For a Great, but not Over-Accomplished Student, Is there Any Reason to Look Outside Virginia?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Virginians who can't imagine a reason for a student to go somewhere else ... you are the reason.

(btw, starting thread after thread about this just makes you look more and more small-minded)

And I’m guessing you’re not from VA? It’s a solid question. We have great and varied in state options. There is literally no reason to go out of the state unless you physically do not want to be in Virginia. And yes some people do not want to be in VA. But if they do not mind, there are amazing selections for all types of students.

You are so clueless about the opportunities outside VA. It is funny that some people are so oblivious.

DP. Many of us grew up in VA, then moved elsewhere for work, and after many years, decided to move BACK to VA. Why? The number one reason is because of the quality of VA's universities. Of course there are opportunities outside of VA. Just as there are many opportunities within VA, that cost far less. And you do realize that people can *move* wherever they want after college, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child is a strong student with good academics but never really forced himself to get a bunch of leadership positions or create clubs he had no interest in just for college. As a result, we don’t think he’d say Harvard or Duke caliber, but he’s still looking for a good school. Given that VA has so many strong options, does it even make sense to look outside of UVA, VT, W&M, etc.?

No it does not sound that he has the energy or vision to go OOS. Try VT or JMU

Now you're claiming it takes "energy and vision" to simply go OOS?
DP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child is a strong student with good academics but never really forced himself to get a bunch of leadership positions or create clubs he had no interest in just for college. As a result, we don’t think he’d say Harvard or Duke caliber, but he’s still looking for a good school. Given that VA has so many strong options, does it even make sense to look outside of UVA, VT, W&M, etc.?

No it does not sound that he has the energy or vision to go OOS. Try VT or JMU

Now you're claiming it takes "energy and vision" to simply go OOS?
DP

+1 what a ridiculous comment by the PP. OP already said their kid isn't looking at the Harvard/Duke type of schools that are full of super smart and driven students. Even a choice like WashU with lots of good academic options could be interesting to explore over the in-state schools without having to be type A all the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virginians who can't imagine a reason for a student to go somewhere else ... you are the reason.

(btw, starting thread after thread about this just makes you look more and more small-minded)

And I’m guessing you’re not from VA? It’s a solid question. We have great and varied in state options. There is literally no reason to go out of the state unless you physically do not want to be in Virginia. And yes some people do not want to be in VA. But if they do not mind, there are amazing selections for all types of students.

You are so clueless about the opportunities outside VA. It is funny that some people are so oblivious.

DP. Many of us grew up in VA, then moved elsewhere for work, and after many years, decided to move BACK to VA. Why? The number one reason is because of the quality of VA's universities. Of course there are opportunities outside of VA. Just as there are many opportunities within VA, that cost far less. And you do realize that people can *move* wherever they want after college, right?

No offense but I wouldn’t move 5 miles for VA’s universities.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child is a strong student with good academics but never really forced himself to get a bunch of leadership positions or create clubs he had no interest in just for college. As a result, we don’t think he’d say Harvard or Duke caliber, but he’s still looking for a good school. Given that VA has so many strong options, does it even make sense to look outside of UVA, VT, W&M, etc.?

No it does not sound that he has the energy or vision to go OOS. Try VT or JMU

Now you're claiming it takes "energy and vision" to simply go OOS?
DP

+1 what a ridiculous comment by the PP. OP already said their kid isn't looking at the Harvard/Duke type of schools that are full of super smart and driven students. Even a choice like WashU with lots of good academic options could be interesting to explore over the in-state schools without having to be type A all the time.

Wash U??? What a joke. If you can get in there you can into UVA in state. They’re both ranked 24th, UVA is half the price, and UVA is twice the fun. Why in the hell would anyone in VA choose Wash U over UVA?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child is a strong student with good academics but never really forced himself to get a bunch of leadership positions or create clubs he had no interest in just for college. As a result, we don’t think he’d say Harvard or Duke caliber, but he’s still looking for a good school. Given that VA has so many strong options, does it even make sense to look outside of UVA, VT, W&M, etc.?

