School bonds on November ballot

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I will vote yes when I finally see any movement on McLean HS getting a renovation.

Not voting for other kids to get a renovation because your kids aren't is a very McLean parent attitude.

Knee jerk stupidity. Look into how overdue MHS is for a renovation, how crowded it is, and how the county keeps green lighting development that will add to school crowding before you issue another thoughtless and uninformed statement like that.

Lol. They kind of have a point though. Just because you're not getting a renovation means you're going to vote against other people getting renovations? There is nothing we can do about that. I would love for my kid's school to get a renovation, but that doesn't mean I'm going to vote against these other schools.

See how you feel after voting yes on the bond for over 20 years and still not seeing your school which is in need make the cut.

But voting no will just delay your school's renovations that much longer. They are not going to say "Oh, people voted no, better put McLean on the list." They are going to say "We only have the funds for one renovation this year instead of five, so I guess it will take 5+ years to get through the list we have." Way to spite your face.

That's what these people don't understand. All of the capital improvement meetings are open and accept public comment - submit your opinions there instead of on DCUM.

They have one public hearing on the CIP every year and by the time it’s held all the decisions effectively have already been made. Nothing said at those hearings makes any difference.

The only thing that makes any difference is voting out School Board members or letting them know they’d get pilloried if they ran again. Of course, there are shameless members like Frisch who waste taxpayer money and run again anyway, betting that not enough people pay any attention to what he’s done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I will vote yes when I finally see any movement on McLean HS getting a renovation.

Well, if this isn’t McLean in a nutshell.

Knee jerk stupidity. Look into how overdue MHS is for a renovation, how crowded it is, and how the county keeps green lighting development that will add to school crowding before you issue another thoughtless and uninformed statement like that.

You just copied and pasted your response at 14:16.
DP

Yes. Because it was the exact same sentiment expressed up thread.

You are beyond tiresome.

[Anonymous]

The whole SB needs to be voted out, but no doubt the usual “blue no matter who” crowd will insanely continue to vote for morons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A few years ago voters approved a new elementary school for the Fairfax/Oakton area. The current school board voted to move these voter approved funds to re-open the Dunn Loring school which is not needed. This has turned into a $60 million waste of taxpayer dollars. Until the school board can show that they will be a good steward of taxpayer dollars and follow through on voter approved projects I will be voting "No".

Exactly.

Almost. They led people to believe they were going to renovate and re-open the old Dunn Loring school. There was no need for a new ES there but at least it sounded environmentally friendly. But now their plan is to tear down the existing building and build a brand-new elementary school, which still isn’t needed at that location.

It’s total stupidity courtesy of Karl Frisch, who really does not deserve another term. Sabio may not be a great candidate but he hasn’t wasted $60M in taxpayer money like Frisch.

Well said. Additionally, independently of how we may feel about Sabio, voting for him is the only way to remove Frisch from the School Board where he DOES NOT belong. Furthermore, as of this past July, Frisch was elected vice-chair of the School Board, and since Tholen (Chair) is leaving at the end of her term, if he were to stay on the SB, Frisch would assume chairman duties until a new chair is elected during the board's 2024 organizational meeting.

https://patch.com/virginia/herndon/elaine-tholen-karl-frisch-elected-lead-fairfax-county-school-board

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe I will vote yes when I finally see any movement on McLean HS getting a renovation.

Well, if this isn’t McLean in a nutshell.

Knee jerk stupidity. Look into how overdue MHS is for a renovation, how crowded it is, and how the county keeps green lighting development that will add to school crowding before you issue another thoughtless and uninformed statement like that.

You just copied and pasted your response at 14:16.
DP

Yes. Because it was the exact same sentiment expressed up thread.

You are beyond tiresome.

DP. PP was spot on. You’re the tiresome one.

[Anonymous]

Our property taxes are already SO high.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe I will vote yes when I finally see any movement on McLean HS getting a renovation.

Not voting for other kids to get a renovation because your kids aren't is a very McLean parent attitude.

