ObamaCare ruined primary care medicine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nearly every PCP in this area is now switching to concierge service. No one wants to take ObamaCare any more because if it’s horrendous reimbursement rates, paperwork, productive quotas, etc. etc. Now it has ruined access to virtually all PCPs for everyone with insurance, because doctors have decided they’ll take zero insurance. Primary care is increasingly becoming a luxury for the ultra elites who can shell out additional thousands of more dollars per year to keep a PCP on retainer while the rest of us get stuck with nothing or impossible routes to overcome to get access for simple primary care. Isn’t more government intervention in healthcare great? We can all have equal healthcare when it is crap for everyone and hardly anyone can access it. Thanks ObamaCare.

Statistically this is a lie. So why do we even bother with this thread?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I blame the government for having too few seats at residency programs. We simply do not have enough doctors if everyone has access to healthcare. The system worked fine before, but only because so many people couldn’t afford to see doctors

Before the ACA, the system was not working fine. Go back and read the media articles describing the acute issues people faced at the time.

The ACA tried to fix problems, but as if often the case, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. ACA increased the amount of reporting, imposed onerous rules and regulations, and continues to reimburse less and less. It has now added millions of new people to the system while the number of doctors stays the same. It has blown up our entire healthcare system.

Doctors are fed up and are ditching all insurance, so now you have thousands and thousands of people paying out the a$$ for insurance they can’t even use anymore and are being asked to fork out thousands more for an exclusive membership just to keep docs on retainer. It squeezes many more people towards the remaining docs that do take insurance, which are fewer and far between. Just because you can look on your insurance website and find PCPs thst accept the insurance doesn’t mean you’ll get access. So many don’t even take new patients anymore, or it is impossible to schedule an appointment, rendering your insurance worthless. Too bad for you if you don’t have an extra $2000+ per year per person in your household to pay for a membership fee. You’re screwed.

Imagine how people without insurance felt, then, when they couldn't go to the doctor when they were sick because they had no insurance. And no, medicaid doesn't pay for such people. These people are too "rich" for medicaid, but too poor to get private insurance.

The subsidies ACA provided helped millions of people get insurance, and many who went to see a PCP for the first time in their lives.

ACA is not perfect, but without a viable alternative, it's here to stay. And like I posted earlier, even some Rs have given into ACA and want it shored up with more people signing up for it.

Great. And now no one can get healthcare, even if they have insurance because physicians are closing their doors and only want elitists paying thousands per year in cash out of pocket.

So glad we are now all in the gutter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I blame the government for having too few seats at residency programs. We simply do not have enough doctors if everyone has access to healthcare. The system worked fine before, but only because so many people couldn’t afford to see doctors

Before the ACA, the system was not working fine. Go back and read the media articles describing the acute issues people faced at the time.

The ACA tried to fix problems, but as if often the case, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. ACA increased the amount of reporting, imposed onerous rules and regulations, and continues to reimburse less and less. It has now added millions of new people to the system while the number of doctors stays the same. It has blown up our entire healthcare system.

Doctors are fed up and are ditching all insurance, so now you have thousands and thousands of people paying out the a$$ for insurance they can’t even use anymore and are being asked to fork out thousands more for an exclusive membership just to keep docs on retainer. It squeezes many more people towards the remaining docs that do take insurance, which are fewer and far between. Just because you can look on your insurance website and find PCPs thst accept the insurance doesn’t mean you’ll get access. So many don’t even take new patients anymore, or it is impossible to schedule an appointment, rendering your insurance worthless. Too bad for you if you don’t have an extra $2000+ per year per person in your household to pay for a membership fee. You’re screwed.

So your solution is to let those millions clog up emergency rooms with what otherwise should have been preventative issues that became acute. THAT is why the pre-ACA system was failing. For whatever flaws currently exist, blame the GOP for not being a partner in helping to fix it. They would rather the whole system collapse with no replacement and only the oligarchs in our country able to afford healthcare.

How is what we have post-ACA helping anyone now. Not only do the poor have dog poop healthcare, now everyone else does too.

Thank god we all now equally garbage healthcare thanks to ACA, isn’t more govt so much better?

ACA is about insurance, not healthcare. And to be honest, my health insurance pre-ACA was as bad as my post ACA insurance. It is what it is. Other countries do it better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I blame the government for having too few seats at residency programs. We simply do not have enough doctors if everyone has access to healthcare. The system worked fine before, but only because so many people couldn’t afford to see doctors

Before the ACA, the system was not working fine. Go back and read the media articles describing the acute issues people faced at the time.

The ACA tried to fix problems, but as if often the case, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. ACA increased the amount of reporting, imposed onerous rules and regulations, and continues to reimburse less and less. It has now added millions of new people to the system while the number of doctors stays the same. It has blown up our entire healthcare system.

