Wait, you think people tell the truth during acceptance speeches? |
In this case (knowing the principal who shows up at just about everything and the faculty sponsors who devote a lot of extra time to these activities)? Yes. |
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Yes of course SATs scores are correlated with higher parent income. You are mixing up the cause and effect of the correlation though. Cognitive ability and conscientiousness are causally correlated with income. The traits of the parents that increase income (and enhance academic performance) are transmitted to the children so this causes their offspring to have higher average test scores. So these high achievers should excel despite the overal rating of the school they attend. Basically, Mclean and Langley do not “make” better students. Stronger students tend to enroll in those schools in higher numbers. Your average student will be average at Falls Church or at Oakton. Yes and no. Gifted students might not reach their full potential if they go to a less competitive school. Public school have to teach to lowest common denominator, because they are not allowed to leave any kids behind. For gifted kids, the content will likely be too easy for them a more normal school because there are too many below average students that prevent the class from moving on to more advanced material. I agree completely. I have kids who were AAP (“segregated” with the smart kids) and one non-AAP. This non-AAP is also the only one in post-Covid FCPS. This child’s learning environment is completely different from the older siblings. The LCD in this DS’s classes is disruptive, no impulse control, learning disability, with an assigned aid for aggressive behaviors. It may be anecdotal, but there is no doubt in my mind that my youngest would be much farther ahead academically if the teachers weren’t so challenged every single day. While I also acknowledge that there are twice exceptional students in AAP, these kids are often medicated to a point that in the school day they are less disruptive. Im sure I hit a number of taboos, but it’s been my reality. Teachers know the truth to this. |
What is FCTA? Mind posting the link? |
https://fcta.org/Pubs/Bulletins/2024-04b.pdf |
| Longfellow has been the top middle school for a long time. Significantly better than other middle schools |
So these high achievers should excel despite the overal rating of the school they attend. Basically, Mclean and Langley do not “make” better students. Stronger students tend to enroll in those schools in higher numbers. Your average student will be average at Falls Church or at Oakton. Yes and no. Gifted students might not reach their full potential if they go to a less competitive school. Public school have to teach to lowest common denominator, because they are not allowed to leave any kids behind. For gifted kids, the content will likely be too easy for them a more normal school because there are too many below average students that prevent the class from moving on to more advanced material. I agree completely. I have kids who were AAP (“segregated” with the smart kids) and one non-AAP. This non-AAP is also the only one in post-Covid FCPS. This child’s learning environment is completely different from the older siblings. The LCD in this DS’s classes is disruptive, no impulse control, learning disability, with an assigned aid for aggressive behaviors. It may be anecdotal, but there is no doubt in my mind that my youngest would be much farther ahead academically if the teachers weren’t so challenged every single day. While I also acknowledge that there are twice exceptional students in AAP, these kids are often medicated to a point that in the school day they are less disruptive. Im sure I hit a number of taboos, but it’s been my reality. Teachers know the truth to this. Both of my kids are in AAP. Neither of them are gifted in the true sense of the word-they are certainly above average/smart but neither are off the chart smart. And that is the case for most kids in AAP. And both of them say that the behaviors in their "specials/electives" are crazy and the difference is stark btw the AAP vs. those classes. At least by MS, gen ed kids have the option to take Honors. The gap is really, really widening. The kids at the top are leaving the rest behind. And we should all be concerned. I think a lot of parents are like "well but my kid is with the top kids, so who cares?" We should all care. A society with an enormous income gap is not a good thing. An ignorant populace is not a good thing. I am not a conspiracy nut but at some point we got to ask--is it a feature or a bug? Neither side seems to care. On the right we have the book banning/undermining public schools/vilifying teachers. On the left-no accountability, lowering standards, lack of discipline. The future of public education seems grim in this country. |
So these high achievers should excel despite the overal rating of the school they attend. Basically, Mclean and Langley do not “make” better students. Stronger students tend to enroll in those schools in higher numbers. Your average student will be average at Falls Church or at Oakton. Yes and no. Gifted students might not reach their full potential if they go to a less competitive school. Public school have to teach to lowest common denominator, because they are not allowed to leave any kids behind. For gifted kids, the content will likely be too easy for them a more normal school because there are too many below average students that prevent the class from moving on to more advanced material. I agree completely. I have kids who were AAP (“segregated” with the smart kids) and one non-AAP. This non-AAP is also the only one in post-Covid FCPS. This child’s learning environment is completely different from the older siblings. The LCD in this DS’s classes is disruptive, no impulse control, learning disability, with an assigned aid for aggressive behaviors. It may be anecdotal, but there is no doubt in my mind that my youngest would be much farther ahead academically if the teachers weren’t so challenged every single day. While I also acknowledge that there are twice exceptional students in AAP, these kids are often medicated to a point that in the school day they are less disruptive. Im sure I hit a number of taboos, but it’s been my reality. Teachers know the truth to this. Both of my kids are in AAP. Neither of them are gifted in the true sense of the word-they are certainly above average/smart but neither are off the chart smart. And that is the case for most kids in AAP. And both of them say that the behaviors in their "specials/electives" are crazy and the difference is stark btw the AAP vs. those classes. At least by MS, gen ed kids have the option to take Honors. The gap is really, really widening. The kids at the top are leaving the rest behind. And we should all be concerned. I think a lot of parents are like "well but my kid is with the top kids, so who cares?" We should all care. A society with an enormous income gap is not a good thing. An ignorant populace is not a good thing. I am not a conspiracy nut but at some point we got to ask--is it a feature or a bug? Neither side seems to care. On the right we have the book banning/undermining public schools/vilifying teachers. On the left-no accountability, lowering standards, lack of discipline. The future of public education seems grim in this country. |