No it does not sound that he has the energy or vision to go OOS. Try VT or JMU

Now you're claiming it takes "energy and vision" to simply go OOS?
DP

+1 what a ridiculous comment by the PP. OP already said their kid isn't looking at the Harvard/Duke type of schools that are full of super smart and driven students. Even a choice like WashU with lots of good academic options could be interesting to explore over the in-state schools without having to be type A all the time.

Wash U??? What a joke. If you can get in there you can into UVA in state. They’re both ranked 24th, UVA is half the price, and UVA is twice the fun. Why in the hell would anyone in VA choose Wash U over UVA?

Because UVA doesn’t appeal to everyone

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That's a big jump you're making there. There're a lot of schools between the Harvard/Duke level and the Virginia in-state options. Doesn't hurt to look outside, but yes the in-state tuition is nice at a lot of great schools.

I agree with this. DD probably would have been headed to JMU (maaaaybe VT) or lower VA school but unexpectedly got into her around T50 private reach school. She really did a turn around academically and absolutely loved every minute of college. She thinks had she gone to VT (where most of her friends ended up) or other instate college that she would have just coasted along like she did in high school. So there's lots more that goes into the college success equation.

I have students at instate colleges and wonder why you think they're "coasting". It's not as if OOS schools are somehow more rigorous than ours. In a lot of cases, it's quite the opposite.

Why do you think pp is doing anything but sharing her own kid’s experience and opinion?
But sure, we’ll pay full price if the choice is a private T50 where kid really wants to go over JMU. Any day. But that’s us. I don’t judge your kids at CNU or wherever.

DP. Wow, you're charming. What a totally disproportionate and defensive response.

I assume you're talking about the VA pp "wondering" why we think her kids are "coasting" at a VA school, when on one said anything remotely like that and a pp was was merely responding with their own personal experience.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virginians who can't imagine a reason for a student to go somewhere else ... you are the reason.

(btw, starting thread after thread about this just makes you look more and more small-minded)

And I’m guessing you’re not from VA? It’s a solid question. We have great and varied in state options. There is literally no reason to go out of the state unless you physically do not want to be in Virginia. And yes some people do not want to be in VA. But if they do not mind, there are amazing selections for all types of students.

You are so clueless about the opportunities outside VA. It is funny that some people are so oblivious.

DP. Many of us grew up in VA, then moved elsewhere for work, and after many years, decided to move BACK to VA. Why? The number one reason is because of the quality of VA's universities. Of course there are opportunities outside of VA. Just as there are many opportunities within VA, that cost far less. And you do realize that people can *move* wherever they want after college, right?

No offense but I wouldn’t move 5 miles for VA’s universities.

And that’s because you’re foolish.

When we moved to the DMV decades ago it was one of the main reasons we chose the VA suburbs over the MD ones. It’s a smart college savings plan. Ended up sending 2 kids to UVA, one to W&M, and one to VCU. Do you really think we’d have been better off sending the kids to silly schools like Tulane and Wake Forest? Really?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child is a strong student with good academics but never really forced himself to get a bunch of leadership positions or create clubs he had no interest in just for college. As a result, we don’t think he’d say Harvard or Duke caliber, but he’s still looking for a good school. Given that VA has so many strong options, does it even make sense to look outside of UVA, VT, W&M, etc.?

No it does not sound that he has the energy or vision to go OOS. Try VT or JMU

Now you're claiming it takes "energy and vision" to simply go OOS?
DP

+1 what a ridiculous comment by the PP. OP already said their kid isn't looking at the Harvard/Duke type of schools that are full of super smart and driven students. Even a choice like WashU with lots of good academic options could be interesting to explore over the in-state schools without having to be type A all the time.

Wash U??? What a joke. If you can get in there you can into UVA in state. They’re both ranked 24th, UVA is half the price, and UVA is twice the fun. Why in the hell would anyone in VA choose Wash U over UVA?

