Moving to MCPS for 6th grade

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids did/do an MCPS language immersion program for K-5, then private for MS, then MCPS for HS. Working out great for our 3 kids.

This is really the best way. There are a number of great private middle school programs in Bethesda (WES, Norwood, St. Jane de Chantal).

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Anonymous wrote:If people want more support in the school system, I’m sure they’ll fund a tax increase to be able to pay for additional resources or they will change their expectations for what MCPS should need to provide. For instance less magnet and special programs, less equitably is access to special programs because transportation won’t be provided, very specific limits and allocations of special education services, etc. etc.

Or MCPS could reduce the insane number of central office staff and put that money toward educating students.

The vast majority of MCPS money is put toward educating students. That's a fact,

A fact that says almost nothing. Here's another fact. MCPS has almost as many non-teacher staff as teachers. This is insane.

Students 160,554
Teachers 13,994
Staff 25,232

Every school system has almost as many non-teacher staff as teachers.
You truly don't know how the world works.
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False. Look at Ffx Co. They have half the number of staff as MCPS.

Students 178,479
Teachers 13,199
Staff 5,878

And where is the kindness and tolerance? Hypocrite.

I think you're not comparing accurately.

I am.

Sources?

MCPS and Ffx Co wiki which are taken from the MCPS and Ffx Co websites.

You do know what FTE means, right ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If people want more support in the school system, I’m sure they’ll fund a tax increase to be able to pay for additional resources or they will change their expectations for what MCPS should need to provide. For instance less magnet and special programs, less equitably is access to special programs because transportation won’t be provided, very specific limits and allocations of special education services, etc. etc.

Or MCPS could reduce the insane number of central office staff and put that money toward educating students.

The vast majority of MCPS money is put toward educating students. That's a fact,

A fact that says almost nothing. Here's another fact. MCPS has almost as many non-teacher staff as teachers. This is insane.

Students 160,554
Teachers 13,994
Staff 25,232

Every school system has almost as many non-teacher staff as teachers.
You truly don't know how the world works.
Idiot

False. Look at Ffx Co. They have half the number of staff as MCPS.

Students 178,479
Teachers 13,199
Staff 5,878

And where is the kindness and tolerance? Hypocrite.

I think you're not comparing accurately.

I am.

Sources?

MCPS and Ffx Co wiki which are taken from the MCPS and Ffx Co websites.

You do know what FTE means, right ?

Yep. And the number say 11,238 non-teacher staff in MoCo vs 5878 non-teacher staff in Ffx Co. Somehow the school district with more students is doing it with about half the non-teacher staff. So much waste here in MoCo and the super is just making it worse

[Anonymous]

Let’s just look at what each reports:

FCPS By the Numbers: https://www.fcps.edu/sharing-our-success. (Scroll down to it)

MCPs by the number: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/about/ataglance20231106.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s just look at what each reports:

FCPS By the Numbers: https://www.fcps.edu/sharing-our-success. (Scroll down to it)

MCPs by the number: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/about/ataglance20231106.pdf

FCPS:


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Anonymous wrote:Let’s just look at what each reports:

FCPS By the Numbers: https://www.fcps.edu/sharing-our-success. (Scroll down to it)

MCPs by the number: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/about/ataglance20231106.pdf

FCPS:


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Take the period off the end.

https://www.fcps.edu/sharing-our-success

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s just look at what each reports:

FCPS By the Numbers: https://www.fcps.edu/sharing-our-success. (Scroll down to it)

MCPs by the number: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/about/ataglance20231106.pdf

Hmmm. It looks like the numbers posted on Ffx Co's wiki page are way off. I guess both districts are bloated with non-teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:If people want more support in the school system, I’m sure they’ll fund a tax increase to be able to pay for additional resources or they will change their expectations for what MCPS should need to provide. For instance less magnet and special programs, less equitably is access to special programs because transportation won’t be provided, very specific limits and allocations of special education services, etc. etc.

Or MCPS could reduce the insane number of central office staff and put that money toward educating students.

The vast majority of MCPS money is put toward educating students. That's a fact,

A fact that says almost nothing. Here's another fact. MCPS has almost as many non-teacher staff as teachers. This is insane.

Students 160,554
Teachers 13,994
Staff 25,232

Every school system has almost as many non-teacher staff as teachers.
You truly don't know how the world works.
Idiot

False. Look at Ffx Co. They have half the number of staff as MCPS.

Students 178,479
Teachers 13,199
Staff 5,878

And where is the kindness and tolerance? Hypocrite.

I think you're not comparing accurately.

I am.

Sources?

MCPS and Ffx Co wiki which are taken from the MCPS and Ffx Co websites.

