Data on USAO Criminal Prosecutions in DC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read this thread, too, in which an MPD officer says USAO almost never discloses (to anyone) why a case was dropped or a warrant was rejected. There's zero transparency.

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1636692232349573122

So those of you (Jeff) who assert that they're dropping so many cases solely because of shoddy police work probably should find another canard to push (besides, nowhere does the evidence suggest this).

Those of you who actually have representation should be lobbying Congress to pass a bill requiring more transparency from USAO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bifurcated system created by the Home Rule law creates a situation where everyone can point fingers at other players w/o accountability. USAO can say it's forensics lab, Council, MPD. MPD can say it's Council and USAO. Bowser can say it's Council, etc.

Players for those unfamiliar:

Bowser has control over forensics lab and MPD

Council writes laws and controls MPD funding

MPD makes arrests of juv and adults

Forensics lab is basis for crimes prosecuted by USAO and AG

AG elected in DC, prosecutes juv crime

Superior Court judges are appointed by President, apply laws written by DC Council

President appoints USAO and Sup Ct judges, proposed DOJ budget (USAO staff and courts)

Congress approves DOJ budget (USAO staff and courts) and
has oversight over DOJ including USAO

This should be stickied at the top of this forum. 90% of the posts about crime on here illustrate an ignorance of these basic facts.

As a way for the Council to evade responsibility? Sorry, no.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read this thread, too, in which an MPD officer says USAO almost never discloses (to anyone) why a case was dropped or a warrant was rejected. There's zero transparency.

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1636692232349573122

So those of you (Jeff) who assert that they're dropping so many cases solely because of shoddy police work probably should find another canard to push (besides, nowhere does the evidence suggest this).

I haven't actually asserted that at all. I have simply reported what the USAO says. Moreover, the fact that the USAO doesn't provide feedback — clearly something that should be corrected — does not mean that poor police work is not one of the reasons.

BTW, is it your position that the quality of policing in DC is beyond criticism? Every possible arrest is being made? All available evidence is being handled professionally? Policing in DC is, in fact flawless? That is your assertion?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bifurcated system created by the Home Rule law creates a situation where everyone can point fingers at other players w/o accountability. USAO can say it's forensics lab, Council, MPD. MPD can say it's Council and USAO. Bowser can say it's Council, etc.

Players for those unfamiliar:

Bowser has control over forensics lab and MPD

Council writes laws and controls MPD funding

MPD makes arrests of juv and adults

Forensics lab is basis for crimes prosecuted by USAO and AG

AG elected in DC, prosecutes juv crime

Superior Court judges are appointed by President, apply laws written by DC Council

President appoints USAO and Sup Ct judges, proposed DOJ budget (USAO staff and courts)

Congress approves DOJ budget (USAO staff and courts) and
has oversight over DOJ including USAO

This should be stickied at the top of this forum. 90% of the posts about crime on here illustrate an ignorance of these basic facts.

As a way for the Council to evade responsibility? Sorry, no.

Please don't let the facts stand in the way of hating Charles Allen!!!

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read this thread, too, in which an MPD officer says USAO almost never discloses (to anyone) why a case was dropped or a warrant was rejected. There's zero transparency.

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1636692232349573122

So those of you (Jeff) who assert that they're dropping so many cases solely because of shoddy police work probably should find another canard to push (besides, nowhere does the evidence suggest this).

I haven't actually asserted that at all. I have simply reported what the USAO says. Moreover, the fact that the USAO doesn't provide feedback — clearly something that should be corrected — does not mean that poor police work is not one of the reasons.

BTW, is it your position that the quality of policing in DC is beyond criticism? Every possible arrest is being made? All available evidence is being handled professionally? Policing in DC is, in fact flawless? That is your assertion?

No, of course not. Is it your assertion that the quality of Charles Allen's leadership is beyond criticism? Every possible action he takes is correct? All subjects are being handled professionally? His leader ship is, in fact, flawless? That is your assertion? It certainly seems as if you think that way.

[Anonymous]

I believe that certain Councilpersons are doing a terrible job and have legislated and influenced us into an unenviable situation. When we point out the examples, the answer is but it’s not their fault.