Because UVA doesn’t appeal to everyone

Because not everyone can get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virginians who can't imagine a reason for a student to go somewhere else ... you are the reason.

(btw, starting thread after thread about this just makes you look more and more small-minded)

And I’m guessing you’re not from VA? It’s a solid question. We have great and varied in state options. There is literally no reason to go out of the state unless you physically do not want to be in Virginia. And yes some people do not want to be in VA. But if they do not mind, there are amazing selections for all types of students.

You are so clueless about the opportunities outside VA. It is funny that some people are so oblivious.

DP. Many of us grew up in VA, then moved elsewhere for work, and after many years, decided to move BACK to VA. Why? The number one reason is because of the quality of VA's universities. Of course there are opportunities outside of VA. Just as there are many opportunities within VA, that cost far less. And you do realize that people can *move* wherever they want after college, right?

No offense but I wouldn’t move 5 miles for VA’s universities.

And that’s because you’re foolish.

When we moved to the DMV decades ago it was one of the main reasons we chose the VA suburbs over the MD ones. It’s a smart college savings plan. Ended up sending 2 kids to UVA, one to W&M, and one to VCU. Do you really think we’d have been better off sending the kids to silly schools like Tulane and Wake Forest? Really?

To some of us, UMD and UVA are equivalent. Not trying to upset anyone but I couldn’t care less between the two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virginians who can't imagine a reason for a student to go somewhere else ... you are the reason.

(btw, starting thread after thread about this just makes you look more and more small-minded)

And I’m guessing you’re not from VA? It’s a solid question. We have great and varied in state options. There is literally no reason to go out of the state unless you physically do not want to be in Virginia. And yes some people do not want to be in VA. But if they do not mind, there are amazing selections for all types of students.

You are so clueless about the opportunities outside VA. It is funny that some people are so oblivious.

DP. Many of us grew up in VA, then moved elsewhere for work, and after many years, decided to move BACK to VA. Why? The number one reason is because of the quality of VA's universities. Of course there are opportunities outside of VA. Just as there are many opportunities within VA, that cost far less. And you do realize that people can *move* wherever they want after college, right?

No offense but I wouldn’t move 5 miles for VA’s universities.

And that’s because you’re foolish.

When we moved to the DMV decades ago it was one of the main reasons we chose the VA suburbs over the MD ones. It’s a smart college savings plan. Ended up sending 2 kids to UVA, one to W&M, and one to VCU. Do you really think we’d have been better off sending the kids to silly schools like Tulane and Wake Forest? Really?

To some of us, UMD and UVA are equivalent. Not trying to upset anyone but I couldn’t care less between the two.

Sure. But outside of UMD there’s nothing else in Maryland. And going to UMD means not even leaving the DMV. They even have a metro stop. So VA is still more appealing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virginians who can't imagine a reason for a student to go somewhere else ... you are the reason.

(btw, starting thread after thread about this just makes you look more and more small-minded)

And I’m guessing you’re not from VA? It’s a solid question. We have great and varied in state options. There is literally no reason to go out of the state unless you physically do not want to be in Virginia. And yes some people do not want to be in VA. But if they do not mind, there are amazing selections for all types of students.

You are so clueless about the opportunities outside VA. It is funny that some people are so oblivious.

DP. Many of us grew up in VA, then moved elsewhere for work, and after many years, decided to move BACK to VA. Why? The number one reason is because of the quality of VA's universities. Of course there are opportunities outside of VA. Just as there are many opportunities within VA, that cost far less. And you do realize that people can *move* wherever they want after college, right?

No offense but I wouldn’t move 5 miles for VA’s universities.

And that’s because you’re foolish.

When we moved to the DMV decades ago it was one of the main reasons we chose the VA suburbs over the MD ones. It’s a smart college savings plan. Ended up sending 2 kids to UVA, one to W&M, and one to VCU. Do you really think we’d have been better off sending the kids to silly schools like Tulane and Wake Forest? Really?

