Dallas or DC (area)?

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Anonymous wrote:We moved to Dallas a few years ago and love it! I don’t always agree with the politics, abortion etc and the heat between June and September is hellish. No place is perfect. We love the incredible diversity in our town, highly educated, safe, excellent schools, our town in 50 50 Red and Blue, and a conversation can actually be had. COL is amazing, and the people are genuine and super friendly, none of the striver, high anxiety keeping up with joneses, lame passive aggressive pot shots that we experienced back east. Lots of people from California and NYC are moving here and the place it up and coming. Come on down OP!

Where in Dallas are you?

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Anonymous wrote:There isn't enough money in the world for me to live In a place where people have the right to carry guns and shoot people, and I don't have autonomy over my own body

Do Democrats realize that states like Texas need more Democrats to move to them if there is ever going to be a chance of turning them blue? I get that you're just expressing your own opinion, but hopefully other Democrats are more open minded about possible places to live.

Honestly I think abortion restrictions and making life unsafe and hellish for LGBTQ people and Blacks is an explicit strategy to try to prevent states like Texas from continuing to turn blue. Also, a strategy to make Florida deep red. And I think it’s working. This is why by 2100 less than 30% of the US population will elect 70% of the senate.

Can you please provide concrete examples of what the Texas government is doing to accomplish this? Why are so many AAs moving there if life is truly “unsafe and hellish.” What metric are you using to determine life is unsafe and hellish? It can’t be crime because other cities/states have worse crime stats. It also can’t be the economy and employment.

Houston is one of the most diverse cities in the US. Harris County has the largest AA population in the US.

You seem kind of hysterical and emotional. Perhaps go visit Dallas or Houston. You’d be shocked.

I'm guessing PP knows little about Texas. Dallas has an African American mayor, and Houston is the largest city to have had an openly gay mayor.

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Anonymous wrote:There isn't enough money in the world for me to live In a place where people have the right to carry guns and shoot people, and I don't have autonomy over my own body

Do Democrats realize that states like Texas need more Democrats to move to them if there is ever going to be a chance of turning them blue? I get that you're just expressing your own opinion, but hopefully other Democrats are more open minded about possible places to live.

Honestly I think abortion restrictions and making life unsafe and hellish for LGBTQ people and Blacks is an explicit strategy to try to prevent states like Texas from continuing to turn blue. Also, a strategy to make Florida deep red. And I think it’s working. This is why by 2100 less than 30% of the US population will elect 70% of the senate.

When Democrats realize that LGBTQ isn't a shared identity (plenty of gays and lesbians have deep doubts about transgender politics and gender ideologies) and sprout about red states making life hellish for blacks when that makes no sense and some of the most dangerous cities are in deep blue states and more violence against blacks (by other blacks as is typical) are in DC, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Detroit, etc, than any red state), then maybe more people in Texas or other red states might pay some attention to Democratic policies.

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Anonymous wrote:We moved to Dallas a few years ago and love it! I don’t always agree with the politics, abortion etc and the heat between June and September is hellish. No place is perfect. We love the incredible diversity in our town, highly educated, safe, excellent schools, our town in 50 50 Red and Blue, and a conversation can actually be had. COL is amazing, and the people are genuine and super friendly, none of the striver, high anxiety keeping up with joneses, lame passive aggressive pot shots that we experienced back east. Lots of people from California and NYC are moving here and the place it up and coming. Come on down OP!

Where in Dallas are you?

+1. I may move back in a few years.

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Anonymous wrote:We moved to Dallas a few years ago and love it! I don’t always agree with the politics, abortion etc and the heat between June and September is hellish. No place is perfect. We love the incredible diversity in our town, highly educated, safe, excellent schools, our town in 50 50 Red and Blue, and a conversation can actually be had. COL is amazing, and the people are genuine and super friendly, none of the striver, high anxiety keeping up with joneses, lame passive aggressive pot shots that we experienced back east. Lots of people from California and NYC are moving here and the place it up and coming. Come on down OP!

Where in Dallas are you?

+1. I may move back in a few years.

I’m probably giving myself away as I know other people on DCUM, but whatever, I will reveal!!
Coppell TX

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We moved to Dallas a few years ago and love it! I don’t always agree with the politics, abortion etc and the heat between June and September is hellish. No place is perfect. We love the incredible diversity in our town, highly educated, safe, excellent schools, our town in 50 50 Red and Blue, and a conversation can actually be had. COL is amazing, and the people are genuine and super friendly, none of the striver, high anxiety keeping up with joneses, lame passive aggressive pot shots that we experienced back east. Lots of people from California and NYC are moving here and the place it up and coming. Come on down OP!

