Middle School/High School Math Question

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Anonymous wrote:Some kids start Algebra 1 in 6th, in which case they are bused to the high school in 8th grade for first period math, then return to their school for the rest, with the understanding that they'll need to fill in math classes with dual enrollment at the community college or take whatever optional math classes are available at their high school.

You're only eligible for that acceleration if you're at one of the W feeders.

What is W feeders?

Same parent posting misinformation all the time. Same thing.
Many many W schools actively discourage it. Your child could have extremely high outlier MAP scores and they would say no way.

There are a handful of schools all over the county (RM feeders, DCC feeders) that each might have 1 child accelerated. Some of those kids came from private. Some are really exceptional - and everyone keeps thinking their own kid is really exceptional but you are probably wrong because if your child were at this level the school would have allowed the skipping.

If your child is actually at TPMS you know the exceedingly few kids accelerated came from all over the county and your child would see this.

You are responding to wrong thread. What is W feeders?

A "W" feeder is an ES or MS that goes to Whitman, Winston Churchill, Wootton (or WJ, but really it's Poolsville). Whitman, Churchill and Wootton all have 80%+ kids meeting System of Maryland Entrance Requirements, so Poolesville should be in that club as well. Maybe it should be called W3P?

WJ, BCC, QO, RM, Blair, Wheaton and a bunch of others are about 60-70'ish% in terms of meeting System of Maryland Entrance Requirements. Surprising Blair isn't higher since it has the DCC Magnet Program.

I think what the poster was trying to say is that the "W" schools have more kids likely to go to college so MCPS is encouraging them to "follow the pack" versus carving out exceptions. I disagree with that view since it destroys what makes the Magnet or other accelerated programs special, but that's a differnent

Blaiir is a very diverse and large school so even if they have 1000-1500, the other 1500 will pull down scores.

Reality is kids at every school self segregate in MS/HS, especially in HS with the AP/honors tracks.

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Anonymous wrote:There are fewer than 100 current 6th graders in the county taking Algebra 1 this year out of over 10K 6th graders county-wide. All of them evidently have parents on dcum. Lol. Next year the process for taking Algebra 1 in 6th grade will be tightened further, so this special permission that was previously granted on a school by school basis will be handled by central office.

I think there are more than that except if you have access to the numbers. But, its still pretty low. That's too bad that it will go to central office especially for kids who get shut out of magnet options.

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Anonymous wrote:Some kids start Algebra 1 in 6th, in which case they are bused to the high school in 8th grade for first period math, then return to their school for the rest, with the understanding that they'll need to fill in math classes with dual enrollment at the community college or take whatever optional math classes are available at their high school.

You're only eligible for that acceleration if you're at one of the W feeders.

What is W feeders?

Most of the kids that take Algebra at TPMS come from Cold Spring because they get IM in 5th there.

I don't think that many take it in TPMS from what I hear. Only a handful or so. Its at other schools and those kids just skip IM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are fewer than 100 current 6th graders in the county taking Algebra 1 this year out of over 10K 6th graders county-wide. All of them evidently have parents on dcum. Lol. Next year the process for taking Algebra 1 in 6th grade will be tightened further, so this special permission that was previously granted on a school by school basis will be handled by central office.

I think there are more than that except if you have access to the numbers. But, its still pretty low. That's too bad that it will go to central office especially for kids who get shut out of magnet options.

Our local schools don't allow it but the kids that get bussed in from the rich schools were often allowed to take these classes so they have to accommodate them.

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Anonymous wrote:There are fewer than 100 current 6th graders in the county taking Algebra 1 this year out of over 10K 6th graders county-wide. All of them evidently have parents on dcum. Lol. Next year the process for taking Algebra 1 in 6th grade will be tightened further, so this special permission that was previously granted on a school by school basis will be handled by central office.

Carl Seward, head of secondary math.

He's leaving MCPS and going back to Arlington:

Wow. Ok. Then probably nobody is handling it?

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Anonymous wrote:Some kids start Algebra 1 in 6th, in which case they are bused to the high school in 8th grade for first period math, then return to their school for the rest, with the understanding that they'll need to fill in math classes with dual enrollment at the community college or take whatever optional math classes are available at their high school.

You're only eligible for that acceleration if you're at one of the W feeders.

What is W feeders?

Most of the kids that take Algebra at TPMS come from Cold Spring because they get IM in 5th there.

I don't think that many take it in TPMS from what I hear. Only a handful or so. Its at other schools and those kids just skip IM.

They're not allowed to skip IIM at TPMS. They'll only let a child take algebra and 6th if they'd already finished it in 5th. So only students whose schools like Cold spring that offer that have that option.

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Anonymous wrote:Some kids start Algebra 1 in 6th, in which case they are bused to the high school in 8th grade for first period math, then return to their school for the rest, with the understanding that they'll need to fill in math classes with dual enrollment at the community college or take whatever optional math classes are available at their high school.

