Any examples of your child actually using the resources at a ritzy college?

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Anonymous wrote:Often you read parents touting the vast resources at the most selective colleges, funded by multi-billion endowments and pricy tuition. Nobody ever details what those resources actually are and how often they’re used.

Our DD is at a top 10 and the only resource seems to be a boundless amount of staff who email her or forward her to another staff member, who will email her or offer to jump on a zoom, to detail things they will later email her. They don’t really offer bespoke help, they just email her copy and paste text and links into emails. Is this one example of the alleged resources?

I am sorry, but I am tired of all the folks with a kid that attends a Top 10 and expects some VIP level of service with zero effort on behalf of the kid.

My kid attends a top 10 that opened an incredible lab to incubate new student ventures. My kid has attended numerous sessions where they have met the Managing Partner of one of the largest VC firms in the world and met the founder/CEO of a prominent unicorn company (both alums). Both agreed to 30 minute one-on-ones with students that signed up with the lab for announcements and then signed up for these events. My kid now has a nice little back-and-forth with the unicorn company CEO.

My kid is a freshman and this happened just in the 1st semester. My kid appreciates all the other students that don't bother to investigate these events, as mentioned they are not nearly as well attended as one might expect.

Say you go to Stanford without saying you go to Stanford.

[Anonymous]

Kid at HYP now. Amazing resources yes, but it’s not in form of excessive handholding it’s more like opportunities and funding are everywhere if you ask.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids are at top 10 SLACs, and I think they have great access to the resources at their respective schools.

Define resources. More specifically the resources they personally use and which you believe are better than or unavailable at less prestigious colleges.

DP. My kid was at a T30 SLAC. Some of the resources available at T30 not available at a state university included,

- endowment that provided FA/merit aid that allowed my kid to receive world-class education for the price of a state university.

-semester abroad exchange for the same price I was paying.

- endowment that flew my student to the east coast and west coast for networking opportunities with potential employers.

- was able to transfer to a dream ivy university with full support.

- amazing ivy education, thanks to the T30 SLAC and its connection.

- after graduation, my student was pretty much allowed to sign up for a lucrative job.

Please name the "Top 30 SLAC".

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Often you read parents touting the vast resources at the most selective colleges, funded by multi-billion endowments and pricy tuition. Nobody ever details what those resources actually are and how often they’re used.

Our DD is at a top 10 and the only resource seems to be a boundless amount of staff who email her or forward her to another staff member, who will email her or offer to jump on a zoom, to detail things they will later email her. They don’t really offer bespoke help, they just email her copy and paste text and links into emails. Is this one example of the alleged resources?

I am sorry, but I am tired of all the folks with a kid that attends a Top 10 and expects some VIP level of service with zero effort on behalf of the kid.

My kid attends a top 10 that opened an incredible lab to incubate new student ventures. My kid has attended numerous sessions where they have met the Managing Partner of one of the largest VC firms in the world and met the founder/CEO of a prominent unicorn company (both alums). Both agreed to 30 minute one-on-ones with students that signed up with the lab for announcements and then signed up for these events. My kid now has a nice little back-and-forth with the unicorn company CEO.

My kid is a freshman and this happened just in the 1st semester. My kid appreciates all the other students that don't bother to investigate these events, as mentioned they are not nearly as well attended as one might expect.

Say you go to Stanford without saying you go to Stanford.

You are probably the same person that posts this phrase over and over…no, it’s not Stanford

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Anonymous wrote:Does she
Have an advisor who will proactively review her course selections, ensure she on track? (Or is the advisor non existent or hard to schedule (most colleges))
Ever email a professor or advisor indicating that a class she wants at the time she wants is booked... and a space is opened up for her?
Have the opportunity to enter a bespoke mentoring program, matched with an industry professional?
Have access to bespoke international experiences (aside from the semester study abroad that everyone else has), for example winter break in hong kong, spring break in colombia?
Ever have a professor say, if you don't have an internship lined up, just email me, we will find one for you?

