Sidwell, 3.93 1570 Junior - T10 prospects?

[Anonymous]

A dime a dozen

[Anonymous]

Top 10 in general or for a particular course of study? We choose a school that is T25 in general but T10 for their major.

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Anonymous wrote:What does the school college counselor say?

The counselor is not going to be useful.....they will only make sure you have reasonable safety schools and will say the obvious that there could be a chance at T10 but it's unpredictable. (This is assuming this person has no hooks.)

But DCUM will be useful?

Seriously, what are you paying for?

Honestly, I learned infinitely more about college landscape from DCUM than I ever learned from Sidwell CCO - We learned zero from them. So - I definitely didn't pay Sidwell for college counseling advice. I paid them for a great education. That's about it. Not much more.

Sidwell CCO is totally useless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kid is non-stem. Why are people so fixated on stem?

The ONLY way to distinguish yourself at Sidwell via rigor is by taking the higher 1A science courses or by taking high level math. This includes the Math I-IV series, but it also includes Calc 1, Calc 2, Linear Algebra, etc.

Humanities course are only offered at one level of rigor (which is high for any required courses).

The reason people are jumping on STEM was OP's comment about not taking Math III/IV. But that doesn't mean the student didn't take Math I/II and I assume by saying they took high rigor it means they must have taken IA science courses.

[Anonymous]

I’m not trying to be a jerk, but there are a lot of kids at Sidwell with SAT scores in that range. In a Sidwell context, which is how he/she will be evaluated, the 1570 is not that much of a differentiator. Sidwell kids applying to T10 schools will have high SAT/ACT scores and typically be submitting many AP scores (including BC calculus) with 5s. Add classmates’ legacy status to this, if your kid is unhooked like mine was, and it’s a tough battle. If OP is a NMSF that tends to count for something extra because it’s viewed as a purer measurement given that it’s just taken once and for many kids it’s the first go at an SAT-like test, and not the product of over the top tutoring and multiple tries. I am trying to be brutally honest with you. My unhooked kid who attended Sidwell is at a T10 Ivy and had >3.95, highest rigor, and higher SAT than OP, all 5s on APs, NMSF and still got deferred in the early round, but eventually in. Go in assuming ED/EA to T10 will not be successful but probably worth a try. Be prepared for what comes after that.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not trying to be a jerk, but there are a lot of kids at Sidwell with SAT scores in that range. In a Sidwell context, which is how he/she will be evaluated, the 1570 is not that much of a differentiator. Sidwell kids applying to T10 schools will have high SAT/ACT scores and typically be submitting many AP scores (including BC calculus) with 5s. Add classmates’ legacy status to this, if your kid is unhooked like mine was, and it’s a tough battle. If OP is a NMSF that tends to count for something extra because it’s viewed as a purer measurement given that it’s just taken once and for many kids it’s the first go at an SAT-like test, and not the product of over the top tutoring and multiple tries. I am trying to be brutally honest with you. My unhooked kid who attended Sidwell is at a T10 Ivy and had >3.95, highest rigor, and higher SAT than OP, all 5s on APs, NMSF and still got deferred in the early round, but eventually in. Go in assuming ED/EA to T10 will not be successful but probably worth a try. Be prepared for what comes after that.

Sounds like a great outcome.

[Anonymous]

SAT is not a great differentiator. Even at 1570. This said, a 3.9+ student may well appear more interesting than a 3.95+, depending on the rest of the application.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not trying to be a jerk, but there are a lot of kids at Sidwell with SAT scores in that range. In a Sidwell context, which is how he/she will be evaluated, the 1570 is not that much of a differentiator. Sidwell kids applying to T10 schools will have high SAT/ACT scores and typically be submitting many AP scores (including BC calculus) with 5s. Add classmates’ legacy status to this, if your kid is unhooked like mine was, and it’s a tough battle. If OP is a NMSF that tends to count for something extra because it’s viewed as a purer measurement given that it’s just taken once and for many kids it’s the first go at an SAT-like test, and not the product of over the top tutoring and multiple tries. I am trying to be brutally honest with you. My unhooked kid who attended Sidwell is at a T10 Ivy and had >3.95, highest rigor, and higher SAT than OP, all 5s on APs, NMSF and still got deferred in the early round, but eventually in. Go in assuming ED/EA to T10 will not be successful but probably worth a try. Be prepared for what comes after that.

This is good advice. But, NMSF, while good, does not have a great impact relative to other strong SAT/ACT scorers. PSAT is just not that important and lots of kids prep for PSAT as well.

[Anonymous]

Your kid is academically qualified for anywhere—as will be 75% of everywhere’s applicants. The question is what institutional need do you fill to take you rather than any of the other 14 academically qualified kids in your bucket.

[Anonymous]

If kid is interested, I’d take a shot at one of the Ivies that just went back to test required. Likely will be less noise without the test optional applicants.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What does the school college counselor say?

The counselor is not going to be useful.....they will only make sure you have reasonable safety schools and will say the obvious that there could be a chance at T10 but it's unpredictable. (This is assuming this person has no hooks.)

But DCUM will be useful?

Seriously, what are you paying for?

Honestly, I learned infinitely more about college landscape from DCUM than I ever learned from Sidwell CCO - We learned zero from them. So - I definitely didn't pay Sidwell for college counseling advice. I paid them for a great education. That's about it. Not much more.

Sidwell CCO is totally useless.

But who really cares? Parents hire outside consultants anyway.

[Anonymous]

For the non Sidwell parents of the world...what is Math III/IV?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If kid is interested, I’d take a shot at one of the Ivies that just went back to test required. Likely will be less noise without the test optional applicants.

Great point

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your kid is academically qualified for anywhere—as will be 75% of everywhere’s applicants. The question is what institutional need do you fill to take you rather than any of the other 14 academically qualified kids in your bucket.

Good point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the non Sidwell parents of the world...what is Math III/IV?

Theoretical math sequence.