‘There is a fentanyl problem here': 9 overdoses reported at Loudoun County high school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Park View Parent, have you thought of using special permission to send your child to a different high school? If not, why not?

This problem isn’t focused just at PVHS. It’s a nationwide issue. Just today on WTOP there was an article about opioids in Montgomery County teens: https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/11/treatment-prevention-action-montgomery-county-town-hall-on-the-opioid-crisis-generates-suggested-solutions/

My friends’ kids at more affluent schools in Loudoun report kids vaping cannabis in the bathrooms and taking other drugs. While the overdoses at Park View certainly show there is drug use (and someone dealing a lethal fentanyl laced drug) there, it’s happening at high schools everywhere.

It’s significantly worse at Park View and other poor schools. The facts are clear.

[Anonymous]

If parents decline medical transport for suspected drug use, incidents never make it into the data tables. That kind of th8ng happens more at affluent schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If parents decline medical transport for suspected drug use, incidents never make it into the data tables. That kind of th8ng happens more at affluent schools.

The parent doesn’t have to decline. If the child is over 14 they can decline and do. They stay at school after their OD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That is so sad.
The school is largely low income and Hispanic. These schools need more resources.
My kids attend a school with similar demographics, and those kids could use so much more help in life than they are getting.

Park View was solid middle class school in 90's. Due to overwhelming immigration it has gone downhill. Directly related to the immigration pushed by both republicans and democrats.

none of the democrats ever show up at these schools but they continue to push open borders.

So, do you avoid hispanic service providers in protest of these policies? You don't go to restaurants or any businesses that may hire hispanic cleaners, don't have a cleaning service, don't hire anyone to work on or around your home, don't go anywhere that hires landscapers, don't buy produce that has been picked by hispanic workers, etc.? I'm not sure how you function in life. YOU (and everyone around you) are driving the demand for the work that immigrants provide at a very low cost. Send them home and see how your prices on just about everything skyrocket even further than they already have.

Racist pig.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you think parental behavior will change to such an extent that student behavior will change, if the emails say the incident was an overdose?

"Hey, someone overdosed at your school today. Don't be an idiot and take pills that might kill you."

"Okay, Mom, I won't."

Parents should already be having these conversations with their kids, who will either listen or not. An email won't make a measurable difference.

No. The point is to make parents aware of what the signs are if their child is on drugs or how to respond if their kid OD’s at home. This community mostly speaks Spanish. They don’t have the awareness of fentanyl and how drugs now are a very different level of risk than regular kid experimentation. The parents simply need to be aware of what this looks like so they can respond as well if their child has a medical emergency at home or outside of school. They don’t realize themselves how deadly just one pill can be.

They don't realize the dangers of drugs because they speak Spanish? That's absurd and insulting. The schools have been hosting info sessions about this, and they send it out in Spanish as well as English. https://www.lcps.org/cms/lib/VA01000195/Centricity/domain/28227/flyers/OpioidsWhat%20youneedtoknowENG%20SPA.pdf

You don’t get it. A lot of these parents work 2-3 jobs. They don’t always have the ability to attend these information sessions. Their access to email is different than yours - they’re not sitting at a desk job all day. Their data gets cut off so if they don’t have wifi they don’t read their email. They know there’s drugs. These drugs are different. White Ashburn parents are in denial about these drugs, ok?

To the person who asked why wouldn’t someone just special permission their kid to another school- ridiculous. There’s a lot to live about this school . Special permissions isn’t the answer. The answer is LCPS reviewing their policies around drugs in schools to help schools combat an issue they ALL face.

The parents know. They aren't clueless and their neighbors are talking about it. Their kids are talking about it. I agree with your point about special permission. My kids went to different schools via special permission. They were never guaranteed a spot, they could be kicked out at any point and I had to manage their transportation. Try that as a working parent where no one from your neighborhood is attending that school. Also the school they special permission in to can't be at or over capacity. The vast majority of the schools they'd want to move to are over capacity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is from school board member Ian Sorotkin's FB page.

"Fentanyl is a national crisis, and one that we are not immune to in Loudoun County. What we need right now isn’t election eve politics, it’s help. The issue of fentanyl in our schools has been on our radar for some time. LCPS held six informational sessions on the matter last spring in collaboration with the Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office and has been intentional about awareness and education in numerous newsletters, messages, and press releases. We now have Naloxone in all schools and have staff at each school trained in its use.

LCPS has protocols and supports in place when we discover that individual students are struggling with drug use. Those protocols offer support and resources to the student and their family. That said, supports for juveniles suffering with addiction issues are few and far between, waitlists are long, and treatment is often cost prohibitive. Now is the time to come together as a community and right that wrong. Our kids deserve better, and it is up to us to do better for them."