So let me flip this: please list concrete examples of how Charles Allen and Brianne Nadeau have improved the quality of life and safety for their constituents?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bifurcated system created by the Home Rule law creates a situation where everyone can point fingers at other players w/o accountability. USAO can say it's forensics lab, Council, MPD. MPD can say it's Council and USAO. Bowser can say it's Council, etc.

Players for those unfamiliar:

Bowser has control over forensics lab and MPD

Council writes laws and controls MPD funding

MPD makes arrests of juv and adults

Forensics lab is basis for crimes prosecuted by USAO and AG

AG elected in DC, prosecutes juv crime

Superior Court judges are appointed by President, apply laws written by DC Council

President appoints USAO and Sup Ct judges, proposed DOJ budget (USAO staff and courts)

Congress approves DOJ budget (USAO staff and courts) and
has oversight over DOJ including USAO

This should be stickied at the top of this forum. 90% of the posts about crime on here illustrate an ignorance of these basic facts.

As a way for the Council to evade responsibility? Sorry, no.

Please don't let the facts stand in the way of hating Charles Allen!!!

What facts, Jeff. You continue to believe that this is some kind of gotcha that demonstrates the criticism of the Council isn’t warranted. You seem to have limited understanding about how legislation and oversight work, and how political influence can be weilded. But sure, if you believe the Council is that weak and ineffective I guess we should get a control board.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read this thread, too, in which an MPD officer says USAO almost never discloses (to anyone) why a case was dropped or a warrant was rejected. There's zero transparency.

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1636692232349573122

So those of you (Jeff) who assert that they're dropping so many cases solely because of shoddy police work probably should find another canard to push (besides, nowhere does the evidence suggest this).

I haven't actually asserted that at all. I have simply reported what the USAO says. Moreover, the fact that the USAO doesn't provide feedback — clearly something that should be corrected — does not mean that poor police work is not one of the reasons.

BTW, is it your position that the quality of policing in DC is beyond criticism? Every possible arrest is being made? All available evidence is being handled professionally? Policing in DC is, in fact flawless? That is your assertion?

No, of course not. Is it your assertion that the quality of Charles Allen's leadership is beyond criticism? Every possible action he takes is correct? All subjects are being handled professionally? His leader ship is, in fact, flawless? That is your assertion? It certainly seems as if you think that way.

I'm glad that we agree that the MPD deserves some of the blame for the crime situation in DC. Given the similarity of our positions, I am surprised that you singled me out for criticism (which has proven invalid in any case). As for Charles Allen, he is not my Council Member and, as such, I don't follow him that closely. But, given that I have never encountered a politician with whom I was in complete agreement, I am sure there are positions he holds with which I disagree. But, generally, I think he is doing a terrific job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read this thread, too, in which an MPD officer says USAO almost never discloses (to anyone) why a case was dropped or a warrant was rejected. There's zero transparency.

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1636692232349573122

So those of you (Jeff) who assert that they're dropping so many cases solely because of shoddy police work probably should find another canard to push (besides, nowhere does the evidence suggest this).

I haven't actually asserted that at all. I have simply reported what the USAO says. Moreover, the fact that the USAO doesn't provide feedback — clearly something that should be corrected — does not mean that poor police work is not one of the reasons.

BTW, is it your position that the quality of policing in DC is beyond criticism? Every possible arrest is being made? All available evidence is being handled professionally? Policing in DC is, in fact flawless? That is your assertion?

No, of course not. Is it your assertion that the quality of Charles Allen's leadership is beyond criticism? Every possible action he takes is correct? All subjects are being handled professionally? His leader ship is, in fact, flawless? That is your assertion? It certainly seems as if you think that way.

I’m just going to say it here. Jeff has limited political acumen. He will weigh in on issues that he takes a side on by pressing arguments that have very little substance, and will refuse to listen to people who know more than he does. At least in this example, he is openly taking sides instead of censoring posts and comments, like he did regarding covid school closures and any criticism of WTU.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bifurcated system created by the Home Rule law creates a situation where everyone can point fingers at other players w/o accountability. USAO can say it's forensics lab, Council, MPD. MPD can say it's Council and USAO. Bowser can say it's Council, etc.

