How much of a bump do you get from legacy or athletic recruit status?

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Anonymous wrote:In short, legacy really varies from school to school.

For athletic recruits (meaning the coach wants to give you a slot), there are academic standards, but they are lower than what it take to get into the lottery for these schools. Cousin was recruited for HYPS, had choice for her sport (and older sibling was recruited athlete at HYPS and at H at the time). Decided not to play sport in fall of senior year. Had to resit for SATs to get a competitive score for an unhooked applicant. Rejected/waitlisted at HYPS but in at one non-ivy top ten.

The options are completely different when you are at that level athletically. That said, not that many kids are that good athletically. Just being an athlete without that level is just another EC.

The academic standards are not that much lower. They're low enough just to get enough of a pool for the position(s) recruiting for. If you need a pitcher and you're requirements are 1550 SAT and there are none . . . you're not getting a pitcher. Kids DO get turned down for not having the grades. Even at nonselective schools. A kid at our HS learned that the hard way this year.

Even 40 years ago - fabulous female athlete, especially in basketball and track (breaking state records fabulous), at my HS. High opinion of self not super motivated either in training or the classroom. Even the local regional university track teem didn't take her and that coach knew her as his daughters played with her. She got a D1 scholarship, don't think it was full ride, at another regional university (maybe Missouri?). She flunked out by mid frosh spring. Never went back to school. Truly a waste.

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Anonymous wrote:College counseling offices know whether legacy holds any benefit and will direct your child accordingly.
DC was encouraged by school college counselor to apply REA to reach Ivy (based on stats) where they are legacy rather than a T10 school they slightly favor. They likely knew that legacy factor would help in getting the REA acceptance.

Private school parent, I presume? Fortunately, the rest of us slobs can rely on the Common Data Sets and DCUM.

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DS graduated from a top ivy with a 3.1 high school gpa from a nova public school. It only took a sub 6 2k score

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that Harvard has a high share of legacies attending only tells you so much
Those kids are probably more likely to attend if admitted and their parents are probably better able to play the college admissions game to make their kids top candidates.

It is not as much of a boost as being a recruited athlete.

Being a recruited athlete is a HUGE advantage across the range of colleges. My kid is a longtime member of a DMV dive club that sends almost all of its seniors on to dive in college - most of them at the D1 level, including Ivies, Duke, UVA, etc. Many of these kids have the process wrapped up by the beginning of their junior year, when they announce on their social media that they have “committed” to XYZ University. Which really means that they have a verbal agreement with the coach to apply to the school
the following year, ED or EA. This so-called commitment is entered into after there has been vetting for academics, and it is always conditional (on maintaining certain academic and athletic levels of performance). That said, in the many years I’ve been observing this recruiting process for a fairly obscure, under-the-radar sport, those early-junior-year commitments almost always turn into actual admission offers senior year.

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Anonymous wrote:DS graduated from a top ivy with a 3.1 high school gpa from a nova public school. It only took a sub 6 2k score

Please translate the second sentence. Clearly, it’s a sport with which some of us are unfamiliar.

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Anonymous wrote:DS graduated from a top ivy with a 3.1 high school gpa from a nova public school. It only took a sub 6 2k score

Which Ivy? Don’t be coy.
Do tell.