Oh, Chevy Chase (DC affordable housing)!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, the article is a hit job meant to make the neighborhood look bad. It should be fair to ask effected officials questions like:

How exactly will the community center and library be build out?

What amenities will be provided?

Will there be any green space left reserved?

Will there be a playground?

Will there still be a basketball/pickleball corurt?

Why can’t the city pay to develop these city owned resources which are available to and used by city-wide residents now?

Is this the best location to add housing when there are numerous other housing projects in flight nearby and many currently available units in the neighborhood?

But of course, when you ask questions like that you get slammed as racist and anti-affordable housing.

You do get to ask those questions. There’s a whole democratic system of government whereby you get to influence the answers.

This is exactly what ChCh residents are up in arms. The existence of some kind of process in no way ensures that we will like the outcomes. We feel like the city will end up doing whatever they want no matter the opposition. And on top of everything we’ll be vilified for being “racist”.

Once again, you are trying to speak for everyone who lives in CCDC, and are also suggesting that all are in agreement with *your* views. I don't know anyone in the neighborhood who is "up in arms" about the proposed development. In my opinion, there has been a lot of irrational fear-mongering coming from a small group of households opposed to the development. Why should a subset of residents have such great influence in the matter?

Fair enough, I should have said “some ChCh residents”: At least I can speak for myself and others who have been vocal on the listserve. We absolutely have no more rights than any other ChCh resident but this is not going to be decided in a democratic way where people will get a chance to vote and in the end majority will prevail. If that happened and I came out on the losing side I would absolutely accept the outcome but this process is totally opaque so what more can we do but write petitions and send emails to the listserve and show up at meetings? I don’t want more rights than others but I will defend mine to the best of my abilities. Based on the Post article, it’s clear the other side is campaigning hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are already many apartment buildings in CC that are affordable. But obviously that does nothing for the developers.

Or for the politicians whose campaigns they generously contribute to!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, the article is a hit job meant to make the neighborhood look bad. It should be fair to ask effected officials questions like:

How exactly will the community center and library be build out?

What amenities will be provided?

Will there be any green space left reserved?

Will there be a playground?

Will there still be a basketball/pickleball corurt?

Why can’t the city pay to develop these city owned resources which are available to and used by city-wide residents now?

Is this the best location to add housing when there are numerous other housing projects in flight nearby and many currently available units in the neighborhood?

But of course, when you ask questions like that you get slammed as racist and anti-affordable housing.

You do get to ask those questions. There’s a whole democratic system of government whereby you get to influence the answers.

This is exactly what ChCh residents are up in arms. The existence of some kind of process in no way ensures that we will like the outcomes. We feel like the city will end up doing whatever they want no matter the opposition. And on top of everything we’ll be vilified for being “racist”.

Yes this is literally how it works to live in a community and participate in the process. You make the best case you can for your position, you play the politics game as best you can, and you don’t always win! And people are allowed to call you racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is all this talk about green space? I have never seen any green space around the existing CCDC community center. Unless you count the crummy little playground with the boarded-up slide as green space.

How can you say that??? There is also a parking lot. It’s majestic and definitely what people care about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, the article is a hit job meant to make the neighborhood look bad. It should be fair to ask effected officials questions like:

How exactly will the community center and library be build out?

What amenities will be provided?

Will there be any green space left reserved?

Will there be a playground?

Will there still be a basketball/pickleball corurt?

Why can’t the city pay to develop these city owned resources which are available to and used by city-wide residents now?

Is this the best location to add housing when there are numerous other housing projects in flight nearby and many currently available units in the neighborhood?

But of course, when you ask questions like that you get slammed as racist and anti-affordable housing.

You do get to ask those questions. There’s a whole democratic system of government whereby you get to influence the answers.

This is exactly what ChCh residents are up in arms. The existence of some kind of process in no way ensures that we will like the outcomes. We feel like the city will end up doing whatever they want no matter the opposition. And on top of everything we’ll be vilified for being “racist”.

Once again, you are trying to speak for everyone who lives in CCDC, and are also suggesting that all are in agreement with *your* views. I don't know anyone in the neighborhood who is "up in arms" about the proposed development. In my opinion, there has been a lot of irrational fear-mongering coming from a small group of households opposed to the development. Why should a subset of residents have such great influence in the matter?

Fair enough, I should have said “some ChCh residents”: At least I can speak for myself and others who have been vocal on the listserve. We absolutely have no more rights than any other ChCh resident but this is not going to be decided in a democratic way where people will get a chance to vote and in the end majority will prevail. If that happened and I came out on the losing side I would absolutely accept the outcome but this process is totally opaque so what more can we do but write petitions and send emails to the listserve and show up at meetings? I don’t want more rights than others but I will defend mine to the best of my abilities. Based on the Post article, it’s clear the other side is campaigning hard.