Knee jerk stupidity. Look into how overdue MHS is for a renovation, how crowded it is, and how the county keeps green lighting development that will add to school crowding before you issue another thoughtless and uninformed statement like that.

Lol. They kind of have a point though. Just because you're not getting a renovation means you're going to vote against other people getting renovations? There is nothing we can do about that. I would love for my kid's school to get a renovation, but that doesn't mean I'm going to vote against these other schools.

See how you feel after voting yes on the bond for over 20 years and still not seeing your school which is in need make the cut.

But voting no will just delay your school's renovations that much longer. They are not going to say "Oh, people voted no, better put McLean on the list." They are going to say "We only have the funds for one renovation this year instead of five, so I guess it will take 5+ years to get through the list we have." Way to spite your face.

That's what these people don't understand. All of the capital improvement meetings are open and accept public comment - submit your opinions there instead of on DCUM.

They have one public hearing on the CIP every year and by the time it’s held all the decisions effectively have already been made. Nothing said at those hearings makes any difference.

The only thing that makes any difference is voting out School Board members or letting them know they’d get pilloried if they ran again. Of course, there are shameless members like Frisch who waste taxpayer money and run again anyway, betting that not enough people pay any attention to what he’s done.

Completely agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our property taxes are already SO high.

+1.

[Anonymous]

I always vote no, but it doesn't matter.

School bonds always pass by a large measure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our property taxes are already SO high.

They’re actually pretty low when you look around the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few years ago voters approved a new elementary school for the Fairfax/Oakton area. The current school board voted to move these voter approved funds to re-open the Dunn Loring school which is not needed. This has turned into a $60 million waste of taxpayer dollars. Until the school board can show that they will be a good steward of taxpayer dollars and follow through on voter approved projects I will be voting "No".

Exactly.

Almost. They led people to believe they were going to renovate and re-open the old Dunn Loring school. There was no need for a new ES there but at least it sounded environmentally friendly. But now their plan is to tear down the existing building and build a brand-new elementary school, which still isn’t needed at that location.

It’s total stupidity courtesy of Karl Frisch, who really does not deserve another term. Sabio may not be a great candidate but he hasn’t wasted $60M in taxpayer money like Frisch.

Well said. Additionally, independently of how we may feel about Sabio, voting for him is the only way to remove Frisch from the School Board where he DOES NOT belong. Furthermore, as of this past July, Frisch was elected vice-chair of the School Board, and since Tholen (Chair) is leaving at the end of her term, if he were to stay on the SB, Frisch would assume chairman duties until a new chair is elected during the board's 2024 organizational meeting.

https://patch.com/virginia/herndon/elaine-tholen-karl-frisch-elected-lead-fairfax-county-school-board

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our property taxes are already SO high.

They’re actually pretty low when you look around the country.

+1
I was thinking the same thing. They really are relatively low.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our property taxes are already SO high.

Our board of supervisors voted themselves a huge raise earlier this year. I believe it was a 40% pay raise. Pat Herrity was the only one of two supervisors who voted against it.

Meanwhile, what percentage pay raise did the teachers and support staff receive?

People around here really can't complain about the huge jumps in property taxes over the past 2 years and the ridiculous car taxes, when they keep voting blue no matter who. Far left politicians with no moderates elected are going to put in place far left policies.

Your taxes are so high because the board of supervisors is doing stuff like starting a universal income program for certain zip codes only in Fairfax County, with strings free monthly payments.

Either vote differently, or look forward to becoming California.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our property taxes are already SO high.

They’re actually pretty low when you look around the country.

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I was thinking the same thing. They really are relatively low.

We also have property tax on cars.

And, to those who think they are low, I think you must be from the northeast or California. Maybe, you are looking at taxes by state rather than county.

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/county-property-tax-paid-2021/

[Anonymous]

That links seems to be actual payments, not a percentage tax rate. It doesn’t make sense to compare actual payments when property values are different across the country.

I am from Wisconsin and our property taxes were much higher than what we have in Fairfax.