APS school lockdowns

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A major reason school districts are reluctant to suspend (other than in-school suspensions) is the question of where that kid will go during the day(s). Home isn’t necessarily a great idea. Now that I think of it, this would be a great job for all those over-staffed depts at Syphax.

Not buying it. They had no problem with kids staying home during COVID.

I would hope you could see a difference between kids staying home during covid and a kid making a threat to the school or to a specific kid and the school being like "no more school for you!" and sending them home to stew in their anger and violent thoughts with possible access to weapons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If there is a threat of children being harmed in school, why are administrators forcing children to stay in school (either through lockdown or secure the school), rather than evacuating the school? I’d rather my kid not be a sitting duck.

So you think they should have a mass evacuation of 1200 students while there is a potential of an active shooter on campus? Are you nuts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If there is a threat of children being harmed in school, why are administrators forcing children to stay in school (either through lockdown or secure the school), rather than evacuating the school? I’d rather my kid not be a sitting duck.

So you think they should have a mass evacuation of 1200 students while there is a potential of an active shooter on campus? Are you nuts?

Yep, I’d rather my kid have a chance of getting to safety than be certain of getting killed with a perpetrator in the classroom. Same thing if there’s a bomb or knife. People who have some distance between themselves and the attacker have greater odds of survival. Forcing kids to stay in the vicinity of the attacker just gives the attacker more targets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A major reason school districts are reluctant to suspend (other than in-school suspensions) is the question of where that kid will go during the day(s). Home isn’t necessarily a great idea. Now that I think of it, this would be a great job for all those over-staffed depts at Syphax.

Not buying it. They had no problem with kids staying home during COVID.

I would hope you could see a difference between kids staying home during covid and a kid making a threat to the school or to a specific kid and the school being like "no more school for you!" and sending them home to stew in their anger and violent thoughts with possible access to weapons.

Same as it used to be - swift removal from mainstream classrooms to alternative small school with psych etc support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If there is a threat of children being harmed in school, why are administrators forcing children to stay in school (either through lockdown or secure the school), rather than evacuating the school? I’d rather my kid not be a sitting duck.

So you think they should have a mass evacuation of 1200 students while there is a potential of an active shooter on campus? Are you nuts?

Yep, I’d rather my kid have a chance of getting to safety than be certain of getting killed with a perpetrator in the classroom. Same thing if there’s a bomb or knife. People who have some distance between themselves and the attacker have greater odds of survival. Forcing kids to stay in the vicinity of the attacker just gives the attacker more targets.

So instead, we should give the attacker the opportunity to open fire on 1200 people fleeing the building, and give them advance warning of this plan (they would hear the announcement being made). Yep, that is much safer. Not.

[Anonymous]

I stand by the greater distance between my kid and the perpetrator, the greater the odds of survival. Chances are 1,200 kids aren’t all fleeing out of the same door and the perpetrator can’t be in more than one place at a time. Trying to escape is better than being forced to remain in the same room as the perpetrator. It’s possible kids could try to disarm the attacker, but I’d rather my kid flee than directly confront the person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A major reason school districts are reluctant to suspend (other than in-school suspensions) is the question of where that kid will go during the day(s). Home isn’t necessarily a great idea. Now that I think of it, this would be a great job for all those over-staffed depts at Syphax.

Not buying it. They had no problem with kids staying home during COVID.

I would hope you could see a difference between kids staying home during covid and a kid making a threat to the school or to a specific kid and the school being like "no more school for you!" and sending them home to stew in their anger and violent thoughts with possible access to weapons.

You don't think kids were stewing in anger and violent thoughts with possible access to weapons when they were doing virtual school???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A major reason school districts are reluctant to suspend (other than in-school suspensions) is the question of where that kid will go during the day(s). Home isn’t necessarily a great idea. Now that I think of it, this would be a great job for all those over-staffed depts at Syphax.

Not buying it. They had no problem with kids staying home during COVID.

I would hope you could see a difference between kids staying home during covid and a kid making a threat to the school or to a specific kid and the school being like "no more school for you!" and sending them home to stew in their anger and violent thoughts with possible access to weapons.

Same as it used to be - swift removal from mainstream classrooms to alternative small school with psych etc support.

I agree that would be best. We don’t have that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A major reason school districts are reluctant to suspend (other than in-school suspensions) is the question of where that kid will go during the day(s). Home isn’t necessarily a great idea. Now that I think of it, this would be a great job for all those over-staffed depts at Syphax.

Not buying it. They had no problem with kids staying home during COVID.

I would hope you could see a difference between kids staying home during covid and a kid making a threat to the school or to a specific kid and the school being like "no more school for you!" and sending them home to stew in their anger and violent thoughts with possible access to weapons.

Same as it used to be - swift removal from mainstream classrooms to alternative small school with psych etc support.

I agree that would be best. We don’t have that.

I don't think we ever had that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A major reason school districts are reluctant to suspend (other than in-school suspensions) is the question of where that kid will go during the day(s). Home isn’t necessarily a great idea. Now that I think of it, this would be a great job for all those over-staffed depts at Syphax.

Not buying it. They had no problem with kids staying home during COVID.

