Lawyers: what do you think of Federalist Society today?

[Anonymous]

FedSoc is just MAGA in a nice suit to me. Auto-ding if I see that on a resume.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FedSoc is just MAGA in a nice suit to me. Auto-ding if I see that on a resume.

Gross. Closed-minded loony.

[Anonymous]

So you think recent Dem appointments are the most qualified in their fields?

Anyone who has ever been involved on any side of judicial appointments (and I have, during this administration) knows that it is so much about who you know to get those seats. I refuse to name names, because it’s offensive to the many perfectly decent people who happen to be caught up in this process. They don’t deserve shade.

So much horse trading goes on during the blue slip process from all sides. If you were ever involved, you’d know that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So you think recent Dem appointments are the most qualified in their fields?

Anyone who has ever been involved on any side of judicial appointments (and I have, during this administration) knows that it is so much about who you know to get those seats. I refuse to name names, because it’s offensive to the many perfectly decent people who happen to be caught up in this process. They don’t deserve shade.

So much horse trading goes on during the blue slip process from all sides. If you were ever involved, you’d know that.

+1. So much this. I clerked for a Clinton appointee who was a complete idiot and got the job because he was friend with a guy who was a Rhodes Scholar with Clinton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FedSoc is just MAGA in a nice suit to me. Auto-ding if I see that on a resume.

Gross. Closed-minded loony.

+1 (And I'm a liberal.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So you think recent Dem appointments are the most qualified in their fields?

Anyone who has ever been involved on any side of judicial appointments (and I have, during this administration) knows that it is so much about who you know to get those seats. I refuse to name names, because it’s offensive to the many perfectly decent people who happen to be caught up in this process. They don’t deserve shade.

So much horse trading goes on during the blue slip process from all sides. If you were ever involved, you’d know that.

Again, we aren't talking about general issues or flaws in the process. We are talking about the Federalist Society. To repeat:

DP - I am happy to entertain the idea that this is happening on the left in much the same manner as the Federalist Society operates, but the plain truth is that there isn't any evidence of it. Which is why we are discussing the Federalist Society and not a made up organization that exists only to be your straw man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So you think recent Dem appointments are the most qualified in their fields?

Anyone who has ever been involved on any side of judicial appointments (and I have, during this administration) knows that it is so much about who you know to get those seats. I refuse to name names, because it’s offensive to the many perfectly decent people who happen to be caught up in this process. They don’t deserve shade.

So much horse trading goes on during the blue slip process from all sides. If you were ever involved, you’d know that.

There is a wide and very relevant gap between "unqualified" and "most qualified in their fields." Of course there politics and horse trading are in play, but one can make political choices within a group of competent and respected candidates.

Anyway, we're getting away from the FedSoc, which actively seeks to break the government and render it powerless to interfere with corporate interests. Unqualified judges are only a symptom of that, not the whole illness.

[Anonymous]

If you get into a good DC law school, by definition you're very bright. High intelligence on any objective metric.

It's rare for a high intelligence person to truly believe in conservative values. The thing is, when you're a smart thinking person, your analysis takes you to liberalism. Smart people generally have to bend over backwards to come up with logic to support conservative issues.

As a consequence, only like 5% of students at good law schools lean conservative.

So they join the fed society to find their people.

It means that it's an instant networking org when they graduate.

In short, if you're willing to sell out your intellectual thoughtfulness to join a MAGA job-ladder, sure. But I assume anyone in those organizations in law school don't actually believe in the logic that gets them to those values. They are just willing to push their values aside for their professional ladder-climbiing aspirations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you get into a good DC law school, by definition you're very bright. High intelligence on any objective metric.

It's rare for a high intelligence person to truly believe in conservative values. The thing is, when you're a smart thinking person, your analysis takes you to liberalism. Smart people generally have to bend over backwards to come up with logic to support conservative issues.

As a consequence, only like 5% of students at good law schools lean conservative.

So they join the fed society to find their people.

It means that it's an instant networking org when they graduate.

In short, if you're willing to sell out your intellectual thoughtfulness to join a MAGA job-ladder, sure. But I assume anyone in those organizations in law school don't actually believe in the logic that gets them to those values. They are just willing to push their values aside for their professional ladder-climbiing aspirations.

If true, which it’s not really, it’s just youth bias. People get more conservative as they get older. Older and wiser.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you get into a good DC law school, by definition you're very bright. High intelligence on any objective metric.

It's rare for a high intelligence person to truly believe in conservative values. The thing is, when you're a smart thinking person, your analysis takes you to liberalism. Smart people generally have to bend over backwards to come up with logic to support conservative issues.

As a consequence, only like 5% of students at good law schools lean conservative.

So they join the fed society to find their people.

It means that it's an instant networking org when they graduate.

In short, if you're willing to sell out your intellectual thoughtfulness to join a MAGA job-ladder, sure. But I assume anyone in those organizations in law school don't actually believe in the logic that gets them to those values. They are just willing to push their values aside for their professional ladder-climbiing aspirations.

Disagree. Completely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FedSoc is just MAGA in a nice suit to me. Auto-ding if I see that on a resume.

Gross. Closed-minded loony.

No. Better to pass over people with extremely poor judgment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you get into a good DC law school, by definition you're very bright. High intelligence on any objective metric.

It's rare for a high intelligence person to truly believe in conservative values. The thing is, when you're a smart thinking person, your analysis takes you to liberalism. Smart people generally have to bend over backwards to come up with logic to support conservative issues.

As a consequence, only like 5% of students at good law schools lean conservative.

So they join the fed society to find their people.

It means that it's an instant networking org when they graduate.

In short, if you're willing to sell out your intellectual thoughtfulness to join a MAGA job-ladder, sure. But I assume anyone in those organizations in law school don't actually believe in the logic that gets them to those values. They are just willing to push their values aside for their professional ladder-climbiing aspirations.

The bolded portion is correct to the best of my knowledge & experience. The rest of your post seems to be no more than one person's opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FedSoc is just MAGA in a nice suit to me. Auto-ding if I see that on a resume.

Gross. Closed-minded loony.

+1 (And I'm a liberal.)

Either you’re lying or you know nothing about the Federalist Society. I’m the same way that it’s OK to not hire Nazis, it’s OK to not hire people actively working to destroy American democracy and pave the way for oligarchic kleptocracy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FedSoc is just MAGA in a nice suit to me. Auto-ding if I see that on a resume.

Gross. Closed-minded loony.

+1 (And I'm a liberal.)

Either you’re lying or you know nothing about the Federalist Society. I’m the same way that it’s OK to not hire Nazis, it’s OK to not hire people actively working to destroy American democracy and pave the way for oligarchic kleptocracy.

PP. Not lying. And I know plenty about the Federalist Society. Probably more than most people commenting on this post. In particular, I'm quite familiar with how membership can help put lawyers on the path to prestigious appointments, including the bench.

[Anonymous]

I went to one of their events just to see what they would talk about (it was a panel presentation over lunch), and there weren’t any people of color in the room. I’ve never been in a room in DC with zero people of color…it was weird.

FTR: I’m very liberal with a social justice type policy job.

If you haven’t actually been to one of their programs, you should go see for yourself.