Hiring: be honest

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Anonymous wrote:When you are interviewing applicants do you take into consideration things that you’re not technically allowed to consider? Like for example the fact that a woman just got married at 35 and is probably going to have children soon and therefore either taking maternity leave or quitting to stay home? Or someone highly qualified has dyed pink hair and therefore may turn off your conservative clients? Just examples. Anonymous forum here so curious about what decision makers are really thinking, especially small business owners where the one hiring is also the one most invested in the success of the company.

Tell me you’re a boomer without telling me…

Wrong.

And Google brings up a lot of stuff, including the applicant’s Knot wedding page.

Well thank god this board is anonymous bc basing a hiring decision on this, is f’ing illegal. But. You already know that don’t you OP.

That doesn’t mean people don’t Google job applicants.

I google everyone. Even the folks in my own company that I'm meeting for the first time. Seriously. I'm looking for connection points and usually find them.

I had so many shady applicants I Google the heck out of them. And read resume closely. Back in the 1970s my mom went in an interview to be a secretary. Was a one minute interview.
Question 1 - do you have a car
Question 2 - anything preventing you from coming to work everyday like kids or husband, long travel time etc.
Question 3 - can you type

My mother replied I live 3 miles away, I own a car, I am newly widowed so no husband and my kids are older with my oldest 19 so no child care issues and no I can’t type.

He responded I can teach you to type but the other stuff I can’t fix when can you start.

Today can’t ask these questions

[Anonymous]

I’m a new millennial to hiring and literally no!! I worry about finding the best fit for our team, that nothing matters! Haha I just want someone smart and articulate that won’t be a jerk it’s usually just how they respond to questions

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a new millennial to hiring and literally no!! I worry about finding the best fit for our team, that nothing matters! Haha I just want someone smart and articulate that won’t be a jerk it’s usually just how they respond to questions

Wait 10 years and come back and tell us what you really think.

I wish I had my youthful blinders, I mean optimism.

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Anonymous wrote:How would I know that someone just got married and plans to have kids soon? I wouldn't ask. If they voluntarily told me this, of course I don't want to hire someone that will soon need to take 3 months or more off, but that's why it's illegal to ask.

How do you tell if someone is 35? I mean I had kids when I was 28. I have friends that had kids at 42.

Very easy to determine age by college graduation date.

As immigrant, plenty of my friends re-did college in the US for an employable degree, graduating at 26-28 is common.

I also know a few ppl graduating at 20 due to AP credit + summer schools.

Ok. But let’s go with 90% of the time, college graduation year reveals your age.

Good reason to omit the graduation date from the resume.
I don't include mine, but this is because I am old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They definitely think “fat” = “lazy”

I don't think fat = lazy but I do think it equals undisciplined. Also, people like dealing with attractive people. Looking good and being in shape is a definite plus for a job applicant. It's a plus in nearly every part of life.

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Anonymous wrote:How would I know that someone just got married and plans to have kids soon? I wouldn't ask. If they voluntarily told me this, of course I don't want to hire someone that will soon need to take 3 months or more off, but that's why it's illegal to ask.

How do you tell if someone is 35? I mean I had kids when I was 28. I have friends that had kids at 42.

Very easy to determine age by college graduation date.

As immigrant, plenty of my friends re-did college in the US for an employable degree, graduating at 26-28 is common.

I also know a few ppl graduating at 20 due to AP credit + summer schools.

Ok. But let’s go with 90% of the time, college graduation year reveals your age.

Good reason to omit the graduation date from the resume.
I don't include mine, but this is because I am old.

Age range is still obvious on resumes because of work history. Omission of college graduation date is itself an indicator of older age IME. Someone once told me I should change my hotmail email, since it marked me as OLD. Gmail = young, hotmail = 40s or older.

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How would I know someone just got married unless they volunteer that information?

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Anonymous wrote:How would I know someone just got married unless they volunteer that information?

Google. Facebook. Instagram. The Knot. Newspaper.

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Anonymous wrote:How would I know that someone just got married and plans to have kids soon? I wouldn't ask. If they voluntarily told me this, of course I don't want to hire someone that will soon need to take 3 months or more off, but that's why it's illegal to ask.

How do you tell if someone is 35? I mean I had kids when I was 28. I have friends that had kids at 42.

Very easy to determine age by college graduation date.

As immigrant, plenty of my friends re-did college in the US for an employable degree, graduating at 26-28 is common.

I also know a few ppl graduating at 20 due to AP credit + summer schools.

Ok. But let’s go with 90% of the time, college graduation year reveals your age.

Good reason to omit the graduation date from the resume.
I don't include mine, but this is because I am old.

Age range is still obvious on resumes because of work history. Omission of college graduation date is itself an indicator of older age IME. Someone once told me I should change my hotmail email, since it marked me as OLD. Gmail = young, hotmail = 40s or older.

My graduation date makes me seem about 5 years younger than I am because I finished my degree late.

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Anonymous wrote:How would I know that someone just got married and plans to have kids soon? I wouldn't ask. If they voluntarily told me this, of course I don't want to hire someone that will soon need to take 3 months or more off, but that's why it's illegal to ask.

How do you tell if someone is 35? I mean I had kids when I was 28. I have friends that had kids at 42.

Very easy to determine age by college graduation date.

As immigrant, plenty of my friends re-did college in the US for an employable degree, graduating at 26-28 is common.

I also know a few ppl graduating at 20 due to AP credit + summer schools.

Ok. But let’s go with 90% of the time, college graduation year reveals your age.

And thats why people are now being told to remove the year, so people like you can't use it as ammunition to not hire them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They definitely think “fat” = “lazy”

I don't think fat = lazy but I do think it equals undisciplined. Also, people like dealing with attractive people. Looking good and being in shape is a definite plus for a job applicant. It's a plus in nearly every part of life.

Wow

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Just googled my name(s) to see if I come up. My linkedin comes up, but mixed in with all the other people with similar names.

Good riddance to you bad hiring managers.

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Anonymous wrote:How would I know that someone just got married and plans to have kids soon? I wouldn't ask. If they voluntarily told me this, of course I don't want to hire someone that will soon need to take 3 months or more off, but that's why it's illegal to ask.

How do you tell if someone is 35? I mean I had kids when I was 28. I have friends that had kids at 42.

Very easy to determine age by college graduation date.

As immigrant, plenty of my friends re-did college in the US for an employable degree, graduating at 26-28 is common.

I also know a few ppl graduating at 20 due to AP credit + summer schools.

Ok. But let’s go with 90% of the time, college graduation year reveals your age.

And thats why people are now being told to remove the year, so people like you can't use it as ammunition to not hire them.

People will know your approximate age when they see you.

[Anonymous]

Marital status does not count as a protected class in about half of the US states. Even when it does, it often depends upon the size of the company (must have more than X employees).

Hair style and being fat/thin are also not protected classes.

I would consider all of these when hiring, depending upon the position. (Marital status is not protected in my state.) If you are stacking boxes in a warehouse, I don't care what you look like. If you are in a public-facing position, I want someone who looks professional.

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Anonymous wrote:Marital status does not count as a protected class in about half of the US states. Even when it does, it often depends upon the size of the company (must have more than X employees).

Hair style and being fat/thin are also not protected classes.

I would consider all of these when hiring, depending upon the position. (Marital status is not protected in my state.) If you are stacking boxes in a warehouse, I don't care what you look like. If you are in a public-facing position, I want someone who looks professional.

Do you think that being fat looks unprofessional? No snark; genuinely interested in your answer.

For what positions do you consider marital status?

Thanks.