anonymous wrote:Take the braces off. Try again in a few years when/if he’s ready. You can’t force him to do something (painful) with his body that he doesn’t want to do, and you shouldn’t. This isn’t life-saving medical care.


I’m assuming OP already paid in full for the treatment course


Consider it a tax for not respecting bodily autonomy


This is ridiculous! Parents make decisions for their kids that they aren't happy with all the time, including medical decisions! A 13-year-old is too young to understand the consequences of not getting his teeth fixed. Should we just let kids choose not to get vaccines, take showers, eat their vegetables or brush their teeth? Play video games all day instead of doing their homework?

OP, if you have to cancel treatment, then maybe you should have him pay you back that $5,000 plus interest. Maybe a couple of summers of mowing lawns and he will learn not to disrespect your parental efforts.


Absolutely psychotic. Your child is not your slave doll.


Unfortunately, I know a couple of parents like this. It’s the reason my nephew went no contact with his mother after he moved out. Yes, she made him get braces too.



Sometimes you have to force kids to do things they don't want to for their long term good. It really depends on the child and situation. If you don't get them fixed you can have issues later on, like I do and the ortho will not fix them because of other reasons. I wish my parents did them but they claim I didn't need them as it was very mild.


And you hope your kid does not undermine that orthodontic treatment like OP's son and my nephew. My nephew didn't even finish his treatment, and never even bothered to wear the retainer they gave him to retain whatever progress they made.

The kid HAS TO WANT treatment or you will be just wasting money.

What are you going to do if your kid undermines their orthodontic treatment?


Maybe kid is not doing it on purpose. We had several broken wires, brackets that broke off and more. Multiple appointments to fix it. We were careful with food. Kid recently lost a retainer. It happens. My kid did not want it. I did not let it be an option. They preferred one ortho over another, we agreed and had them put on same day so they would not have time to be anxious over it. I am happy to waste my money on my kids.


You would love my brother. My parents made him get braces when he didn't want them. Within a week, he got a hold of some pliers and pried off as many brackets as he could and cut up his wires into tiny pieces. Mom marched him back into the orthodontist the very next day to get new braces put back on, but the ortho just took the remaining brackets off, cleaned off the glue, and dropped him as a patient right then and there.
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Anonymous wrote:My kid did not want it. I did not let it be an option.


And we are dealing with a kid here who is doing all he can to take that option anyways.

Anonymous wrote:I am happy to waste my money on my kids.


You sound more interested in having control over your kids than what is in their best interests. This is not healthy.
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Anonymous wrote:Take the braces off. Try again in a few years when/if he’s ready. You can’t force him to do something (painful) with his body that he doesn’t want to do, and you shouldn’t. This isn’t life-saving medical care.


I’m assuming OP already paid in full for the treatment course


Consider it a tax for not respecting bodily autonomy


This is ridiculous! Parents make decisions for their kids that they aren't happy with all the time, including medical decisions! A 13-year-old is too young to understand the consequences of not getting his teeth fixed. Should we just let kids choose not to get vaccines, take showers, eat their vegetables or brush their teeth? Play video games all day instead of doing their homework?

OP, if you have to cancel treatment, then maybe you should have him pay you back that $5,000 plus interest. Maybe a couple of summers of mowing lawns and he will learn not to disrespect your parental efforts.


Absolutely psychotic. Your child is not your slave doll.


Unfortunately, I know a couple of parents like this. It’s the reason my nephew went no contact with his mother after he moved out. Yes, she made him get braces too.



Sometimes you have to force kids to do things they don't want to for their long term good. It really depends on the child and situation. If you don't get them fixed you can have issues later on, like I do and the ortho will not fix them because of other reasons. I wish my parents did them but they claim I didn't need them as it was very mild.


And you hope your kid does not undermine that orthodontic treatment like OP's son and my nephew. My nephew didn't even finish his treatment, and never even bothered to wear the retainer they gave him to retain whatever progress they made.

The kid HAS TO WANT treatment or you will be just wasting money.

What are you going to do if your kid undermines their orthodontic treatment?


