What is the west going to do about this?

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Anonymous wrote:I hate to throw a wrench into it, but I'd go the capitalism route: money. There is a price to water and the price goes up until supply and demand are balanced.

Perhaps you have a floor where every individual gets 10 gallons per day for free, but after that we let the market rule.

Either that, or do what we do with all "natural" disasters. Blunder ahead with no guardrails and call for the federal government when bad things happen.

I live in AZ. They did that here a few years ago, where you had to pay a fine after a certain amount of water use. The wealthy (people & businesses) decided that the fine was preferable (or cheaper) to replacing their lawn, cutting back their water use, not having a swimming pool, etc.

The rich keep their golf courses and pools, and the poor struggles to wash their kids' clothes without being fined.

Your idea is ...certainly an American approach. Hilarious freedumb

Then make the penalty worse. If they aren't responsive to it, then it wasn't an effective consequence.

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Anonymous wrote:They should just make water out of the ocean, would solve all these issues

Desalination through reverse osmosis is very real, and the obvious and ultimate solution. They just have to wait out the environmentalists and the NIMBYs who will throw every wrench they can into the process until the vast majority of people who aren't paying attention are forced to confront the issue.

The ultimate solution is to not use so much water unnecessarily. Yes, desalination can help. But, the oceans have an ecosystem and balance too. You can just start effing with that and not expect to negatively impact the oceans.

You can take a LOT of water out of the Pacific Ocean before you start affecting its ecosystems. I mean...look at it on your kid's globe. It's pretty big, don't you think?

It will rain and the drought will go away. This is the most likely outcome.

hahahahah. ok. This is actually the least likely outcome.

No it is not. There is zero evidence that this drought is caused by climate change. Zero. Climate change is happening and there will be consequences and they may look like this. But this is not it. Nothing in the change so far caused this.

NP here. You need to read up about how the jet stream is changing due to climate change. The changes in the jet stream absolutely affect rainfall patterns in the west and are part of the ongoing drought.

Here are a few videos to begin with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9Da-PrBqMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLDg0TQtkVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wCq2Y9CB6Y

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Anonymous wrote:They should just make water out of the ocean, would solve all these issues

Desalination through reverse osmosis is very real, and the obvious and ultimate solution. They just have to wait out the environmentalists and the NIMBYs who will throw every wrench they can into the process until the vast majority of people who aren't paying attention are forced to confront the issue.

The ultimate solution is to not use so much water unnecessarily. Yes, desalination can help. But, the oceans have an ecosystem and balance too. You can just start effing with that and not expect to negatively impact the oceans.

You can take a LOT of water out of the Pacific Ocean before you start affecting its ecosystems. I mean...look at it on your kid's globe. It's pretty big, don't you think?

It will rain and the drought will go away. This is the most likely outcome.

hahahahah. ok. This is actually the least likely outcome.

No it is not. There is zero evidence that this drought is caused by climate change. Zero. Climate change is happening and there will be consequences and they may look like this. But this is not it. Nothing in the change so far caused this.

You had best produce some cites for that, Mr./Ms. Anonymous Climate Expert. Unless, of course, you're just talking out of your a--. Because your beliefs are not science.

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Over 2 million people in the U.S are water insecure and live by hauling water from streams, ditches, or grocery stores. It's not just in the West either.

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Anonymous wrote:This has been for years. There were early warning signs.
Just like in the DC area. Have you seen the Potomac lately when you cross one of the bridges. It has been running low for years. The downpour of rain doesn't help. It only causes serious runoff.

OMG, you might literally be too stupid to function

The Potomac River in DC is tidal. Say it with me: Tidal. T-I-D-A-L, Tidal!

Do you know what that means?

It means that even if it NEVER rained here again, the level of the Potomac in DC would still look EXACTLY like it does today.


JFC, I can’t believe people are this dumb.

OMG exactly what I thought when I read that post

It’s really hard to take these people talking about weather patterns and droughts in the DC area seriously when they don’t even understand the nature of the river right in front of them. But I’m sure they believe they’re “well informed”

Laugh all you want but you look foolish. Just because the tide affects the river level that certainly doesn't mean that without river water the level would be the same. That’s logically preposterous. If the water level was not affected by the amount of river flow then the water level would remain constant no matter what weather or upstream runoff which is obviously not the case based on simple observation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This has been for years. There were early warning signs.
Just like in the DC area. Have you seen the Potomac lately when you cross one of the bridges. It has been running low for years. The downpour of rain doesn't help. It only causes serious runoff.

OMG, you might literally be too stupid to function

The Potomac River in DC is tidal. Say it with me: Tidal. T-I-D-A-L, Tidal!

Do you know what that means?

It means that even if it NEVER rained here again, the level of the Potomac in DC would still look EXACTLY like it does today.


JFC, I can’t believe people are this dumb.

OMG exactly what I thought when I read that post

It’s really hard to take these people talking about weather patterns and droughts in the DC area seriously when they don’t even understand the nature of the river right in front of them. But I’m sure they believe they’re “well informed”

NP here. Can you explain that to me, as I have seen maps of the watershed for the Potomac river and thought that was where the fresh water originated in the river. If it was a purely tidal river, wouldn’t it be brackish or salt water if it pulled water from the Chesapeake?

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Anonymous wrote:This has been for years. There were early warning signs.
Just like in the DC area. Have you seen the Potomac lately when you cross one of the bridges. It has been running low for years. The downpour of rain doesn't help. It only causes serious runoff.

OMG, you might literally be too stupid to function

The Potomac River in DC is tidal. Say it with me: Tidal. T-I-D-A-L, Tidal!

Do you know what that means?

It means that even if it NEVER rained here again, the level of the Potomac in DC would still look EXACTLY like it does today.


JFC, I can’t believe people are this dumb.

OMG exactly what I thought when I read that post

It’s really hard to take these people talking about weather patterns and droughts in the DC area seriously when they don’t even understand the nature of the river right in front of them. But I’m sure they believe they’re “well informed”

NP here. Can you explain that to me, as I have seen maps of the watershed for the Potomac river and thought that was where the fresh water originated in the river. If it was a purely tidal river, wouldn’t it be brackish or salt water if it pulled water from the Chesapeake?

Like what would happen if the blue watershed never had rain? Would the water level remain same but turn brackish?