Is DC on the way to being San Francisco ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:According to DCUM, DC has been dying for 40 years.

The trajectory DC was on in the Williams/Fenty era is what people compare back to. There was hope that the whole city was on the right-path. Its been a lot of two-steps forward two-steps back since. Progress is very neighborhood or even block specific.

This, except I feel like we had two steps forward between Williams and Fenty, took one step back immediately when Vince Gray took office, and more recently took another step back into a massive sinkhole since 2020.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Feds are moving back into the office minium of 3 days/week before 2024 election. It’s happening.

+1 OPM will be doing a very aggressive push this fall for BTO. By spring ‘24 most agencies with offices in DC will be back in the majority of the week.

Good luck with that, lol.

We recently hired in our agency, and so many of the younger applicants are simply not going to take the job if they are required to come in person. We've already had difficulty filling positions.

A lot of the private sector allows full-time telework. They can make more money working in the private sector, AND have more flexibility.

The percentage of job listings that even offer hybrid work is shockingly small:



Source: https://apolloacademy.com/job-openings-offering-work-from-home/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Feds are moving back into the office minium of 3 days/week before 2024 election. It’s happening.

+1 OPM will be doing a very aggressive push this fall for BTO. By spring ‘24 most agencies with offices in DC will be back in the majority of the week.

Good luck with that, lol.

We recently hired in our agency, and so many of the younger applicants are simply not going to take the job if they are required to come in person. We've already had difficulty filling positions.

A lot of the private sector allows full-time telework. They can make more money working in the private sector, AND have more flexibility.

The percentage of job listings that even offer hybrid work is shockingly small:



Source: https://apolloacademy.com/job-openings-offering-work-from-home/

That seems to mix blue and white collar jobs. In cities like DC, its the white collar jobs that are going to move the needle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like the city can be propped up pretty well by wards WOTP because if you look at maps at all the carjackings and shootings, there are very very few west of the park. Anecdotally I see less extreme antisocial driving over there too. Those people aren’t the ones hearing gunshots daily and choosing to vote with their feet and leave. It’s the high income people in the previously gentrifying areas. The city will lose part of its tax base and I think already is, but will get by with some belt tightening due to the absurd amount of wealth that will stay in WOTP completely unbothered. Their taxes may go up some.

You know there are a lot of wonderful neighborhoods EOTP that have no issues with crime right? Everything does not revolve around WOTP. I live in NE and live in a wonderful part of town. The houses are still going quickly. You are very limited in your thinking of DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Feds are moving back into the office minium of 3 days/week before 2024 election. It’s happening.

+1 OPM will be doing a very aggressive push this fall for BTO. By spring ‘24 most agencies with offices in DC will be back in the majority of the week.

Good luck with that, lol.

We recently hired in our agency, and so many of the younger applicants are simply not going to take the job if they are required to come in person. We've already had difficulty filling positions.

A lot of the private sector allows full-time telework. They can make more money working in the private sector, AND have more flexibility.

The percentage of job listings that even offer hybrid work is shockingly small:



Source: https://apolloacademy.com/job-openings-offering-work-from-home/

That seems to mix blue and white collar jobs. In cities like DC, its the white collar jobs that are going to move the needle.

This.

Even at our fed agency, they have been hiring people and allowing them to live in other states. White collar jobs can often be done remotely.

Even the FDA has said that they are going to allow workers to predominantly telework.

Feds will NOT be going back into the offices full-time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like the city can be propped up pretty well by wards WOTP because if you look at maps at all the carjackings and shootings, there are very very few west of the park. Anecdotally I see less extreme antisocial driving over there too. Those people aren’t the ones hearing gunshots daily and choosing to vote with their feet and leave. It’s the high income people in the previously gentrifying areas. The city will lose part of its tax base and I think already is, but will get by with some belt tightening due to the absurd amount of wealth that will stay in WOTP completely unbothered. Their taxes may go up some.

You know there are a lot of wonderful neighborhoods EOTP that have no issues with crime right? Everything does not revolve around WOTP. I live in NE and live in a wonderful part of town. The houses are still going quickly. You are very limited in your thinking of DC.

These people here still think it's like 1995 and going east of 16th street is harrowing. It's absurd.

Beautiful neighborhoods and lots of mixing of nationalities, backgrounds, races, etc occur in tons of neighborhoods east of 16th and north of the capitol complex.

