Medium to Large School - easy admissions

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Also, you speak with authority based on an experience you didn't have, and judge me based on an experience you didn't have (and based on a wayward inference of what I shared). Fine to share, but don't play the arbiter of all. Not cool.

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Anonymous wrote:How easy?

In VA, VCU or GMU
In MD, Towson or UMBC

But these aren't 'open admissions' level of easy, just not as competitive as some other state options.

True, but OP needs to know that the 75th percentile at GMU last fall had a 4.0 and a 30 ACT. It's not as easy to get in to as some on DCUM think. And it's the largest research university in the Commonwealth, so actually HUGE. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

Yes, I didn't know how to interpret their question-- whether it was somewhere between medium and large, or just bigger than 8k. GMU has 27k undergraduates so a lot of its size comes from grad students. But, yes, it's very big.

Who is the poster who obsessed over the SCHEV 75th percentile all the time? That means that THREE QUARTERS of entering students have lower numbers.

Because if you are applying from Nova and not a URM or First Generation that’s where you need to aim. The rest is for legacies (yes GMU has them); And band stars (scholarships if willing to play in pep band); athletes, especially basketball; OOS and international for diversity; Korean students to encourage a flow of students to and from Mason Korea; first generation; URM; financially needy students and the brilliant kids going for the lucrative cybersecurity major.

Yes, I've heard this same tired refrain from you as well, the data says it's not true, and you have nothing to back up your opinion. The overwhelming majority of GMU in state undergrads are from NOVA, with almost 10,000 of them from Fairfax County alone. It's mathematically impossible for the typical NOVA student to be in the top 25 percent of enrolled GMU students stat wise given the percentage of the student body that is from the area.

Your argument might -- might -- work if you're talking about UVA, but not GMU.



Read and learn. https://research.schev.edu/iprofile/232186/George-Mason-University

I know about SCHEV. That link says nothing about the requirements for admission from NOVA. But it does confirm that that’s where most GMU students come from.

No dog in this fight, but this link may be relevant on the subject: https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/b8_admissions_locality.asp

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Anonymous wrote:How easy?

In VA, VCU or GMU
In MD, Towson or UMBC

But these aren't 'open admissions' level of easy, just not as competitive as some other state options.

True, but OP needs to know that the 75th percentile at GMU last fall had a 4.0 and a 30 ACT. It's not as easy to get in to as some on DCUM think. And it's the largest research university in the Commonwealth, so actually HUGE. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

Yes, I didn't know how to interpret their question-- whether it was somewhere between medium and large, or just bigger than 8k. GMU has 27k undergraduates so a lot of its size comes from grad students. But, yes, it's very big.

Who is the poster who obsessed over the SCHEV 75th percentile all the time? That means that THREE QUARTERS of entering students have lower numbers.

Because if you are applying from Nova and not a URM or First Generation that’s where you need to aim. The rest is for legacies (yes GMU has them); And band stars (scholarships if willing to play in pep band); athletes, especially basketball; OOS and international for diversity; Korean students to encourage a flow of students to and from Mason Korea; first generation; URM; financially needy students and the brilliant kids going for the lucrative cybersecurity major.

Yes, I've heard this same tired refrain from you as well, the data says it's not true, and you have nothing to back up your opinion. The overwhelming majority of GMU in state undergrads are from NOVA, with almost 10,000 of them from Fairfax County alone. It's mathematically impossible for the typical NOVA student to be in the top 25 percent of enrolled GMU students stat wise given the percentage of the student body that is from the area.

Your argument might -- might -- work if you're talking about UVA, but not GMU.



Read and learn. https://research.schev.edu/iprofile/232186/George-Mason-University

I know about SCHEV. That link says nothing about the requirements for admission from NOVA. But it does confirm that that’s where most GMU students come from.

No dog in this fight, but this link may be relevant on the subject: https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/b8_admissions_locality.asp

88% acceptance rate to GMU from Fairfax County. I actually think this is the great thing about GMU--and really why they have just let it grow in size rather than selectivity. It attracts enough really top students, it's an R1 institution, but they still will accept a wide range of students--and do a pretty good job at educating them and getting them jobs--it has one of the strongest ROIs. I think we need more schools that don't define themselves by how hard it is to get into, but how valuable an education students receive.

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My kid had very poor stats and he got in (with some merit) at University of Hartford. He didn’t attend for various reasons but I know one recent graduate and one current student. They both have positive things to say about the school.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here: we're in the DMV. By "easy" I don't mean open admissions, but where a 3.2 GPA can get in.
The post about 1/2 the kids getting turned down from West Virginia is depressing. I was banking on that one.

Your 3.2 GPA will get you in and if your SAT breaks 1000 you'll get merit aid. Over half the students are out of state and over 80% are admitted.
https://admissions.wvu.edu/cost-and-aid/scholarship-chart#sod

Yep. 3.2 gets you into WVU and GMU, as well as VCU and Roanoke.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, you speak with authority based on an experience you didn't have, and judge me based on an experience you didn't have (and based on a wayward inference of what I shared). Fine to share, but don't play the arbiter of all. Not cool.

I actually do know what I’m talking about and have a lot of experience with GmU. How else woujd I know about scholarships for pep band or Mason Korea?

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you to all the VCU commentators! Very helpful and you are much appreciated. Thanks in advance to any additional posters!

My PT went to VCU. She said it is a high crime area. I was like "you mean thefts and stuff?" She's like "no, drugs and murders." She wasn't kidding. My kid's college-parent-facebook group also speaks about VCU and CNU being schools where they are bad areas where living off campus would not be safe. So, VCU and CNU should be looked at carefully in person, not just virtual visits.