This. It is clear LCPS is trying to do everything they can to deal with this very difficult situation. The nut jobs make it sound like there is some magic wand to fix this or they think staging 500 cops inside the schools and turning them in to prisons would be better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is from school board member Ian Sorotkin's FB page.

"Fentanyl is a national crisis, and one that we are not immune to in Loudoun County. What we need right now isn’t election eve politics, it’s help. The issue of fentanyl in our schools has been on our radar for some time. LCPS held six informational sessions on the matter last spring in collaboration with the Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office and has been intentional about awareness and education in numerous newsletters, messages, and press releases. We now have Naloxone in all schools and have staff at each school trained in its use.

LCPS has protocols and supports in place when we discover that individual students are struggling with drug use. Those protocols offer support and resources to the student and their family. That said, supports for juveniles suffering with addiction issues are few and far between, waitlists are long, and treatment is often cost prohibitive. Now is the time to come together as a community and right that wrong. Our kids deserve better, and it is up to us to do better for them."

This. It is clear LCPS is trying to do everything they can to deal with this very difficult situation. The nut jobs make it sound like there is some magic wand to fix this or they think staging 500 cops inside the schools and turning them in to prisons would be better.

I’m an LCPS teacher. No, LCPS is NOT doing everything they can to help this. Not at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you think parental behavior will change to such an extent that student behavior will change, if the emails say the incident was an overdose?

"Hey, someone overdosed at your school today. Don't be an idiot and take pills that might kill you."

"Okay, Mom, I won't."

Parents should already be having these conversations with their kids, who will either listen or not. An email won't make a measurable difference.

No. The point is to make parents aware of what the signs are if their child is on drugs or how to respond if their kid OD’s at home. This community mostly speaks Spanish. They don’t have the awareness of fentanyl and how drugs now are a very different level of risk than regular kid experimentation. The parents simply need to be aware of what this looks like so they can respond as well if their child has a medical emergency at home or outside of school. They don’t realize themselves how deadly just one pill can be.

They don't realize the dangers of drugs because they speak Spanish? That's absurd and insulting. The schools have been hosting info sessions about this, and they send it out in Spanish as well as English. https://www.lcps.org/cms/lib/VA01000195/Centricity/domain/28227/flyers/OpioidsWhat%20youneedtoknowENG%20SPA.pdf

You don’t get it. A lot of these parents work 2-3 jobs. They don’t always have the ability to attend these information sessions. Their access to email is different than yours - they’re not sitting at a desk job all day. Their data gets cut off so if they don’t have wifi they don’t read their email. They know there’s drugs. These drugs are different. White Ashburn parents are in denial about these drugs, ok?

To the person who asked why wouldn’t someone just special permission their kid to another school- ridiculous. There’s a lot to live about this school . Special permissions isn’t the answer. The answer is LCPS reviewing their policies around drugs in schools to help schools combat an issue they ALL face.

The parents know. They aren't clueless and their neighbors are talking about it. Their kids are talking about it. I agree with your point about special permission. My kids went to different schools via special permission. They were never guaranteed a spot, they could be kicked out at any point and I had to manage their transportation. Try that as a working parent where no one from your neighborhood is attending that school. Also the school they special permission in to can't be at or over capacity. The vast majority of the schools they'd want to move to are over capacity.

Its only year by year in elementary school. For middle school you get to stay through the end of middle school and same for high school. The list of schools projected to be overenrolled changes every year, but once you are in, you are in as long as you file your paperwork on time. I would not send my child to Park View. We are at Dominion and its bad enough.

[Anonymous]

Nobody asked any of you if you’d send your kid to Park View.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody asked any of you if you’d send your kid to Park View.

Is a discussion board and its a fair topic for discussion. We are highly considering leaving Dominion over this. I can't imagine staying at Park View if I had any other choice. Its simply not accurate to act like all schools are "the same."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nobody asked any of you if you’d send your kid to Park View.

Is a discussion board and its a fair topic for discussion. We are highly considering leaving Dominion over this. I can't imagine staying at Park View if I had any other choice. Its simply not accurate to act like all schools are "the same."

You don’t go to Park View and aren’t considering it. This isn’t a question that was asked of you. So making it a point to say you wouldn’t send your kid there is crappy when 1600 kids DO go there. This isn’t a thread about you or your kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nobody asked any of you if you’d send your kid to Park View.

Is a discussion board and its a fair topic for discussion. We are highly considering leaving Dominion over this. I can't imagine staying at Park View if I had any other choice. Its simply not accurate to act like all schools are "the same."