I went to HYP and there was nothing like this, and I think this whole list is wildly unrealistic (maybe a one-off once in awhile for a particularly beloved student, but nothing like this for 99%.)

To me “great resources” is not advising or personal services, it’s about an incredible library, amazing art collections, world famous speakers coming to give talks, professors who are top in their field, etc.

Agreed. Plus if your kid puts some effort in to follow the links and follow up with those that sent them you begin to form positive impressions and a network that can help later.

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Anonymous wrote:OP I hate to break it to you but people at Princeton benefiting from the incredible resources there, do not have parent on DCUM and if they do, they don't care to share the information. That's just how it is.

One huge advantage with Princeton is if you take Toni Morrison’s writing class and she likes your work you are essentially guaranteed a book deal.

Or Yale Law, you meet tiger mom and she turns you into a right wing grifter! lol

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Anonymous wrote:Kid at HYP now. Amazing resources yes, but it’s not in form of excessive handholding it’s more like opportunities and funding are everywhere if you ask.

Again no actual examples. Just more vagueness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does she
Have an advisor who will proactively review her course selections, ensure she on track? (Or is the advisor non existent or hard to schedule (most colleges))
Ever email a professor or advisor indicating that a class she wants at the time she wants is booked... and a space is opened up for her?
Have the opportunity to enter a bespoke mentoring program, matched with an industry professional?
Have access to bespoke international experiences (aside from the semester study abroad that everyone else has), for example winter break in hong kong, spring break in colombia?
Ever have a professor say, if you don't have an internship lined up, just email me, we will find one for you?

I went to HYP and there was nothing like this, and I think this whole list is wildly unrealistic (maybe a one-off once in awhile for a particularly beloved student, but nothing like this for 99%.)

To me “great resources” is not advising or personal services, it’s about an incredible library, amazing art collections, world famous speakers coming to give talks, professors who are top in their field, etc.

The “famous speakers” is an insider racket. They are paid big bucks for this. You can watch the same speech YouTube. They give the same speech word for word everywhere. Kids are yawning at them and kids only show up because a professor gives them course credit or they’re brownnosing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does she
Have an advisor who will proactively review her course selections, ensure she on track? (Or is the advisor non existent or hard to schedule (most colleges))
Ever email a professor or advisor indicating that a class she wants at the time she wants is booked... and a space is opened up for her?
Have the opportunity to enter a bespoke mentoring program, matched with an industry professional?
Have access to bespoke international experiences (aside from the semester study abroad that everyone else has), for example winter break in hong kong, spring break in colombia?
Ever have a professor say, if you don't have an internship lined up, just email me, we will find one for you?

I went to HYP and there was nothing like this, and I think this whole list is wildly unrealistic (maybe a one-off once in awhile for a particularly beloved student, but nothing like this for 99%.)

To me “great resources” is not advising or personal services, it’s about an incredible library, amazing art collections, world famous speakers coming to give talks, professors who are top in their field, etc.

The “famous speakers” is an insider racket. They are paid big bucks for this. You can watch the same speech YouTube. They give the same speech word for word everywhere. Kids are yawning at them and kids only show up because a professor gives them course credit or they’re brownnosing.

I went to two graduations in consecutive years and the commencement address was same speaker, same speech! Oy! And one of the schools was MIT so even top schools get the script.

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I went to Yale and didn’t use any of what I assume OP means by “ritzy” resources. Never been inside Beinecke (true for easily 95% of UGs). Didn’t take any of the Law School courses made available to UGs (not sure if that still exists). Didn’t travel the world singing with the Whiffenpoofs or get tapped for Skull & Bones. I do take advantage of the Yale Club, but they let UVA and Cornell grads in, so might as well just loiter in a bathroom stall at Penn Station for all the exclusivity I’m getting.

In short: should have gone to community college and saved a few bucks.

