Ivy was coined BECAUSE of athletics

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I thought the term "Ivy" came from that originally it was four schools, and the Latin numerals for that is IV which, if pronounced, sounds like "ivy"

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Anonymous wrote:Jeremy Lin got into Harvard because of basketball. As an Asian without basketball, he would have had a difficult time. He faced severe discrimination from all schools outside of MIT and Harvard and from the NBA, until he proved everyone wrong.

I wouldn't sell him short overall with the "because of basketball" comment. He was a great student at an elite public school (Palo Alto High).

I'm sure he was, but being Harvard's number one basketball recruit that year moved him from having a ~10%-50% chance of admission to a 100% chance of admission.

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Anonymous wrote:^ Except lacrosse, crew, soccer, etc. . . . And these teams are competing despite the fact that they are not giving athletic scholarships, there is no dining hall just for athletes, no tutoring specific for athletes, etc.

Basically, all the sports that D1 schools (and fans) don't care about.

Crew, not exactly a sport.

You mean all of the safety schools in D1?

Yeah, like all of the crappy schools like University of Michigan

Safety school for T10 kids.

Pity the Larry Pages of the world with U of M degrees!
I don't have a connection to Michigan but didn't an Obama daughter go there? I'm pretty sure someone like that could have gone anywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeremy Lin got into Harvard because of basketball. As an Asian without basketball, he would have had a difficult time. He faced severe discrimination from all schools outside of MIT and Harvard and from the NBA, until he proved everyone wrong.

I wouldn't sell him short overall with the "because of basketball" comment. He was a great student at an elite public school (Palo Alto High).

I'm sure he was, but being Harvard's number one basketball recruit that year moved him from having a ~10%-50% chance of admission to a 100% chance of admission.

Still not "because of." Lin was also not a highly touted recruit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeremy Lin got into Harvard because of basketball. As an Asian without basketball, he would have had a difficult time. He faced severe discrimination from all schools outside of MIT and Harvard and from the NBA, until he proved everyone wrong.

I wouldn't sell him short overall with the "because of basketball" comment. He was a great student at an elite public school (Palo Alto High).

I'm sure he was, but being Harvard's number one basketball recruit that year moved him from having a ~10%-50% chance of admission to a 100% chance of admission.

Still not "because of." Lin was also not a highly touted recruit.

No, it is "because of." Jeremy Lin got into Harvard because he was their #1 basketball recruit that year -- that doesn't mean that he was not otherwise academically qualified or that he couldn't have gotten in without basketball.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeremy Lin got into Harvard because of basketball. As an Asian without basketball, he would have had a difficult time. He faced severe discrimination from all schools outside of MIT and Harvard and from the NBA, until he proved everyone wrong.

I wouldn't sell him short overall with the "because of basketball" comment. He was a great student at an elite public school (Palo Alto High).

I'm sure he was, but being Harvard's number one basketball recruit that year moved him from having a ~10%-50% chance of admission to a 100% chance of admission.

Still not "because of." Lin was also not a highly touted recruit.

No, it is "because of." Jeremy Lin got into Harvard because he was their #1 basketball recruit that year -- that doesn't mean that he was not otherwise academically qualified or that he couldn't have gotten in without basketball.

That "because of" statement is disconnected from how the holistic admissions process Harvard has works.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Except lacrosse, crew, soccer, etc. . . . And these teams are competing despite the fact that they are not giving athletic scholarships, there is no dining hall just for athletes, no tutoring specific for athletes, etc.

Basically, all the sports that D1 schools (and fans) don't care about.

Crew, not exactly a sport.

You mean all of the safety schools in D1?

Yeah, like all of the crappy schools like University of Michigan

Safety school for T10 kids.

Pity the Larry Pages of the world with U of M degrees!
I don't have a connection to Michigan but didn't an Obama daughter go there? I'm pretty sure someone like that could have gone anywhere.

Whatever you say, safety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Except lacrosse, crew, soccer, etc. . . . And these teams are competing despite the fact that they are not giving athletic scholarships, there is no dining hall just for athletes, no tutoring specific for athletes, etc.

Basically, all the sports that D1 schools (and fans) don't care about.

Crew, not exactly a sport.

Just say you’ve never rowed and move on. The crew jocks, at least at my college were among the fittest athletes on campus.

Not sure what point you think you’re making about D1. Different people care about and support different things. If this is a new thought for you, savor it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeremy Lin got into Harvard because of basketball. As an Asian without basketball, he would have had a difficult time. He faced severe discrimination from all schools outside of MIT and Harvard and from the NBA, until he proved everyone wrong.

I wouldn't sell him short overall with the "because of basketball" comment. He was a great student at an elite public school (Palo Alto High).

I'm sure he was, but being Harvard's number one basketball recruit that year moved him from having a ~10%-50% chance of admission to a 100% chance of admission.

Still not "because of." Lin was also not a highly touted recruit.

No, it is "because of." Jeremy Lin got into Harvard because he was their #1 basketball recruit that year -- that doesn't mean that he was not otherwise academically qualified or that he couldn't have gotten in without basketball.

That "because of" statement is disconnected from how the holistic admissions process Harvard has works.

There is no "holistic" admissions process for recruited athletes, especially not for recruited athletes who are #1 on a coach's list. That just isn't how it works at the Ivies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeremy Lin got into Harvard because of basketball. As an Asian without basketball, he would have had a difficult time. He faced severe discrimination from all schools outside of MIT and Harvard and from the NBA, until he proved everyone wrong.

I wouldn't sell him short overall with the "because of basketball" comment. He was a great student at an elite public school (Palo Alto High).

I'm sure he was, but being Harvard's number one basketball recruit that year moved him from having a ~10%-50% chance of admission to a 100% chance of admission.

Why is that a problem?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Except lacrosse, crew, soccer, etc. . . . And these teams are competing despite the fact that they are not giving athletic scholarships, there is no dining hall just for athletes, no tutoring specific for athletes, etc.

Basically, all the sports that D1 schools (and fans) don't care about.

Crew, not exactly a sport.

You mean all of the safety schools in D1?

Yeah, like all of the crappy schools like University of Michigan

Safety school for T10 kids.

Pity the Larry Pages of the world with U of M degrees!
I don't have a connection to Michigan but didn't an Obama daughter go there? I'm pretty sure someone like that could have gone anywhere.

Whatever you say, safety.

DP. Like your kid is getting into a top 10 school LMAO

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeremy Lin got into Harvard because of basketball. As an Asian without basketball, he would have had a difficult time. He faced severe discrimination from all schools outside of MIT and Harvard and from the NBA, until he proved everyone wrong.

I wouldn't sell him short overall with the "because of basketball" comment. He was a great student at an elite public school (Palo Alto High).

I'm sure he was, but being Harvard's number one basketball recruit that year moved him from having a ~10%-50% chance of admission to a 100% chance of admission.

Why is that a problem?

I don't think anyone here said that it is.