Maybe kid is not doing it on purpose. We had several broken wires, brackets that broke off and more. Multiple appointments to fix it. We were careful with food. Kid recently lost a retainer. It happens. My kid did not want it. I did not let it be an option. They preferred one ortho over another, we agreed and had them put on same day so they would not have time to be anxious over it. I am happy to waste my money on my kids.


OP seems to think her son is doing it on purpose. You pretending that no kid has ever deliberately undermined their orthodontic treatment ever is ultimately not helping here.


I’m sure some kids have but broken wires and brackets are common. It happens. Maybe if she were more supportive it would be easier on the kid.


And in this case, being supportive means dropping the whole "for your own good" shtick and allowing him autonomy over his own body. Do you even realize that some kids with autism have hypersensitivities? What you may find merely irritating may very well be intolerable to this kid.

You may think this kid will thank his mom for forcing him through this, but he will remember this as perhaps THE MOST TRAUMATIC THING his mother has ever done to him and it will only breed years of resentment, and maybe even low or no contact with her if he is high-functioning to support himself when he grows up. Lots of people have done just fine in life without their parents turning their teeth into their personal vanity project.
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Anonymous wrote:Take the braces off. Try again in a few years when/if he’s ready. You can’t force him to do something (painful) with his body that he doesn’t want to do, and you shouldn’t. This isn’t life-saving medical care.


I’m assuming OP already paid in full for the treatment course


Consider it a tax for not respecting bodily autonomy


This is ridiculous! Parents make decisions for their kids that they aren't happy with all the time, including medical decisions! A 13-year-old is too young to understand the consequences of not getting his teeth fixed. Should we just let kids choose not to get vaccines, take showers, eat their vegetables or brush their teeth? Play video games all day instead of doing their homework?

OP, if you have to cancel treatment, then maybe you should have him pay you back that $5,000 plus interest. Maybe a couple of summers of mowing lawns and he will learn not to disrespect your parental efforts.


Absolutely psychotic. Your child is not your slave doll.


Unfortunately, I know a couple of parents like this. It’s the reason my nephew went no contact with his mother after he moved out. Yes, she made him get braces too.



Sometimes you have to force kids to do things they don't want to for their long term good. It really depends on the child and situation. If you don't get them fixed you can have issues later on, like I do and the ortho will not fix them because of other reasons. I wish my parents did them but they claim I didn't need them as it was very mild.


And you hope your kid does not undermine that orthodontic treatment like OP's son and my nephew. My nephew didn't even finish his treatment, and never even bothered to wear the retainer they gave him to retain whatever progress they made.

The kid HAS TO WANT treatment or you will be just wasting money.

What are you going to do if your kid undermines their orthodontic treatment?


Maybe kid is not doing it on purpose. We had several broken wires, brackets that broke off and more. Multiple appointments to fix it. We were careful with food. Kid recently lost a retainer. It happens. My kid did not want it. I did not let it be an option. They preferred one ortho over another, we agreed and had them put on same day so they would not have time to be anxious over it. I am happy to waste my money on my kids.


And just what are you going to do when your kid forcefully takes the option you won't let them have?
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I love the posters who say “I did not let that be an option”. They are not dealing with neurodivergent kids.

If it is a nightmare, stop. You can always revisit in the future.

My ASD DS got braces at 13, & I went to the dr the week after to talk about getting them off. It was awful, for a good while. We powered through, but I don’t blame you at all if you take a break.

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Do t take him ofc the soccer team. Do whatever you want with braces, but don’t tie it to the soccer team, sounds like that is going well….I envy you for that, don’t ruin it!
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Anonymous wrote:Take the braces off. Try again in a few years when/if he’s ready. You can’t force him to do something (painful) with his body that he doesn’t want to do, and you shouldn’t. This isn’t life-saving medical care.


I’m assuming OP already paid in full for the treatment course


Consider it a tax for not respecting bodily autonomy


This is ridiculous! Parents make decisions for their kids that they aren't happy with all the time, including medical decisions! A 13-year-old is too young to understand the consequences of not getting his teeth fixed. Should we just let kids choose not to get vaccines, take showers, eat their vegetables or brush their teeth? Play video games all day instead of doing their homework?