No, silly rabbit! Because obviously the value of an elite UG experience is not based on the shiny toys that may be available.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does she
Have an advisor who will proactively review her course selections, ensure she on track? (Or is the advisor non existent or hard to schedule (most colleges))
Ever email a professor or advisor indicating that a class she wants at the time she wants is booked... and a space is opened up for her?
Have the opportunity to enter a bespoke mentoring program, matched with an industry professional?
Have access to bespoke international experiences (aside from the semester study abroad that everyone else has), for example winter break in hong kong, spring break in colombia?
Ever have a professor say, if you don't have an internship lined up, just email me, we will find one for you?

I went to HYP and there was nothing like this, and I think this whole list is wildly unrealistic (maybe a one-off once in awhile for a particularly beloved student, but nothing like this for 99%.)

To me “great resources” is not advising or personal services, it’s about an incredible library, amazing art collections, world famous speakers coming to give talks, professors who are top in their field, etc.

The “famous speakers” is an insider racket. They are paid big bucks for this. You can watch the same speech YouTube. They give the same speech word for word everywhere. Kids are yawning at them and kids only show up because a professor gives them course credit or they’re brownnosing.

You're way off base. Professors at my Ivy never gave me extra credit for going to anything. That's such an odd assumption. The opportunities are there, and it's up to the students to take advantage of them or not. Some do, some don't. I don't recall anyone yawning. The students were there because they wanted to be there. I remember one world famous speaker and there were way less seats than those who wanted them.

And it's not just lectures either. I recall lunches and cocktails parties with bold names too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kid at HYP now. Amazing resources yes, but it’s not in form of excessive handholding it’s more like opportunities and funding are everywhere if you ask.

Again no actual examples. Just more vagueness.

But opportunities, resources, and funding are amazing at HYP. Stupendous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP I hate to break it to you but people at Princeton benefiting from the incredible resources there, do not have parent on DCUM and if they do, they don't care to share the information. That's just how it is.

One huge advantage with Princeton is if you take Toni Morrison’s writing class and she likes your work you are essentially guaranteed a book deal.

Or Yale Law, you meet tiger mom and she turns you into a right wing grifter! lol

A) that was never true at Princeton and B) a tad difficult now since Toni died in 2019

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does she
Have an advisor who will proactively review her course selections, ensure she on track? (Or is the advisor non existent or hard to schedule (most colleges))
Ever email a professor or advisor indicating that a class she wants at the time she wants is booked... and a space is opened up for her?
Have the opportunity to enter a bespoke mentoring program, matched with an industry professional?
Have access to bespoke international experiences (aside from the semester study abroad that everyone else has), for example winter break in hong kong, spring break in colombia?
Ever have a professor say, if you don't have an internship lined up, just email me, we will find one for you?

I went to HYP and there was nothing like this, and I think this whole list is wildly unrealistic (maybe a one-off once in awhile for a particularly beloved student, but nothing like this for 99%.)

To me “great resources” is not advising or personal services, it’s about an incredible library, amazing art collections, world famous speakers coming to give talks, professors who are top in their field, etc.

The “famous speakers” is an insider racket. They are paid big bucks for this. You can watch the same speech YouTube. They give the same speech word for word everywhere. Kids are yawning at them and kids only show up because a professor gives them course credit or they’re brownnosing.

Not my experience. Hearing Seamus Heaney read his poems was a peak moment for me. I went to talks and readings every week, because I was curious and interested. It truly opened up the world for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Financial aid kid here who went to Duke.

My freshman year, school resources paid for me to take my first two overseas trips (DukeEngage and a student group I joined). My junior year, financial aid supported my semester abroad.

For kids from UMC families, this is probably not important, but as a poor kid who never traveled overseas, it changed my life. I now work in foreign affairs.

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I relate to this. My need-blind, mostly grant-based Ivy meant I graduated debt free. And my semester abroad was pretty much covered by the school.