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Anonymous wrote:Dc goes to vcu. Kid is very low key, not a big party person, and has found vcu an easy place to be. Only thing noticed, is that it is extremely diverse, but not a lot of cross over between the groups, which was a little disappointing to my kid.

I went to grad school at vcu and lived in Richmond after that and would say the lack of crossover is true of vcu and Richmond overall. I think part of the issue within vcu is separation of schools. Non majors are limited in ability to participate in other schools/depts' classes, productions/ensembles, etc.

Again, I disagree based on my kid’s experience. In fact, you really have to work pretty hard to “stick with your own kind” in a school with no majority. I’d look inward and not outward if I were you. The school might not be the problem.

Excuse me? Why the personal slam? I'm just relaying my observations about the way the university is structured and how that affected crossover between programs (eg. music and theatre shared a building but had little crossover. Both sets of students would have benefitted from more exposure to the other). The lack of crossover in the city, I noticed in my side hustle as a cab driver. This was several years, so things could have changed. I had respect for your perspective until that last comment.

We must have a different understanding of “diversity” I guess. I wasn’t talking about diversity of majors and programs. I was talking about diversity of actual people.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, you speak with authority based on an experience you didn't have, and judge me based on an experience you didn't have (and based on a wayward inference of what I shared). Fine to share, but don't play the arbiter of all. Not cool.

Well, again, your example of lack of crossover made no sense when talking about diversity. It doesn’t surprise me at all that different programs and different majors held their classes in different buildings! That’s what every university does.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you to all the VCU commentators! Very helpful and you are much appreciated. Thanks in advance to any additional posters!

My PT went to VCU. She said it is a high crime area. I was like "you mean thefts and stuff?" She's like "no, drugs and murders." She wasn't kidding. My kid's college-parent-facebook group also speaks about VCU and CNU being schools where they are bad areas where living off campus would not be safe. So, VCU and CNU should be looked at carefully in person, not just virtual visits.

Stop with the hysteria please. It’s not a “high crime” area - it’s an urban campus, that’s all. Obviously street smarts are required. So much pearl clutching!

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you to all the VCU commentators! Very helpful and you are much appreciated. Thanks in advance to any additional posters!

My PT went to VCU. She said it is a high crime area. I was like "you mean thefts and stuff?" She's like "no, drugs and murders." She wasn't kidding. My kid's college-parent-facebook group also speaks about VCU and CNU being schools where they are bad areas where living off campus would not be safe. So, VCU and CNU should be looked at carefully in person, not just virtual visits.

I think you need to different between VCU and CNU here. VCU is in the middle of Richmond and directly borders/adjoins a sketchy area. (Please note I am NOT saying VCU isn't safe - you just have to take some sensible precautions.) As for CNU, there are indeed some sketchy areas of Newport News, but CNU does NOT adjoin any of those areas and there's no reason a student would live there. In fact, there is a country club that borders part of the school.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, you speak with authority based on an experience you didn't have, and judge me based on an experience you didn't have (and based on a wayward inference of what I shared). Fine to share, but don't play the arbiter of all. Not cool.

I actually do know what I’m talking about and have a lot of experience with GmU. How else woujd I know about scholarships for pep band or Mason Korea?

This was in reference to VCU! Someone was very judgy because she had a different perspective based on her kid's experience than I did based on my experience. We were really addressing different aspects of non-crossover, but that sure didn't stop her from making lots of assumptions and judgments!

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Anonymous wrote:Dc goes to vcu. Kid is very low key, not a big party person, and has found vcu an easy place to be. Only thing noticed, is that it is extremely diverse, but not a lot of cross over between the groups, which was a little disappointing to my kid.

I went to grad school at vcu and lived in Richmond after that and would say the lack of crossover is true of vcu and Richmond overall. I think part of the issue within vcu is separation of schools. Non majors are limited in ability to participate in other schools/depts' classes, productions/ensembles, etc.

Again, I disagree based on my kid’s experience. In fact, you really have to work pretty hard to “stick with your own kind” in a school with no majority. I’d look inward and not outward if I were you. The school might not be the problem.

Excuse me? Why the personal slam? I'm just relaying my observations about the way the university is structured and how that affected crossover between programs (eg. music and theatre shared a building but had little crossover. Both sets of students would have benefitted from more exposure to the other). The lack of crossover in the city, I noticed in my side hustle as a cab driver. This was several years, so things could have changed. I had respect for your perspective until that last comment.

We must have a different understanding of “diversity” I guess. I wasn’t talking about diversity of majors and programs. I was talking about diversity of actual people.

These are actual people. An apology for poor inference and gross judgment would be good. Even if it was about racial diversity, to assume someone chooses to "stick with their own kind" and essentially play into racial bias just because they shared their experience is really poor form. Why the need for judgment here? So petty.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol OP how the hell are we supposed to know where you’d be driving from? This site attracts a lot of folks who don’t live in the DMV, as well as folks who moved away because they think the DMV was so awful - yet they keep coming back here instead of moving on.

If people do t say where they live, the assumption is the DC area. This is a dc site.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you to all the VCU commentators! Very helpful and you are much appreciated. Thanks in advance to any additional posters!

My PT went to VCU. She said it is a high crime area. I was like "you mean thefts and stuff?" She's like "no, drugs and murders." She wasn't kidding. My kid's college-parent-facebook group also speaks about VCU and CNU being schools where they are bad areas where living off campus would not be safe. So, VCU and CNU should be looked at carefully in person, not just virtual visits.

Stop with the hysteria please. It’s not a “high crime” area - it’s an urban campus, that’s all. Obviously street smarts are required. So much pearl clutching!

If denial helps you sleep better at night...sure...

https://patch.com/virginia/richmond/crime-down-vcu-still-higher-other-schools

It's far higher crime rate thsn ither Va schools and 6th highest crime rate nationally for schools over 25,000 students. Way to over achieve.