You're only eligible for that acceleration if you're at one of the W feeders.

What is W feeders?

Most of the kids that take Algebra at TPMS come from Cold Spring because they get IM in 5th there.

I don't think that many take it in TPMS from what I hear. Only a handful or so. Its at other schools and those kids just skip IM.

They're not allowed to skip IIM at TPMS. They'll only let a child take algebra and 6th if they'd already finished it in 5th. So only students whose schools like Cold spring that offer that have that option.

Which cohort are you referring to?

Among the first two cohorts after MCPS introduced the peer cohort criterion (cohorts currently finishing ninth and eighth) there were hardly any cold spring students at TPMS. (My understanding is that it was the same with the current seventh grade cohort, but I am not sure.) Before that, (even when cold spring used to send a big group of kids to TPMS) TPMS used to have just a handful of kids every year who used to be a year (or more) ahead of others, and they were mostly from private schools. Yes, some of them were from W areas, but went private for ES or homeschooled. Getting acceleration in ES had become extremely difficult throughout the county ever since MCPS introduced curriculum 2.0.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some kids start Algebra 1 in 6th, in which case they are bused to the high school in 8th grade for first period math, then return to their school for the rest, with the understanding that they'll need to fill in math classes with dual enrollment at the community college or take whatever optional math classes are available at their high school.

You're only eligible for that acceleration if you're at one of the W feeders.

What is W feeders?

Most of the kids that take Algebra at TPMS come from Cold Spring because they get IM in 5th there.

I don't think that many take it in TPMS from what I hear. Only a handful or so. Its at other schools and those kids just skip IM.

They're not allowed to skip IIM at TPMS. They'll only let a child take algebra and 6th if they'd already finished it in 5th. So only students whose schools like Cold spring that offer that have that option.

Which cohort are you referring to?

Among the first two cohorts after MCPS introduced the peer cohort criterion (cohorts currently finishing ninth and eighth) there were hardly any cold spring students at TPMS. (My understanding is that it was the same with the current seventh grade cohort, but I am not sure.) Before that, (even when cold spring used to send a big group of kids to TPMS) TPMS used to have just a handful of kids every year who used to be a year (or more) ahead of others, and they were mostly from private schools. Yes, some of them were from W areas, but went private for ES or homeschooled. Getting acceleration in ES had become extremely difficult throughout the county ever since MCPS introduced curriculum 2.0.

Yes, there are a few kids at TPMS who are bussed in from Western Moco that had IM in 5th and that's why they're allowed to take Algebra in 6th.

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Anonymous wrote:Some kids start Algebra 1 in 6th, in which case they are bused to the high school in 8th grade for first period math, then return to their school for the rest, with the understanding that they'll need to fill in math classes with dual enrollment at the community college or take whatever optional math classes are available at their high school.

You're only eligible for that acceleration if you're at one of the W feeders.

What is W feeders?

Most of the kids that take Algebra at TPMS come from Cold Spring because they get IM in 5th there.

I don't think that many take it in TPMS from what I hear. Only a handful or so. Its at other schools and those kids just skip IM.

They're not allowed to skip IIM at TPMS. They'll only let a child take algebra and 6th if they'd already finished it in 5th. So only students whose schools like Cold spring that offer that have that option.

Which cohort are you referring to?

Among the first two cohorts after MCPS introduced the peer cohort criterion (cohorts currently finishing ninth and eighth) there were hardly any cold spring students at TPMS. (My understanding is that it was the same with the current seventh grade cohort, but I am not sure.) Before that, (even when cold spring used to send a big group of kids to TPMS) TPMS used to have just a handful of kids every year who used to be a year (or more) ahead of others, and they were mostly from private schools. Yes, some of them were from W areas, but went private for ES or homeschooled. Getting acceleration in ES had become extremely difficult throughout the county ever since MCPS introduced curriculum 2.0.

I have a 7th grader. I recall from his intro meeting after being selected to the program that there were about 5 kids who would be going straight into algebra. No idea what school they were from, but they are currently doing geometry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some kids start Algebra 1 in 6th, in which case they are bused to the high school in 8th grade for first period math, then return to their school for the rest, with the understanding that they'll need to fill in math classes with dual enrollment at the community college or take whatever optional math classes are available at their high school.

You're only eligible for that acceleration if you're at one of the W feeders.

What is W feeders?

Most of the kids that take Algebra at TPMS come from Cold Spring because they get IM in 5th there.

I don't think that many take it in TPMS from what I hear. Only a handful or so. Its at other schools and those kids just skip IM.

They're not allowed to skip IIM at TPMS. They'll only let a child take algebra and 6th if they'd already finished it in 5th. So only students whose schools like Cold spring that offer that have that option.

Glad my kid didn't go to TPMS and went to a school that allowed Algebra in 6th. You realize other schools allow Algebra in 6h without IM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Some kids start Algebra 1 in 6th, in which case they are bused to the high school in 8th grade for first period math, then return to their school for the rest, with the understanding that they'll need to fill in math classes with dual enrollment at the community college or take whatever optional math classes are available at their high school.