Doctors are fed up and are ditching all insurance, so now you have thousands and thousands of people paying out the a$$ for insurance they can’t even use anymore and are being asked to fork out thousands more for an exclusive membership just to keep docs on retainer. It squeezes many more people towards the remaining docs that do take insurance, which are fewer and far between. Just because you can look on your insurance website and find PCPs thst accept the insurance doesn’t mean you’ll get access. So many don’t even take new patients anymore, or it is impossible to schedule an appointment, rendering your insurance worthless. Too bad for you if you don’t have an extra $2000+ per year per person in your household to pay for a membership fee. You’re screwed.

So your solution is to let those millions clog up emergency rooms with what otherwise should have been preventative issues that became acute. THAT is why the pre-ACA system was failing. For whatever flaws currently exist, blame the GOP for not being a partner in helping to fix it. They would rather the whole system collapse with no replacement and only the oligarchs in our country able to afford healthcare.

How is what we have post-ACA helping anyone now. Not only do the poor have dog poop healthcare, now everyone else does too.

Thank god we all now equally garbage healthcare thanks to ACA, isn’t more govt so much better?

Yet I bet if we talked about limiting the sky rocket profits of health care corporations, you’d be pissssssed about that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I blame the government for having too few seats at residency programs. We simply do not have enough doctors if everyone has access to healthcare. The system worked fine before, but only because so many people couldn’t afford to see doctors

Before the ACA, the system was not working fine. Go back and read the media articles describing the acute issues people faced at the time.

The ACA tried to fix problems, but as if often the case, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. ACA increased the amount of reporting, imposed onerous rules and regulations, and continues to reimburse less and less. It has now added millions of new people to the system while the number of doctors stays the same. It has blown up our entire healthcare system.

Doctors are fed up and are ditching all insurance, so now you have thousands and thousands of people paying out the a$$ for insurance they can’t even use anymore and are being asked to fork out thousands more for an exclusive membership just to keep docs on retainer. It squeezes many more people towards the remaining docs that do take insurance, which are fewer and far between. Just because you can look on your insurance website and find PCPs thst accept the insurance doesn’t mean you’ll get access. So many don’t even take new patients anymore, or it is impossible to schedule an appointment, rendering your insurance worthless. Too bad for you if you don’t have an extra $2000+ per year per person in your household to pay for a membership fee. You’re screwed.

So your solution is to let those millions clog up emergency rooms with what otherwise should have been preventative issues that became acute. THAT is why the pre-ACA system was failing. For whatever flaws currently exist, blame the GOP for not being a partner in helping to fix it. They would rather the whole system collapse with no replacement and only the oligarchs in our country able to afford healthcare.

How is what we have post-ACA helping anyone now. Not only do the poor have dog poop healthcare, now everyone else does too.

Thank god we all now equally garbage healthcare thanks to ACA, isn’t more govt so much better?

Yet I bet if we talked about limiting the sky rocket profits of health care corporations, you’d be pissssssed about that.

The PCPs switching to concierge do not work for big corporations, genius.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I blame the government for having too few seats at residency programs. We simply do not have enough doctors if everyone has access to healthcare. The system worked fine before, but only because so many people couldn’t afford to see doctors

Before the ACA, the system was not working fine. Go back and read the media articles describing the acute issues people faced at the time.

The ACA tried to fix problems, but as if often the case, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. ACA increased the amount of reporting, imposed onerous rules and regulations, and continues to reimburse less and less. It has now added millions of new people to the system while the number of doctors stays the same. It has blown up our entire healthcare system.

Doctors are fed up and are ditching all insurance, so now you have thousands and thousands of people paying out the a$$ for insurance they can’t even use anymore and are being asked to fork out thousands more for an exclusive membership just to keep docs on retainer. It squeezes many more people towards the remaining docs that do take insurance, which are fewer and far between. Just because you can look on your insurance website and find PCPs thst accept the insurance doesn’t mean you’ll get access. So many don’t even take new patients anymore, or it is impossible to schedule an appointment, rendering your insurance worthless. Too bad for you if you don’t have an extra $2000+ per year per person in your household to pay for a membership fee. You’re screwed.

Imagine how people without insurance felt, then, when they couldn't go to the doctor when they were sick because they had no insurance. And no, medicaid doesn't pay for such people. These people are too "rich" for medicaid, but too poor to get private insurance.

The subsidies ACA provided helped millions of people get insurance, and many who went to see a PCP for the first time in their lives.

ACA is not perfect, but without a viable alternative, it's here to stay. And like I posted earlier, even some Rs have given into ACA and want it shored up with more people signing up for it.

Great. And now no one can get healthcare, even if they have insurance because physicians are closing their doors and only want elitists paying thousands per year in cash out of pocket.

So glad we are now all in the gutter.

Unfortunately, the only way people seem to force change is if we all suffer because otherwise, there is no desire to change anything.