Players for those unfamiliar:

Bowser has control over forensics lab and MPD

Council writes laws and controls MPD funding

MPD makes arrests of juv and adults

Forensics lab is basis for crimes prosecuted by USAO and AG

AG elected in DC, prosecutes juv crime

Superior Court judges are appointed by President, apply laws written by DC Council

President appoints USAO and Sup Ct judges, proposed DOJ budget (USAO staff and courts)

Congress approves DOJ budget (USAO staff and courts) and
has oversight over DOJ including USAO

This should be stickied at the top of this forum. 90% of the posts about crime on here illustrate an ignorance of these basic facts.

As a way for the Council to evade responsibility? Sorry, no.

Please don't let the facts stand in the way of hating Charles Allen!!!

What facts, Jeff. You continue to believe that this is some kind of gotcha that demonstrates the criticism of the Council isn’t warranted. You seem to have limited understanding about how legislation and oversight work, and how political influence can be weilded. But sure, if you believe the Council is that weak and ineffective I guess we should get a control board.

You replied to a post listing factual information by rejecting the idea of making it more visible because you believe it would take away from criticizing the Council. Those are the facts. All in print above. Spin all you want, but you clearly stated that you prefer to keep factual data out of sight in order to easier criticize the Council.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read this thread, too, in which an MPD officer says USAO almost never discloses (to anyone) why a case was dropped or a warrant was rejected. There's zero transparency.

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1636692232349573122

So those of you (Jeff) who assert that they're dropping so many cases solely because of shoddy police work probably should find another canard to push (besides, nowhere does the evidence suggest this).

I haven't actually asserted that at all. I have simply reported what the USAO says. Moreover, the fact that the USAO doesn't provide feedback — clearly something that should be corrected — does not mean that poor police work is not one of the reasons.

BTW, is it your position that the quality of policing in DC is beyond criticism? Every possible arrest is being made? All available evidence is being handled professionally? Policing in DC is, in fact flawless? That is your assertion?

No, of course not. Is it your assertion that the quality of Charles Allen's leadership is beyond criticism? Every possible action he takes is correct? All subjects are being handled professionally? His leader ship is, in fact, flawless? That is your assertion? It certainly seems as if you think that way.

I'm glad that we agree that the MPD deserves some of the blame for the crime situation in DC. Given the similarity of our positions, I am surprised that you singled me out for criticism (which has proven invalid in any case). As for Charles Allen, he is not my Council Member and, as such, I don't follow him that closely. But, given that I have never encountered a politician with whom I was in complete agreement, I am sure there are positions he holds with which I disagree. But, generally, I think he is doing a terrific job.

How can you think he is doing a terrific job when he failed to support and likely actively underminef his constituent Denise Krepp’s years-long efforts to do *exactly what you are calling for here*?? She has been pounding on the AUSA’s door for years trying to get more transparency about prosecutions and calling attention to this problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read this thread, too, in which an MPD officer says USAO almost never discloses (to anyone) why a case was dropped or a warrant was rejected. There's zero transparency.

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1636692232349573122

So those of you (Jeff) who assert that they're dropping so many cases solely because of shoddy police work probably should find another canard to push (besides, nowhere does the evidence suggest this).

I haven't actually asserted that at all. I have simply reported what the USAO says. Moreover, the fact that the USAO doesn't provide feedback — clearly something that should be corrected — does not mean that poor police work is not one of the reasons.

BTW, is it your position that the quality of policing in DC is beyond criticism? Every possible arrest is being made? All available evidence is being handled professionally? Policing in DC is, in fact flawless? That is your assertion?

No, of course not. Is it your assertion that the quality of Charles Allen's leadership is beyond criticism? Every possible action he takes is correct? All subjects are being handled professionally? His leader ship is, in fact, flawless? That is your assertion? It certainly seems as if you think that way.

I’m just going to say it here. Jeff has limited political acumen. He will weigh in on issues that he takes a side on by pressing arguments that have very little substance, and will refuse to listen to people who know more than he does. At least in this example, he is openly taking sides instead of censoring posts and comments, like he did regarding covid school closures and any criticism of WTU.

And his rabid support of Elissa Silverman, and his very confident assertions that she would win reelection easily when the truth was that she had become very problematic -- going beyond the ethics issues against her -- and voters recognized that.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bifurcated system created by the Home Rule law creates a situation where everyone can point fingers at other players w/o accountability. USAO can say it's forensics lab, Council, MPD. MPD can say it's Council and USAO. Bowser can say it's Council, etc.

