Bill Maher on casting decisions and appropriation

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He was spot on. Talking about acting gigs and controversy.

In this world, there is no Soul Man, there is no Eddie Murphy playing an old Jewish white man at the barbershop. Erik McCormack cannot play Will and in and on.

What's wrong with that?

It sucks the joy out of life.

LOL. Soul Man and Barbershop never brought joy into life to begin with, so their absence would not suck the joy out.

Soul Man brought a lot of joy to my life.

Eddie Murphy playing an old Jewish white guy was hysterical! Lots of joy.

[Anonymous]

You know why race essentialism won't last? Because it's so incredibly boring. The woke police can't fight humor because they have none of their own.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He’s exactly right. Actors are …. Actors. They’re by definition taking on a role. So so so agree with him.

But the when the roles are so siloed and few opportunities for Latinos to play much other than gang members is where we are, we need to consider things. The notion that the right person for the role has to be someone like James Franco assumes that there aren't any Latino actors who could play the roles and also be the right person.

They audition before casting. I’m sure they auditioned Latinos.

The role should go to the best actor. Period.

You're sure of that, huh? Do you realize people like Franco don't even have to read for roles...they are just offered them usually?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So if all the roles are predominantly filled by one race we believe all those roles have gone to the "best" actor each and every time?

Apparently. because you know, white people are 80% of the time the best and only choice. /s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Google images of young Fidel Castro demonstrate that Franco looks just like him. It’s perfect casting.

What? You do not need to look like an actor be the "best" for the part. In fact, physical resemblance is such a small part of casting a biopic. Not a bio pic, but a recent exampe...Miles Teller looks NOTHINg like Anthony Edwards, but with good acting and costuming, he was totally believable as Goose's son.

Examples: meryl Streep as Margaret Thatcher or PSH as Capote or Leo as the Wolf of Wall street.

[Anonymous]

I loathe Bill Maher but like, on this specific issue I don't like disaGREE entirely but think he glosses over the important thing that there isn't really parity in auditioning so it is hard to make that assessment. I think in the future when broad representation is just, how things are, instead of something people are fighting for this will be a non issue.

That said, he is a bloviating buffoon who is less and less relevant and just generally offensive and crazy. I can occasionally think someone like that has an opinion that is understandable without also thinking they are a good or worthwhile person.

- Liberal who hated Maher long before cancel culture was a thing

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Google images of young Fidel Castro demonstrate that Franco looks just like him. It’s perfect casting.

What? You do not need to look like an actor be the "best" for the part. In fact, physical resemblance is such a small part of casting a biopic. Not a bio pic, but a recent exampe...Miles Teller looks NOTHINg like Anthony Edwards, but with good acting and costuming, he was totally believable as Goose's son.

Examples: meryl Streep as Margaret Thatcher or PSH as Capote or Leo as the Wolf of Wall street.

But Franco looks like Castro *and* is a talented actor with celebrity status.

Why look any further when he brings the total package?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Muslim, democrat and an immigrant here. I think Bill Maher is spot on. And if you're not muslim you have no right to comment on whether he is anti-muslim or not. We are not a monolith and don't need you to speak for us.

I'm also Muslim, and was a huge fan. I just think he's gotten old and he is an annoying atheist - the preachy kind and he does have a lot of opinions about Islam when he very clearly has not educated himself at all. Did I laugh at his "islam means peace- sure a piece of you over here, a piece of you over there!" bit, yes, I did. I just think he is old and out of touch, and he probably knows no observant Muslims and he has stupid old man opinions like thinking that people should use anglicized names b.c it makes life easier for you instead of embracing a more educated, globalist, informed and sophisticated ethos. He's like Hitchens- I remember cringing so hard when Hitchens addressed Mos Def as Mr. Definately, thats a racial micro aggression. They are all these old men who are living in this pre 2010s reality kowtowing to Anglo Saxon liberalism, its old and tired and we have evolved. he actually has a lot of the same prejudices that Trump has and is a product of the same culture more or less. John Stewart im a fan of- he is also old but he has evolved. people have to realize, white is no longer the default, you have to carry the weight of whiteness in the same way that POC carry stereotypes about their identities, bill maher is an a$$ and I find hetero men of his age with no steady relationship too be off, there is something wrong with them unless they are widowers. Straight, single men long past their forties are losers who haven't really experienced the full breadth of life, they are stunted and just.. off like bad fish. Something permanently puerile about a heterosexual man who chooses that for himself so late in life. cant bring himself to mature, to create and nurture a family or anyone, just hedonistic and.. puerile is the best word- raw, unformed, inexperienced, small minded, emotionally stunted. If yo are losing your hair and have never nurtured a lot time. commitment to anyone other than yourself- I don't he's kept spotted plant alive, you are missing out on the opportunities than make adults adults- on experiencing life and gathering wisdom but he pretends he is so wise. I think he started out pretty smart but his lack of life experience and stunted reality shows. He's the sort of person who eats the same meal at the sam eatable of the same restaurant for years on end, its end of life without having lived the messiness of the middle.

[Anonymous]

He's disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Muslim, democrat and an immigrant here. I think Bill Maher is spot on. And if you're not muslim you have no right to comment on whether he is anti-muslim or not. We are not a monolith and don't need you to speak for us.

I'm also Muslim, and was a huge fan. I just think he's gotten old and he is an annoying atheist - the preachy kind and he does have a lot of opinions about Islam when he very clearly has not educated himself at all. Did I laugh at his "islam means peace- sure a piece of you over here, a piece of you over there!" bit, yes, I did. I just think he is old and out of touch, and he probably knows no observant Muslims and he has stupid old man opinions like thinking that people should use anglicized names b.c it makes life easier for you instead of embracing a more educated, globalist, informed and sophisticated ethos. He's like Hitchens- I remember cringing so hard when Hitchens addressed Mos Def as Mr. Definately, thats a racial micro aggression. They are all these old men who are living in this pre 2010s reality kowtowing to Anglo Saxon liberalism, its old and tired and we have evolved. he actually has a lot of the same prejudices that Trump has and is a product of the same culture more or less. John Stewart im a fan of- he is also old but he has evolved. people have to realize, white is no longer the default, you have to carry the weight of whiteness in the same way that POC carry stereotypes about their identities, bill maher is an a$$ and I find hetero men of his age with no steady relationship too be off, there is something wrong with them unless they are widowers. Straight, single men long past their forties are losers who haven't really experienced the full breadth of life, they are stunted and just.. off like bad fish. Something permanently puerile about a heterosexual man who chooses that for himself so late in life. cant bring himself to mature, to create and nurture a family or anyone, just hedonistic and.. puerile is the best word- raw, unformed, inexperienced, small minded, emotionally stunted. If yo are losing your hair and have never nurtured a lot time. commitment to anyone other than yourself- I don't he's kept spotted plant alive, you are missing out on the opportunities than make adults adults- on experiencing life and gathering wisdom but he pretends he is so wise. I think he started out pretty smart but his lack of life experience and stunted reality shows. He's the sort of person who eats the same meal at the sam eatable of the same restaurant for years on end, its end of life without having lived the messiness of the middle.

FWIW, Maher has been in a long term relationship with the same woman since 2014.

He’s a comedian who tours throughout the year. A nomad. He was wise to avoid settling down knowing he spends his life on the road.

[Anonymous]

Love him so much. He’s calling out all the woke nonsense, and he’s 100% right. Especially about the transgender fad:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mMBzfUj5zsg