AP Testing Still a Thing at Sidwell/GDS/Maret/Potomac/St Albans/NCS?

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Anonymous wrote:OP here again - I see lots of comments about AP tests being used to place out of college classes. I get that.

What about the AP test scores being used in admissions as a sign of rigor or academic qualification? I guess that's the question behind my question.

Yes, it puts the grade in the equivalent class into a broader perspective.

Thanks - so in that case, why are these school college advising offices discouraging the AP test for applicants to the most elite colleges?

NP. This is my concern. How do the schools communicate rigor to colleges, especially if DC wants to apply to a college unfamiliar with these DMV schools? With the current test optional environment, it seems like eliminating another standard isn't a great idea?

Grades and courseload.

What course designation in private schools would an out of state college admissions recognize as "rigorous"?

The privates generally define what course load is rigorous and send that out with the school profile.

How? The common app counselor letter?

No, there is separate information presented as part of the school profiled. It is something the privates provide to the colleges directly. Our private has revised the standard a few times over the years, mostly to take into account the effect of the increased number of advanced offerings.

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The College Board enjoys monopolies in key markets and leverages those monopolies to support its competition in non-monopoly markets against competitors who enjoy no monopoly safe havens. Kind of ironic that a few independent schools who wish to offer their own advanced courses are accused of collusion.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here again - I see lots of comments about AP tests being used to place out of college classes. I get that.

What about the AP test scores being used in admissions as a sign of rigor or academic qualification? I guess that's the question behind my question.

Yes, it puts the grade in the equivalent class into a broader perspective.

Thanks - so in that case, why are these school college advising offices discouraging the AP test for applicants to the most elite colleges?

NP. This is my concern. How do the schools communicate rigor to colleges, especially if DC wants to apply to a college unfamiliar with these DMV schools? With the current test optional environment, it seems like eliminating another standard isn't a great idea?

Just be quiet and only apply to the tiny liberal Slacs your upper school does know. Then grad school.

This is definitely the way to go. My DC refused to even look at SLACs and only applied to state flagships and bigger private universities. Many more WL and rejections than her friends that had similar stats and applied to top SLACs. Those kids are all headed to top SLACs that seem to love the Big3 grads.

are all headed to top SLACs that seem to love the Big3 grads.

That’s horrible to learn.
What if you wanted a larger school with spirit and sports and a certain program or recruiting?
To have to apply to more of the same as upper school is disappointing. Our kids can’t wait to get out of here.

That is intereSting and i guess good news for us. My big 3 kid wants a small school still. Crossing fingers.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here again - I see lots of comments about AP tests being used to place out of college classes. I get that.

What about the AP test scores being used in admissions as a sign of rigor or academic qualification? I guess that's the question behind my question.

Yes, it puts the grade in the equivalent class into a broader perspective.

Thanks - so in that case, why are these school college advising offices discouraging the AP test for applicants to the most elite colleges?

NP. This is my concern. How do the schools communicate rigor to colleges, especially if DC wants to apply to a college unfamiliar with these DMV schools? With the current test optional environment, it seems like eliminating another standard isn't a great idea?

Grades and courseload.

What course designation in private schools would an out of state college admissions recognize as "rigorous"?

The privates generally define what course load is rigorous and send that out with the school profile.

How? The common app counselor letter?

No, there is separate information presented as part of the school profiled. It is something the privates provide to the colleges directly. Our private has revised the standard a few times over the years, mostly to take into account the effect of the increased number of advanced offerings.

Sorry, this seems self serving. A private school could make a class sound more rigorous than it actually is. The self reporting doesn't mean much, IMO. At least AP exams are standard across the country.

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Anonymous wrote:The College Board enjoys monopolies in key markets and leverages those monopolies to support its competition in non-monopoly markets against competitors who enjoy no monopoly safe havens. Kind of ironic that a few independent schools who wish to offer their own advanced courses are accused of collusion.

Exactly! Anti standards is so non-monopolistic! Enjoy your tiny leftist $70k a year SLAC.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here again - I see lots of comments about AP tests being used to place out of college classes. I get that.

What about the AP test scores being used in admissions as a sign of rigor or academic qualification? I guess that's the question behind my question.