To some of us, UMD and UVA are equivalent. Not trying to upset anyone but I couldn’t care less between the two.

Sure. But outside of UMD there’s nothing else in Maryland. And going to UMD means not even leaving the DMV. They even have a metro stop. So VA is still more appealing.

Not to everyone. Some of us find VA too southern. Some of us don’t want to be in the middle of nowhere. Some of us want local internships.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virginians who can't imagine a reason for a student to go somewhere else ... you are the reason.

(btw, starting thread after thread about this just makes you look more and more small-minded)

And I’m guessing you’re not from VA? It’s a solid question. We have great and varied in state options. There is literally no reason to go out of the state unless you physically do not want to be in Virginia. And yes some people do not want to be in VA. But if they do not mind, there are amazing selections for all types of students.

You are so clueless about the opportunities outside VA. It is funny that some people are so oblivious.

DP. Many of us grew up in VA, then moved elsewhere for work, and after many years, decided to move BACK to VA. Why? The number one reason is because of the quality of VA's universities. Of course there are opportunities outside of VA. Just as there are many opportunities within VA, that cost far less. And you do realize that people can *move* wherever they want after college, right?

No offense but I wouldn’t move 5 miles for VA’s universities.

And that’s because you’re foolish.

When we moved to the DMV decades ago it was one of the main reasons we chose the VA suburbs over the MD ones. It’s a smart college savings plan. Ended up sending 2 kids to UVA, one to W&M, and one to VCU. Do you really think we’d have been better off sending the kids to silly schools like Tulane and Wake Forest? Really?

To some of us, UMD and UVA are equivalent. Not trying to upset anyone but I couldn’t care less between the two.

Sure. But outside of UMD there’s nothing else in Maryland. And going to UMD means not even leaving the DMV. They even have a metro stop. So VA is still more appealing.

Not to everyone. Some of us find VA too southern. Some of us don’t want to be in the middle of nowhere. Some of us want local internships.

So you pick GMU. Problem solved. See what I mean about Virginia having more options?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child is a strong student with good academics but never really forced himself to get a bunch of leadership positions or create clubs he had no interest in just for college. As a result, we don’t think he’d say Harvard or Duke caliber, but he’s still looking for a good school. Given that VA has so many strong options, does it even make sense to look outside of UVA, VT, W&M, etc.?

No it does not sound that he has the energy or vision to go OOS. Try VT or JMU

Now you're claiming it takes "energy and vision" to simply go OOS?
DP

+1 what a ridiculous comment by the PP. OP already said their kid isn't looking at the Harvard/Duke type of schools that are full of super smart and driven students. Even a choice like WashU with lots of good academic options could be interesting to explore over the in-state schools without having to be type A all the time.

Wash U??? What a joke. If you can get in there you can into UVA in state. They’re both ranked 24th, UVA is half the price, and UVA is twice the fun. Why in the hell would anyone in VA choose Wash U over UVA?

Because UVA doesn’t appeal to everyone

Because not everyone can get in.

it can be both

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child is a strong student with good academics but never really forced himself to get a bunch of leadership positions or create clubs he had no interest in just for college. As a result, we don’t think he’d say Harvard or Duke caliber, but he’s still looking for a good school. Given that VA has so many strong options, does it even make sense to look outside of UVA, VT, W&M, etc.?

No it does not sound that he has the energy or vision to go OOS. Try VT or JMU

Now you're claiming it takes "energy and vision" to simply go OOS?
DP

+1 what a ridiculous comment by the PP. OP already said their kid isn't looking at the Harvard/Duke type of schools that are full of super smart and driven students. Even a choice like WashU with lots of good academic options could be interesting to explore over the in-state schools without having to be type A all the time.

Wash U??? What a joke. If you can get in there you can into UVA in state. They’re both ranked 24th, UVA is half the price, and UVA is twice the fun. Why in the hell would anyone in VA choose Wash U over UVA?

Stop trolling. We don’t need another thread of this. Everyone has different interests, priorities, and budgets. Get over it.