Links?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s just look at what each reports:

FCPS By the Numbers: https://www.fcps.edu/sharing-our-success. (Scroll down to it)

MCPs by the number: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/about/ataglance20231106.pdf

Hmmm. It looks like the numbers posted on Ffx Co's wiki page are way off. I guess both districts are bloated with non-teachers.

Perhaps that's what it takes to run a large school system - all those other people: bus drivers, paras, lunch and recess, security, maintenance, counselors, speech therapists, OT, PT, psychologists, librarians, IT staff. Lots of people involved outside classroom teachers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If people want more support in the school system, I’m sure they’ll fund a tax increase to be able to pay for additional resources or they will change their expectations for what MCPS should need to provide. For instance less magnet and special programs, less equitably is access to special programs because transportation won’t be provided, very specific limits and allocations of special education services, etc. etc.

Or MCPS could reduce the insane number of central office staff and put that money toward educating students.

The vast majority of MCPS money is put toward educating students. That's a fact,

Wrong. The majority (90%) goes to salaries, pensions and health care for the employees of MCPS. Not the same thing as going to the kids

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s just look at what each reports:

FCPS By the Numbers: https://www.fcps.edu/sharing-our-success. (Scroll down to it)

MCPs by the number: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/about/ataglance20231106.pdf

Hmmm. It looks like the numbers posted on Ffx Co's wiki page are way off. I guess both districts are bloated with non-teachers.

Perhaps that's what it takes to run a large school system - all those other people: bus drivers, paras, lunch and recess, security, maintenance, counselors, speech therapists, OT, PT, psychologists, librarians, IT staff. Lots of people involved outside classroom teachers.

Perhaps. More likely these large school systems have become make-work programs for educators who can't or don't want to educate. I've asked the same question in a dozen threads and no one can answer: how many central office employees are there? 100? 500? 1000?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If people want more support in the school system, I’m sure they’ll fund a tax increase to be able to pay for additional resources or they will change their expectations for what MCPS should need to provide. For instance less magnet and special programs, less equitably is access to special programs because transportation won’t be provided, very specific limits and allocations of special education services, etc. etc.

Or MCPS could reduce the insane number of central office staff and put that money toward educating students.

The vast majority of MCPS money is put toward educating students. That's a fact,

Wrong. The majority (90%) goes to salaries, pensions and health care for the employees of MCPS. Not the same thing as going to the kids

Hmm. Maybe "the employees of MCPS" are somehow connected to educating students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If people want more support in the school system, I’m sure they’ll fund a tax increase to be able to pay for additional resources or they will change their expectations for what MCPS should need to provide. For instance less magnet and special programs, less equitably is access to special programs because transportation won’t be provided, very specific limits and allocations of special education services, etc. etc.

Or MCPS could reduce the insane number of central office staff and put that money toward educating students.

The vast majority of MCPS money is put toward educating students. That's a fact,

Wrong. The majority (90%) goes to salaries, pensions and health care for the employees of MCPS. Not the same thing as going to the kids

Hmm. Maybe "the employees of MCPS" are somehow connected to educating students.

Keyword is somehow. If it's not obvious what the connection is, the position should be eliminated. For instance the entire equity unit should be folded. At best it's a waste of millions of dollars and thousands of hours a year. At worst, it's pushing anti-white racism. How many more MCPS departments and positions are like this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s just look at what each reports:

FCPS By the Numbers: https://www.fcps.edu/sharing-our-success. (Scroll down to it)

MCPs by the number: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/about/ataglance20231106.pdf

Hmmm. It looks like the numbers posted on Ffx Co's wiki page are way off. I guess both districts are bloated with non-teachers.

Perhaps that's what it takes to run a large school system - all those other people: bus drivers, paras, lunch and recess, security, maintenance, counselors, speech therapists, OT, PT, psychologists, librarians, IT staff. Lots of people involved outside classroom teachers.

Perhaps. More likely these large school systems have become make-work programs for educators who can't or don't want to educate. I've asked the same question in a dozen threads and no one can answer: how many central office employees are there? 100? 500? 1000?

How do you define "central office"? Many people work both. Some are listed as central office but spend time in schools. How would you count the food people working in "central office" that are making 100,000 meals to be delivered to schools every day?

You can dig through it all here: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/budget/fy2025_recommendedbudget.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s just look at what each reports:

FCPS By the Numbers: https://www.fcps.edu/sharing-our-success. (Scroll down to it)

MCPs by the number: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/about/ataglance20231106.pdf

Hmmm. It looks like the numbers posted on Ffx Co's wiki page are way off. I guess both districts are bloated with non-teachers.

thanks

15788 teachers
39409 employees -- does this figure include employees?

MCPS 25,232 employees, includes teachers

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/about/