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Np. Which NE neighborhood are you talking about? I live in Shaw in NW Love hate relationship. Been here for a long time. Im not blind to the crime. The gentrification is dizzying. But most NE neighborhoods i know do have crime, like Woodridge, Brentwood, Michigan Park. So where are you referring to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like the city can be propped up pretty well by wards WOTP because if you look at maps at all the carjackings and shootings, there are very very few west of the park. Anecdotally I see less extreme antisocial driving over there too. Those people aren’t the ones hearing gunshots daily and choosing to vote with their feet and leave. It’s the high income people in the previously gentrifying areas. The city will lose part of its tax base and I think already is, but will get by with some belt tightening due to the absurd amount of wealth that will stay in WOTP completely unbothered. Their taxes may go up some.

You know there are a lot of wonderful neighborhoods EOTP that have no issues with crime right? Everything does not revolve around WOTP. I live in NE and live in a wonderful part of town. The houses are still going quickly. You are very limited in your thinking of DC.

These people here still think it's like 1995 and going east of 16th street is harrowing. It's absurd.

Beautiful neighborhoods and lots of mixing of nationalities, backgrounds, races, etc occur in tons of neighborhoods east of 16th and north of the capitol complex.

Right. Beautiful neighborhoods where you would never allow your child to attend their local public school. Got it.

[Anonymous]

Remember the movie Escape from New York? That is the fate of all democratically run major cities over the next decade or two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, definitely if the Feds don’t return to work at least 3 days a week the hospitality industry will collapse and the tax base along with it. DC will be just like San Francisco in 2-3 years if work from home continues.

unless they adapt and why force people to go to an office just to support a hospitality industry that apparently is no longer necessary

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like the city can be propped up pretty well by wards WOTP because if you look at maps at all the carjackings and shootings, there are very very few west of the park. Anecdotally I see less extreme antisocial driving over there too. Those people aren’t the ones hearing gunshots daily and choosing to vote with their feet and leave. It’s the high income people in the previously gentrifying areas. The city will lose part of its tax base and I think already is, but will get by with some belt tightening due to the absurd amount of wealth that will stay in WOTP completely unbothered. Their taxes may go up some.

You know there are a lot of wonderful neighborhoods EOTP that have no issues with crime right? Everything does not revolve around WOTP. I live in NE and live in a wonderful part of town. The houses are still going quickly. You are very limited in your thinking of DC.

These people here still think it's like 1995 and going east of 16th street is harrowing. It's absurd.

Beautiful neighborhoods and lots of mixing of nationalities, backgrounds, races, etc occur in tons of neighborhoods east of 16th and north of the capitol complex.

Right. Beautiful neighborhoods where you would never allow your child to attend their local public school. Got it.

I once crossed 16th to shop at the Whole Foods over there. It wasn't that scary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Remember the movie Escape from New York? That is the fate of all democratically run major cities over the next decade or two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Remember the movie Escape from New York? That is the fate of all democratically run major cities over the next decade or two.

#Truth

The Democrats have run our cities into the ground.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Remember the movie Escape from New York? That is the fate of all democratically run major cities over the next decade or two.

#Truth

The Democrats have run our cities into the ground.

And they’re now bringing it to the suburbs. Too late to change the trajectory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like the city can be propped up pretty well by wards WOTP because if you look at maps at all the carjackings and shootings, there are very very few west of the park. Anecdotally I see less extreme antisocial driving over there too. Those people aren’t the ones hearing gunshots daily and choosing to vote with their feet and leave. It’s the high income people in the previously gentrifying areas. The city will lose part of its tax base and I think already is, but will get by with some belt tightening due to the absurd amount of wealth that will stay in WOTP completely unbothered. Their taxes may go up some.

You know there are a lot of wonderful neighborhoods EOTP that have no issues with crime right? Everything does not revolve around WOTP. I live in NE and live in a wonderful part of town. The houses are still going quickly. You are very limited in your thinking of DC.

These people here still think it's like 1995 and going east of 16th street is harrowing. It's absurd.

Beautiful neighborhoods and lots of mixing of nationalities, backgrounds, races, etc occur in tons of neighborhoods east of 16th and north of the capitol complex.

Right. Beautiful neighborhoods where you would never allow your child to attend their local public school. Got it.

+1. I met a lot of these couples during the 2014 DCPS boundary revision process. They bought houses in affordable “amazing” neighborhoods in Brookland, Petworth, etc. They just LOVED the diversity. Then….little Johnny and Larla came along. And overnight they became rabid proponents for citywide elementary schools. You could see the fear in their eyes as the kids approached elementary school. They were foaming out the mouth arguing their kids had just as much right to attend schools in AU park as the couples who lived in AU Park. It was bizarre and they were unhinged.