You're only eligible for that acceleration if you're at one of the W feeders.

What is W feeders?

Most of the kids that take Algebra at TPMS come from Cold Spring because they get IM in 5th there.

I don't think that many take it in TPMS from what I hear. Only a handful or so. Its at other schools and those kids just skip IM.

They're not allowed to skip IIM at TPMS. They'll only let a child take algebra and 6th if they'd already finished it in 5th. So only students whose schools like Cold spring that offer that have that option.

Glad my kid didn't go to TPMS and went to a school that allowed Algebra in 6th. You realize other schools allow Algebra in 6h without IM.

Yes, and the very best of them may even make it to Functions in 9th with many of those same TPMS kids who took Algebra in 7th.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some kids start Algebra 1 in 6th, in which case they are bused to the high school in 8th grade for first period math, then return to their school for the rest, with the understanding that they'll need to fill in math classes with dual enrollment at the community college or take whatever optional math classes are available at their high school.

You're only eligible for that acceleration if you're at one of the W feeders.

What is W feeders?

Most of the kids that take Algebra at TPMS come from Cold Spring because they get IM in 5th there.

I don't think that many take it in TPMS from what I hear. Only a handful or so. Its at other schools and those kids just skip IM.

They're not allowed to skip IIM at TPMS. They'll only let a child take algebra and 6th if they'd already finished it in 5th. So only students whose schools like Cold spring that offer that have that option.

Glad my kid didn't go to TPMS and went to a school that allowed Algebra in 6th. You realize other schools allow Algebra in 6h without IM.

What are those schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Some kids start Algebra 1 in 6th, in which case they are bused to the high school in 8th grade for first period math, then return to their school for the rest, with the understanding that they'll need to fill in math classes with dual enrollment at the community college or take whatever optional math classes are available at their high school.

You're only eligible for that acceleration if you're at one of the W feeders.

What is W feeders?

Most of the kids that take Algebra at TPMS come from Cold Spring because they get IM in 5th there.

I don't think that many take it in TPMS from what I hear. Only a handful or so. Its at other schools and those kids just skip IM.

They're not allowed to skip IIM at TPMS. They'll only let a child take algebra and 6th if they'd already finished it in 5th. So only students whose schools like Cold spring that offer that have that option.

Glad my kid didn't go to TPMS and went to a school that allowed Algebra in 6th. You realize other schools allow Algebra in 6h without IM.

Yes, and the very best of them may even make it to Functions in 9th with many of those same TPMS kids who took Algebra in 7th.

This is very true and all you parents complaining should read this.
Most of the kids in Functions took Algebra in 7th. The vast majority of the kids who took Algebra in 6th do not make it to Functions. Acceleration at this level does not mean very much so don't obsess about it so much. If your child is truly gifted in math your child will do fine in the regular pathway.

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Anonymous wrote:Some kids start Algebra 1 in 6th, in which case they are bused to the high school in 8th grade for first period math, then return to their school for the rest, with the understanding that they'll need to fill in math classes with dual enrollment at the community college or take whatever optional math classes are available at their high school.

You're only eligible for that acceleration if you're at one of the W feeders.

What is W feeders?

Most of the kids that take Algebra at TPMS come from Cold Spring because they get IM in 5th there.

I don't think that many take it in TPMS from what I hear. Only a handful or so. Its at other schools and those kids just skip IM.

They're not allowed to skip IIM at TPMS. They'll only let a child take algebra and 6th if they'd already finished it in 5th. So only students whose schools like Cold spring that offer that have that option.

Glad my kid didn't go to TPMS and went to a school that allowed Algebra in 6th. You realize other schools allow Algebra in 6h without IM.

Yes, and the very best of them may even make it to Functions in 9th with many of those same TPMS kids who took Algebra in 7th.

Exactly even if they rush to get through Algebra early they still end up in the same place and likely lack the same foundation.

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Anonymous wrote:Some kids start Algebra 1 in 6th, in which case they are bused to the high school in 8th grade for first period math, then return to their school for the rest, with the understanding that they'll need to fill in math classes with dual enrollment at the community college or take whatever optional math classes are available at their high school.

You're only eligible for that acceleration if you're at one of the W feeders.

What is W feeders?

Most of the kids that take Algebra at TPMS come from Cold Spring because they get IM in 5th there.

I don't think that many take it in TPMS from what I hear. Only a handful or so. Its at other schools and those kids just skip IM.

They're not allowed to skip IIM at TPMS. They'll only let a child take algebra and 6th if they'd already finished it in 5th. So only students whose schools like Cold spring that offer that have that option.

Glad my kid didn't go to TPMS and went to a school that allowed Algebra in 6th. You realize other schools allow Algebra in 6h without IM.

What are those schools?

The rich schools where they have to do what the parents demand.