Coppell is not cheap- you aren’t buying in at $500k- and there is plenty of striver and high anxiety competition going on. I used to do alumni interviews there for my Ivy but stopped because it made me anxious by association.

Coppell has *49* national merit semi finalists this year. 49! That is the opposite of the no striver, low anxiety, low competitive dreamscape this PP is selling. And yes, people are moving there from elsewhere, but they’re not the purple chill people you’re imagining. They’re more the kind of people who rank good value of housing + strong schools + nice house + low taxes over politics. There are ruthlessly focused on lowering their cost of living or maximizing the value of their salary or straight-up libertarians.

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Anonymous wrote:My friend has a gorgeous house in a good school neighborhood in Dallas near SMU. Forgot what it’s called— Highland Park? Gorgeous homes, but pricey.
Do you have kids or single/married? I’d consider renting or buying a small in DC if you want a more lively scene. Some may be discounted due to crime surge. Check near Union market/noma.

Highland Park is absolutely gorgeous if you have at least a $4M budget.

(When we lived there you could buy in one of the less desirable streets for $800-$1M and I remember that seeming so out of reach. Should have stretched!)

I’ve been watching HP real estate and you can still get a nice house for around $1.8 million. Occasionally, one of the smaller cottages that hasn’t been torn down yet will come on the market for less.

Nothing under $2.85 in the last 3 months at least. $1.8 would be a teardown on Airline.

There have been. It’s hard to track, since Zillow doesn’t show sold prices there and houses in that price range go fast, so you have to see the listing and take note when they sell. Look at recently sold houses, especially west of Preston Road (the “zestimates” are close). I’ve seen some very nice houses in the heart of University Park (same schools) sell recently for under $2m. Of course, if you want 5,000 square feet on Beverly, it will be $4m (and up). However, there are starting to be price drops, even there.

I mean, this one is still $4m, but the price has dropped $250k after three months on the market.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3603-Harvard-Ave-Highland-Park-TX-75205/27201551_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

I saw this one in UP go by for under $2m:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3829-Amherst-Ave-Dallas-TX-75225/27209457_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

A few under $2 m HP samples:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4535-Arcady-Ave-Highland-Park-TX-75205/27201873_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4416-Edmondson-Ave-Highland-Park-TX-75205/27202450_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4623-S-Versailles-Ave-Highland-Park-TX-75209/27202878_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

$1.4m if you’re willing to live on Mockingbird Lane:
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4409-Mockingbird-Ln-Highland-Park-TX-75205/27202619_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

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Anonymous wrote:My friend has a gorgeous house in a good school neighborhood in Dallas near SMU. Forgot what it’s called— Highland Park? Gorgeous homes, but pricey.
Do you have kids or single/married? I’d consider renting or buying a small in DC if you want a more lively scene. Some may be discounted due to crime surge. Check near Union market/noma.

Highland Park is absolutely gorgeous if you have at least a $4M budget.

(When we lived there you could buy in one of the less desirable streets for $800-$1M and I remember that seeming so out of reach. Should have stretched!)

I’ve been watching HP real estate and you can still get a nice house for around $1.8 million. Occasionally, one of the smaller cottages that hasn’t been torn down yet will come on the market for less.

Nothing under $2.85 in the last 3 months at least. $1.8 would be a teardown on Airline.

There have been. It’s hard to track, since Zillow doesn’t show sold prices there and houses in that price range go fast, so you have to see the listing and take note when they sell. Look at recently sold houses, especially west of Preston Road (the “zestimates” are close). I’ve seen some very nice houses in the heart of University Park (same schools) sell recently for under $2m. Of course, if you want 5,000 square feet on Beverly, it will be $4m (and up). However, there are starting to be price drops, even there.