[Anonymous]

My union Healthcare is great.

My parents' Medicare is great.

You have poor health insurance because you have a cheap employer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My union Healthcare is great.

My parents' Medicare is great.

You have poor health insurance because you have a cheap employer.

Are you stupid?

Insurance doesn’t matter when PCPs switch to concierge.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My union Healthcare is great.

My parents' Medicare is great.

You have poor health insurance because you have a cheap employer.

Are you stupid?

Insurance doesn’t matter when PCPs switch to concierge.

I am stupid? I am the one who lives in blue state with plenty of doctors and great insurance.

You, on the other hand....

[Anonymous]

This whole thread is the perfect example of why the GOP has such a huge advantage - it's so much easier to lie to people than to try to explain the truth.

Look at all the people spending paragraphs valiantly trying to explain to these morons what the ACA is and how it actually works, just for them to go "whatever, I know what I heard from FOX news is true no matter how many facts get in the way!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My union Healthcare is great.

My parents' Medicare is great.

You have poor health insurance because you have a cheap employer.

Are you stupid?

Insurance doesn’t matter when PCPs switch to concierge.

+ 100. My dad and in-laws have had amazing healthcare under Medicare which, in essence, is a single payer system. My dad and MIL had open-heart surgery at world-class medical centers and no bills. I'll be eligible for Medicare in 2 years and can't wait.

My DH's union health insurance (and pension) are both amazing. We are blessed. Anyone who's complaining about their healthcare should consider changing employers since that's how most of us get health coverage. Prioritize your health--your life depends on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My union Healthcare is great.

My parents' Medicare is great.

You have poor health insurance because you have a cheap employer.

Are you stupid?

Insurance doesn’t matter when PCPs switch to concierge.

I am stupid? I am the one who lives in blue state with plenty of doctors and great insurance.

You, on the other hand....

What happened to Potomac Physicians, MoCo’s largest pcp group again?


Jesus, you live with your head in the sand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I blame the government for having too few seats at residency programs. We simply do not have enough doctors if everyone has access to healthcare. The system worked fine before, but only because so many people couldn’t afford to see doctors

Before the ACA, the system was not working fine. Go back and read the media articles describing the acute issues people faced at the time.

The ACA tried to fix problems, but as if often the case, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. ACA increased the amount of reporting, imposed onerous rules and regulations, and continues to reimburse less and less. It has now added millions of new people to the system while the number of doctors stays the same. It has blown up our entire healthcare system.

Doctors are fed up and are ditching all insurance, so now you have thousands and thousands of people paying out the a$$ for insurance they can’t even use anymore and are being asked to fork out thousands more for an exclusive membership just to keep docs on retainer. It squeezes many more people towards the remaining docs that do take insurance, which are fewer and far between. Just because you can look on your insurance website and find PCPs thst accept the insurance doesn’t mean you’ll get access. So many don’t even take new patients anymore, or it is impossible to schedule an appointment, rendering your insurance worthless. Too bad for you if you don’t have an extra $2000+ per year per person in your household to pay for a membership fee. You’re screwed.

So your solution is to let those millions clog up emergency rooms with what otherwise should have been preventative issues that became acute. THAT is why the pre-ACA system was failing. For whatever flaws currently exist, blame the GOP for not being a partner in helping to fix it. They would rather the whole system collapse with no replacement and only the oligarchs in our country able to afford healthcare.

How is what we have post-ACA helping anyone now. Not only do the poor have dog poop healthcare, now everyone else does too.

Thank god we all now equally garbage healthcare thanks to ACA, isn’t more govt so much better?

Yet I bet if we talked about limiting the sky rocket profits of health care corporations, you’d be pissssssed about that.

The PCPs switching to concierge do not work for big corporations, genius.

How about the private equity buying and consolidating practice groups, how about the healthcare systems trying to bring everything under their umbrella? Those account for more doctors than concierge can ever hope to

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My union Healthcare is great.

My parents' Medicare is great.

You have poor health insurance because you have a cheap employer.

Are you stupid?

Insurance doesn’t matter when PCPs switch to concierge.

+ 100. My dad and in-laws have had amazing healthcare under Medicare which, in essence, is a single payer system. My dad and MIL had open-heart surgery at world-class medical centers and no bills. I'll be eligible for Medicare in 2 years and can't wait.

My DH's union health insurance (and pension) are both amazing. We are blessed. Anyone who's complaining about their healthcare should consider changing employers since that's how most of us get health coverage. Prioritize your health--your life depends on it.

It doesn’t matter what insurance you have when doctors ditch all insurance.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/many-doctors-are-switching-to-concierge-medicine-exacerbating-physician-shortages/


How does this not register in your brain?

[Anonymous]

Thank goodness for the ACA, which offers less exorbitant healthcare to millions of patients who did not have it previously.



My family is one of them. I know what I'm talking about.