You don’t go to Park View and aren’t considering it. This isn’t a question that was asked of you. So making it a point to say you wouldn’t send your kid there is crappy when 1600 kids DO go there. This isn’t a thread about you or your kid.

This thread is about LCPS, not just PVHS. Not all of the families have the ability to leave but some do and absolutely should. The Loudoun special permission process is as lenient and family friendly as they come. You can leave your kid at Park View if you want, but the student body makeup isn’t going to change. I have one about to graduate Dominion, I’ve seen it rapidly deteriorate and I highly doubt her sibling will end up going there, for the same exact reasons I wouldn’t go to Park View. Parents should know they have options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is from school board member Ian Sorotkin's FB page.

"Fentanyl is a national crisis, and one that we are not immune to in Loudoun County. What we need right now isn’t election eve politics, it’s help. The issue of fentanyl in our schools has been on our radar for some time. LCPS held six informational sessions on the matter last spring in collaboration with the Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office and has been intentional about awareness and education in numerous newsletters, messages, and press releases. We now have Naloxone in all schools and have staff at each school trained in its use.

LCPS has protocols and supports in place when we discover that individual students are struggling with drug use. Those protocols offer support and resources to the student and their family. That said, supports for juveniles suffering with addiction issues are few and far between, waitlists are long, and treatment is often cost prohibitive. Now is the time to come together as a community and right that wrong. Our kids deserve better, and it is up to us to do better for them."

This. It is clear LCPS is trying to do everything they can to deal with this very difficult situation. The nut jobs make it sound like there is some magic wand to fix this or they think staging 500 cops inside the schools and turning them in to prisons would be better.

I’m an LCPS teacher. No, LCPS is NOT doing everything they can to help this. Not at all.

Wow is that right?
This is scary.
Where do you think most of it takes place inside the school? Is it in open view to kids in school? Can they see whoever is doing it?
I am SO scared of exposure to other kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is from school board member Ian Sorotkin's FB page.

"Fentanyl is a national crisis, and one that we are not immune to in Loudoun County. What we need right now isn’t election eve politics, it’s help. The issue of fentanyl in our schools has been on our radar for some time. LCPS held six informational sessions on the matter last spring in collaboration with the Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office and has been intentional about awareness and education in numerous newsletters, messages, and press releases. We now have Naloxone in all schools and have staff at each school trained in its use.

LCPS has protocols and supports in place when we discover that individual students are struggling with drug use. Those protocols offer support and resources to the student and their family. That said, supports for juveniles suffering with addiction issues are few and far between, waitlists are long, and treatment is often cost prohibitive. Now is the time to come together as a community and right that wrong. Our kids deserve better, and it is up to us to do better for them."

This. It is clear LCPS is trying to do everything they can to deal with this very difficult situation. The nut jobs make it sound like there is some magic wand to fix this or they think staging 500 cops inside the schools and turning them in to prisons would be better.

I’m an LCPS teacher. No, LCPS is NOT doing everything they can to help this. Not at all.

Wow is that right?
This is scary.
Where do you think most of it takes place inside the school? Is it in open view to kids in school? Can they see whoever is doing it?
I am SO scared of exposure to other kids.

DP here. You can swallow a pill literally anywhere. They aren’t shooting lines of cocaine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is from school board member Ian Sorotkin's FB page.

"Fentanyl is a national crisis, and one that we are not immune to in Loudoun County. What we need right now isn’t election eve politics, it’s help. The issue of fentanyl in our schools has been on our radar for some time. LCPS held six informational sessions on the matter last spring in collaboration with the Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office and has been intentional about awareness and education in numerous newsletters, messages, and press releases. We now have Naloxone in all schools and have staff at each school trained in its use.

LCPS has protocols and supports in place when we discover that individual students are struggling with drug use. Those protocols offer support and resources to the student and their family. That said, supports for juveniles suffering with addiction issues are few and far between, waitlists are long, and treatment is often cost prohibitive. Now is the time to come together as a community and right that wrong. Our kids deserve better, and it is up to us to do better for them."

This. It is clear LCPS is trying to do everything they can to deal with this very difficult situation. The nut jobs make it sound like there is some magic wand to fix this or they think staging 500 cops inside the schools and turning them in to prisons would be better.

I’m an LCPS teacher. No, LCPS is NOT doing everything they can to help this. Not at all.

Wow is that right?
This is scary.
Where do you think most of it takes place inside the school? Is it in open view to kids in school? Can they see whoever is doing it?
I am SO scared of exposure to other kids.

DP here. You can swallow a pill literally anywhere. They aren’t shooting lines of cocaine.

Ohh ok..
I am so clueless…