OP, if you have to cancel treatment, then maybe you should have him pay you back that $5,000 plus interest. Maybe a couple of summers of mowing lawns and he will learn not to disrespect your parental efforts.


Absolutely psychotic. Your child is not your slave doll.


Unfortunately, I know a couple of parents like this. It’s the reason my nephew went no contact with his mother after he moved out. Yes, she made him get braces too.



Sometimes you have to force kids to do things they don't want to for their long term good. It really depends on the child and situation. If you don't get them fixed you can have issues later on, like I do and the ortho will not fix them because of other reasons. I wish my parents did them but they claim I didn't need them as it was very mild.


And you hope your kid does not undermine that orthodontic treatment like OP's son and my nephew. My nephew didn't even finish his treatment, and never even bothered to wear the retainer they gave him to retain whatever progress they made.

The kid HAS TO WANT treatment or you will be just wasting money.

What are you going to do if your kid undermines their orthodontic treatment?


Maybe kid is not doing it on purpose. We had several broken wires, brackets that broke off and more. Multiple appointments to fix it. We were careful with food. Kid recently lost a retainer. It happens. My kid did not want it. I did not let it be an option. They preferred one ortho over another, we agreed and had them put on same day so they would not have time to be anxious over it. I am happy to waste my money on my kids.


And just what are you going to do when your kid forcefully takes the option you won't let them have?


Kids get away with whatever we let them get away with. If my kid showed such disrespect for the huge investment I am trying to make for him, then he won't be getting anything more than the bare minimum from me. No phones or other electronics. If he needs clothing, there's Goodwill. I won't spend any more extra money on him if he makes me spend thousands of dollars on his teeth just for it to be wasted.
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Anonymous wrote:Take the braces off. Try again in a few years when/if he’s ready. You can’t force him to do something (painful) with his body that he doesn’t want to do, and you shouldn’t. This isn’t life-saving medical care.


I’m assuming OP already paid in full for the treatment course


Consider it a tax for not respecting bodily autonomy


This is ridiculous! Parents make decisions for their kids that they aren't happy with all the time, including medical decisions! A 13-year-old is too young to understand the consequences of not getting his teeth fixed. Should we just let kids choose not to get vaccines, take showers, eat their vegetables or brush their teeth? Play video games all day instead of doing their homework?

OP, if you have to cancel treatment, then maybe you should have him pay you back that $5,000 plus interest. Maybe a couple of summers of mowing lawns and he will learn not to disrespect your parental efforts.


Absolutely psychotic. Your child is not your slave doll.


Unfortunately, I know a couple of parents like this. It’s the reason my nephew went no contact with his mother after he moved out. Yes, she made him get braces too.



Sometimes you have to force kids to do things they don't want to for their long term good. It really depends on the child and situation. If you don't get them fixed you can have issues later on, like I do and the ortho will not fix them because of other reasons. I wish my parents did them but they claim I didn't need them as it was very mild.


And you hope your kid does not undermine that orthodontic treatment like OP's son and my nephew. My nephew didn't even finish his treatment, and never even bothered to wear the retainer they gave him to retain whatever progress they made.

The kid HAS TO WANT treatment or you will be just wasting money.

What are you going to do if your kid undermines their orthodontic treatment?


Maybe kid is not doing it on purpose. We had several broken wires, brackets that broke off and more. Multiple appointments to fix it. We were careful with food. Kid recently lost a retainer. It happens. My kid did not want it. I did not let it be an option. They preferred one ortho over another, we agreed and had them put on same day so they would not have time to be anxious over it. I am happy to waste my money on my kids.


And just what are you going to do when your kid forcefully takes the option you won't let them have?


Kids get away with whatever we let them get away with. If my kid showed such disrespect for the huge investment I am trying to make for him, then he won't be getting anything more than the bare minimum from me. No phones or other electronics. If he needs clothing, there's Goodwill. I won't spend any more extra money on him if he makes me spend thousands of dollars on his teeth just for it to be wasted.


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