I would hope you could see a difference between kids staying home during covid and a kid making a threat to the school or to a specific kid and the school being like "no more school for you!" and sending them home to stew in their anger and violent thoughts with possible access to weapons.

Same as it used to be - swift removal from mainstream classrooms to alternative small school with psych etc support.

I agree that would be best. We don’t have that.

I don't think we ever had that.

It’s been a while, but yes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Was it a lock down? Or a secure the building? There’s a difference and the words matter A LOT.

It was a lock down. My kid was in a closet

Wow
That is so scary

They also didn’t let them get backpacks so they had no keys or phone

this is a big downside to the no phone policy. blame the loud parents who were so adamant about kids not having phones on them

in a lockdown, i want my kids to be able to text police and me

in a lockdown, the last thing you want is for your child to be texting you and police. You want the kids attention on the teachers and you don't want notifications that are alerting someone to where your children are hiding.

have your kids actually been in a lockdown. mine have and they and i were very glad they had their phones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was it a lock down? Or a secure the building? There’s a difference and the words matter A LOT.

It was a lock down. My kid was in a closet

Wow
That is so scary

They also didn’t let them get backpacks so they had no keys or phone

this is a big downside to the no phone policy. blame the loud parents who were so adamant about kids not having phones on them

in a lockdown, i want my kids to be able to text police and me

in a lockdown, the last thing you want is for your child to be texting you and police. You want the kids attention on the teachers and you don't want notifications that are alerting someone to where your children are hiding.

have your kids actually been in a lockdown. mine have and they and i were very glad they had their phones.

In a massive situation like this, it isn't about just you and your kids. Hearing from your kids allays your anxieties; but during the lockdown, it is not necessarily the safest for your child or those around them. I'd rather be anxious from not knowing for a while longer than further jeopardize the safety of my kids or their friends and teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A major reason school districts are reluctant to suspend (other than in-school suspensions) is the question of where that kid will go during the day(s). Home isn’t necessarily a great idea. Now that I think of it, this would be a great job for all those over-staffed depts at Syphax.

Not buying it. They had no problem with kids staying home during COVID.

I would hope you could see a difference between kids staying home during covid and a kid making a threat to the school or to a specific kid and the school being like "no more school for you!" and sending them home to stew in their anger and violent thoughts with possible access to weapons.

You don't think kids were stewing in anger and violent thoughts with possible access to weapons when they were doing virtual school???

No but you clearly were. You need to get over your bitterness about Covid. Get therapy please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was it a lock down? Or a secure the building? There’s a difference and the words matter A LOT.

It was a lock down. My kid was in a closet

Wow
That is so scary

They also didn’t let them get backpacks so they had no keys or phone

this is a big downside to the no phone policy. blame the loud parents who were so adamant about kids not having phones on them

in a lockdown, i want my kids to be able to text police and me

in a lockdown, the last thing you want is for your child to be texting you and police. You want the kids attention on the teachers and you don't want notifications that are alerting someone to where your children are hiding.

have your kids actually been in a lockdown. mine have and they and i were very glad they had their phones.

In a massive situation like this, it isn't about just you and your kids. Hearing from your kids allays your anxieties; but during the lockdown, it is not necessarily the safest for your child or those around them. I'd rather be anxious from not knowing for a while longer than further jeopardize the safety of my kids or their friends and teachers.

Again have your kids been in this situation? You don't really know what you're talking about. It is really helpful for their mental health for them to be able to text parents and loved ones. They also use their phones to find out what it going on. And to contact law enforcement.

And as to your point about notifications, they all know how to silence their phones.
It sounds like you are pretty clueless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was it a lock down? Or a secure the building? There’s a difference and the words matter A LOT.

It was a lock down. My kid was in a closet

Wow
That is so scary

They also didn’t let them get backpacks so they had no keys or phone

this is a big downside to the no phone policy. blame the loud parents who were so adamant about kids not having phones on them

in a lockdown, i want my kids to be able to text police and me

in a lockdown, the last thing you want is for your child to be texting you and police. You want the kids attention on the teachers and you don't want notifications that are alerting someone to where your children are hiding.

have your kids actually been in a lockdown. mine have and they and i were very glad they had their phones.

In a massive situation like this, it isn't about just you and your kids. Hearing from your kids allays your anxieties; but during the lockdown, it is not necessarily the safest for your child or those around them. I'd rather be anxious from not knowing for a while longer than further jeopardize the safety of my kids or their friends and teachers.

Again have your kids been in this situation? You don't really know what you're talking about. It is really helpful for their mental health for them to be able to text parents and loved ones. They also use their phones to find out what it going on. And to contact law enforcement.

And as to your point about notifications, they all know how to silence their phones.
It sounds like you are pretty clueless.

Excuse me? NP here. I huddle in the dark with your kids several times each year for these drills, and in order for all of us to get home to our families (heaven forbid), they can’t all be on their phones. You can suck it up for a bit and wait to hear from them; we can’t have 20-30 people on their phones during an emergency. And “as to your point” about how “they all know how to silence their notifications,” you have either waaaaay too much confidence in large groups of kids, or far too little knowledge about lockdown procedures.

And if you don’t like having this going on, help us make it so any unstable 18 year old can’t just walk in to a store and buy a weapon of war.