Players for those unfamiliar:

Bowser has control over forensics lab and MPD

Council writes laws and controls MPD funding

MPD makes arrests of juv and adults

Forensics lab is basis for crimes prosecuted by USAO and AG

AG elected in DC, prosecutes juv crime

Superior Court judges are appointed by President, apply laws written by DC Council

President appoints USAO and Sup Ct judges, proposed DOJ budget (USAO staff and courts)

Congress approves DOJ budget (USAO staff and courts) and
has oversight over DOJ including USAO

This should be stickied at the top of this forum. 90% of the posts about crime on here illustrate an ignorance of these basic facts.

As a way for the Council to evade responsibility? Sorry, no.

Please don't let the facts stand in the way of hating Charles Allen!!!

What facts, Jeff. You continue to believe that this is some kind of gotcha that demonstrates the criticism of the Council isn’t warranted. You seem to have limited understanding about how legislation and oversight work, and how political influence can be weilded. But sure, if you believe the Council is that weak and ineffective I guess we should get a control board.

You replied to a post listing factual information by rejecting the idea of making it more visible because you believe it would take away from criticizing the Council. Those are the facts. All in print above. Spin all you want, but you clearly stated that you prefer to keep factual data out of sight in order to easier criticize the Council.

It’s fine to make it visible but absurd to claim it’s some kind of rebuttal to criticism of the Council.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read this thread, too, in which an MPD officer says USAO almost never discloses (to anyone) why a case was dropped or a warrant was rejected. There's zero transparency.

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1636692232349573122

So those of you (Jeff) who assert that they're dropping so many cases solely because of shoddy police work probably should find another canard to push (besides, nowhere does the evidence suggest this).

I haven't actually asserted that at all. I have simply reported what the USAO says. Moreover, the fact that the USAO doesn't provide feedback — clearly something that should be corrected — does not mean that poor police work is not one of the reasons.

BTW, is it your position that the quality of policing in DC is beyond criticism? Every possible arrest is being made? All available evidence is being handled professionally? Policing in DC is, in fact flawless? That is your assertion?

No, of course not. Is it your assertion that the quality of Charles Allen's leadership is beyond criticism? Every possible action he takes is correct? All subjects are being handled professionally? His leader ship is, in fact, flawless? That is your assertion? It certainly seems as if you think that way.

I’m just going to say it here. Jeff has limited political acumen. He will weigh in on issues that he takes a side on by pressing arguments that have very little substance, and will refuse to listen to people who know more than he does. At least in this example, he is openly taking sides instead of censoring posts and comments, like he did regarding covid school closures and any criticism of WTU.

Poor baby. You made a fool of yourself and now have hurt feelings. I'm sorry that I interrupted your Charles Allen hatefest. Whatever will you do now?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read this thread, too, in which an MPD officer says USAO almost never discloses (to anyone) why a case was dropped or a warrant was rejected. There's zero transparency.

https://twitter.com/dccrimefacts/status/1636692232349573122

So those of you (Jeff) who assert that they're dropping so many cases solely because of shoddy police work probably should find another canard to push (besides, nowhere does the evidence suggest this).

I haven't actually asserted that at all. I have simply reported what the USAO says. Moreover, the fact that the USAO doesn't provide feedback — clearly something that should be corrected — does not mean that poor police work is not one of the reasons.

BTW, is it your position that the quality of policing in DC is beyond criticism? Every possible arrest is being made? All available evidence is being handled professionally? Policing in DC is, in fact flawless? That is your assertion?

No, of course not. Is it your assertion that the quality of Charles Allen's leadership is beyond criticism? Every possible action he takes is correct? All subjects are being handled professionally? His leader ship is, in fact, flawless? That is your assertion? It certainly seems as if you think that way.

I’m just going to say it here. Jeff has limited political acumen. He will weigh in on issues that he takes a side on by pressing arguments that have very little substance, and will refuse to listen to people who know more than he does. At least in this example, he is openly taking sides instead of censoring posts and comments, like he did regarding covid school closures and any criticism of WTU.

Poor baby. You made a fool of yourself and now have hurt feelings. I'm sorry that I interrupted your Charles Allen hatefest. Whatever will you do now?

Boy that was a convincing and substantive response.