I mean, this one is still $4m, but the price has dropped $250k after three months on the market.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3603-Harvard-Ave-Highland-Park-TX-75205/27201551_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

I saw this one in UP go by for under $2m:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3829-Amherst-Ave-Dallas-TX-75225/27209457_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

A few under $2 m HP samples:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4535-Arcady-Ave-Highland-Park-TX-75205/27201873_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4416-Edmondson-Ave-Highland-Park-TX-75205/27202450_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4623-S-Versailles-Ave-Highland-Park-TX-75209/27202878_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

$1.4m if you’re willing to live on Mockingbird Lane:
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4409-Mockingbird-Ln-Highland-Park-TX-75205/27202619_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

I didn’t look at all of these but at least one was sold as a lot and another “as is” with no listing photos- AND west of Preston. In short, a neighborhood where you have to build an entire new house after spending $2M may be nice, but it’s not very accessible and not relevant to someone with a $500k budget!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’d move to Dallas, DC is dying

We are hardly dying. My ex husband left DC for Dallas. He stayed 18 months and moved to Chicago where he was from. He regretted moving. Most people I know from DC hate Dallas. There are many better places to go.

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Anonymous wrote:There isn't enough money in the world for me to live In a place where people have the right to carry guns and shoot people, and I don't have autonomy over my own body

Eh. No income taxes? After 20 years living in Maryland, I’m tempted to move![/quote

Remember, you get what you pay for. Other taxes are really high and taxes support lots of government necessities.

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making life unsafe and hellish for LGBTQ people

uh, Dallas is a gay mecca. Please don't insult the intelligence of the large LGBTQ community there (or in Houston).

This may be true, but the Texas legislature is constantly telling cities what they can do and taking away their rights.

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Anonymous wrote:We moved to Dallas a few years ago and love it! I don’t always agree with the politics, abortion etc and the heat between June and September is hellish. No place is perfect. We love the incredible diversity in our town, highly educated, safe, excellent schools, our town in 50 50 Red and Blue, and a conversation can actually be had. COL is amazing, and the people are genuine and super friendly, none of the striver, high anxiety keeping up with joneses, lame passive aggressive pot shots that we experienced back east. Lots of people from California and NYC are moving here and the place it up and coming. Come on down OP!

Where in Dallas are you?

+1. I may move back in a few years.

I’m probably giving myself away as I know other people on DCUM, but whatever, I will reveal!!
Coppell TX

PP here - too funny! My law firm used to do their city government work.

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Anonymous wrote:My friend has a gorgeous house in a good school neighborhood in Dallas near SMU. Forgot what it’s called— Highland Park? Gorgeous homes, but pricey.
Do you have kids or single/married? I’d consider renting or buying a small in DC if you want a more lively scene. Some may be discounted due to crime surge. Check near Union market/noma.

Highland Park is absolutely gorgeous if you have at least a $4M budget.

(When we lived there you could buy in one of the less desirable streets for $800-$1M and I remember that seeming so out of reach. Should have stretched!)

+1

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Neither appeals to me. I've been stuck in the DC metro because of my career, despite my absolute visceral hate for the area, but I'd never pick Dallas over it. The Texas landscape, climate, development patterns, etc. have no appeal to me, despite the state having a political environment that leans toward greater personal liberty, which I prefer.

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Anonymous wrote:There isn't enough money in the world for me to live In a place where people have the right to carry guns and shoot people, and I don't have autonomy over my own body

Do Democrats realize that states like Texas need more Democrats to move to them if there is ever going to be a chance of turning them blue? I get that you're just expressing your own opinion, but hopefully other Democrats are more open minded about possible places to live.

Honestly I think abortion restrictions and making life unsafe and hellish for LGBTQ people and Blacks is an explicit strategy to try to prevent states like Texas from continuing to turn blue. Also, a strategy to make Florida deep red. And I think it’s working. This is why by 2100 less than 30% of the US population will elect 70% of the senate.

When Democrats realize that LGBTQ isn't a shared identity (plenty of gays and lesbians have deep doubts about transgender politics and gender ideologies) and sprout about red states making life hellish for blacks when that makes no sense and some of the most dangerous cities are in deep blue states and more violence against blacks (by other blacks as is typical) are in DC, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Detroit, etc, than any red state), then maybe more people in Texas or other red states might pay some attention to Democratic policies.

That may be true, but economically, black people do MUCH better in blue cities like DC. There is a reason that the wealth in PG is so high. My ex moved to Dallas from DC and moved right back. If you working class and just need a job, it's fine. If you are in the professional class, you just make more in blue cities. You have more opportunity. I have spoken to MANY black people in TX who say this.

I know black people who worked for Exxon Mobil in Fairfax. When they closed that office and moved everyone to Houston, I know black spouses who NEVER found jobs. It's just a different mentality.