Hello, welcome to representative government! You must have just moved here from Referendumsforeverythingistan and haven’t yet learned our ways. That’s so great, one of the best things about CCDC is the international diversity.

[Anonymous]

It is called Block Busting.

[Anonymous]

Why would low income families WANT to live in CC, Bethesda or Potomac?

The public transit is pretty poor and they are quite sleepy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would low income families WANT to live in CC, Bethesda or Potomac?

The public transit is pretty poor and they are quite sleepy.

Nearby jobs and high scoring public schools.

[Anonymous]

It’s a developer fox in a henhouse. They will promise affordable units, the city will mismanage that and the only people that will be happy in the end are the rich developers

[Anonymous]

A mixed-income building co-located with a community center is EXACTLY the way to get Affordable Housing done in CC and similar neighborhoods.

Hopefully the residents will turn their attention to amenities that will benefit their entire community because that is where they might actually get some concessions. I doubt they can actually stop this development.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure all the CC residents consider themselves to be progressive, have rainbow flags, and black lives matter signs in their yard. But when it comes time to walk the walk, look at them squirming now. They're the same dbags who block the purple line for the entire region and now want to block affordable housing because some brown people might move in. Just the same kinds of reasoning they used to block the purple line.

Why is it that areas like Silver Spring etc. are the ones that have to deal with all of the affordable housing issues? It's time for other areas of the county and city to put up or shut up. Time to build affordable housing in areas of Potomac, Bethesda, and CC.

What affordable housing issues?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/12/16/dc-affordable-housing-subsidies/

But there are no issues around affordable housing! It is the best thing ever for everyone!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure all the CC residents consider themselves to be progressive, have rainbow flags, and black lives matter signs in their yard. But when it comes time to walk the walk, look at them squirming now. They're the same dbags who block the purple line for the entire region and now want to block affordable housing because some brown people might move in. Just the same kinds of reasoning they used to block the purple line.

Why is it that areas like Silver Spring etc. are the ones that have to deal with all of the affordable housing issues? It's time for other areas of the county and city to put up or shut up. Time to build affordable housing in areas of Potomac, Bethesda, and CC.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, the article is a hit job meant to make the neighborhood look bad. It should be fair to ask effected officials questions like:

How exactly will the community center and library be build out?

What amenities will be provided?

Will there be any green space left reserved?

Will there be a playground?

Will there still be a basketball/pickleball corurt?

Why can’t the city pay to develop these city owned resources which are available to and used by city-wide residents now?

Is this the best location to add housing when there are numerous other housing projects in flight nearby and many currently available units in the neighborhood?

But of course, when you ask questions like that you get slammed as racist and anti-affordable housing.

You do get to ask those questions. There’s a whole democratic system of government whereby you get to influence the answers.

This is exactly what ChCh residents are up in arms. The existence of some kind of process in no way ensures that we will like the outcomes. We feel like the city will end up doing whatever they want no matter the opposition. And on top of everything we’ll be vilified for being “racist”.

Once again, you are trying to speak for everyone who lives in CCDC, and are also suggesting that all are in agreement with *your* views. I don't know anyone in the neighborhood who is "up in arms" about the proposed development. In my opinion, there has been a lot of irrational fear-mongering coming from a small group of households opposed to the development. Why should a subset of residents have such great influence in the matter?

Fair enough, I should have said “some ChCh residents”: At least I can speak for myself and others who have been vocal on the listserve. We absolutely have no more rights than any other ChCh resident but this is not going to be decided in a democratic way where people will get a chance to vote and in the end majority will prevail. If that happened and I came out on the losing side I would absolutely accept the outcome but this process is totally opaque so what more can we do but write petitions and send emails to the listserve and show up at meetings? I don’t want more rights than others but I will defend mine to the best of my abilities. Based on the Post article, it’s clear the other side is campaigning hard.

Why should only people in Chevy Chase get to decide this? The only way we are going to get more housing it for local interests to not be able to veto it. The entire city should get to decide -- putting some affordable housing on a main corridor in Ward 3 (with bus access to downtown and the metro) seems to make sense. There are other parks and playgrounds nearby (and they can develop this land to leave some of the space for parks/playgrounds anyway).

[Anonymous]

I honestly don’t understand why poor people think they are entitled to live in rich people neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s a developer fox in a henhouse. They will promise affordable units, the city will mismanage that and the only people that will be happy in the end are the rich developers

+1

NAILED IT.