Yes, it puts the grade in the equivalent class into a broader perspective.

Thanks - so in that case, why are these school college advising offices discouraging the AP test for applicants to the most elite colleges?

NP. This is my concern. How do the schools communicate rigor to colleges, especially if DC wants to apply to a college unfamiliar with these DMV schools? With the current test optional environment, it seems like eliminating another standard isn't a great idea?

Just be quiet and only apply to the tiny liberal Slacs your upper school does know. Then grad school.

This is definitely the way to go. My DC refused to even look at SLACs and only applied to state flagships and bigger private universities. Many more WL and rejections than her friends that had similar stats and applied to top SLACs. Those kids are all headed to top SLACs that seem to love the Big3 grads.

are all headed to top SLACs that seem to love the Big3 grads.

That’s horrible to learn.
What if you wanted a larger school with spirit and sports and a certain program or recruiting?
To have to apply to more of the same as upper school is disappointing. Our kids can’t wait to get out of here.

That is intereSting and i guess good news for us. My big 3 kid wants a small school still. Crossing fingers.

Lots of grooming and setting he table for this at the Dc progressive schools. They can’t compete in the stem, big 10 or Jesuit colleges.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here again - I see lots of comments about AP tests being used to place out of college classes. I get that.

What about the AP test scores being used in admissions as a sign of rigor or academic qualification? I guess that's the question behind my question.

Yes, it puts the grade in the equivalent class into a broader perspective.

Thanks - so in that case, why are these school college advising offices discouraging the AP test for applicants to the most elite colleges?

NP. This is my concern. How do the schools communicate rigor to colleges, especially if DC wants to apply to a college unfamiliar with these DMV schools? With the current test optional environment, it seems like eliminating another standard isn't a great idea?

Grades and courseload.

What course designation in private schools would an out of state college admissions recognize as "rigorous"?

The privates generally define what course load is rigorous and send that out with the school profile.

How? The common app counselor letter?

No, there is separate information presented as part of the school profiled. It is something the privates provide to the colleges directly. Our private has revised the standard a few times over the years, mostly to take into account the effect of the increased number of advanced offerings.

All schools provide this, it's called a class profile; most are fairly similar in content, but some are more detailed than others. Essentially, it lets a college put your child's transcript in context vis a vis the rest of the class.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here again - I see lots of comments about AP tests being used to place out of college classes. I get that.

What about the AP test scores being used in admissions as a sign of rigor or academic qualification? I guess that's the question behind my question.

Yes, it puts the grade in the equivalent class into a broader perspective.

Thanks - so in that case, why are these school college advising offices discouraging the AP test for applicants to the most elite colleges?

NP. This is my concern. How do the schools communicate rigor to colleges, especially if DC wants to apply to a college unfamiliar with these DMV schools? With the current test optional environment, it seems like eliminating another standard isn't a great idea?

Grades and courseload.

What course designation in private schools would an out of state college admissions recognize as "rigorous"?

The privates generally define what course load is rigorous and send that out with the school profile.

How? The common app counselor letter?

No, there is separate information presented as part of the school profiled. It is something the privates provide to the colleges directly. Our private has revised the standard a few times over the years, mostly to take into account the effect of the increased number of advanced offerings.

All schools provide this, it's called a class profile; most are fairly similar in content, but some are more detailed than others. Essentially, it lets a college put your child's transcript in context vis a vis the rest of the class.

The thing is, it’s up to the school how or if to use that profile. For example, for out of state high schools, the UC GPA computation only gives grade bumps for AP and IB courses.

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I thought UC schools also give a GPA bump for Honors courses.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here again - I see lots of comments about AP tests being used to place out of college classes. I get that.

What about the AP test scores being used in admissions as a sign of rigor or academic qualification? I guess that's the question behind my question.

Yes, it puts the grade in the equivalent class into a broader perspective.

Thanks - so in that case, why are these school college advising offices discouraging the AP test for applicants to the most elite colleges?

NP. This is my concern. How do the schools communicate rigor to colleges, especially if DC wants to apply to a college unfamiliar with these DMV schools? With the current test optional environment, it seems like eliminating another standard isn't a great idea?

Grades and courseload.

What course designation in private schools would an out of state college admissions recognize as "rigorous"?

The privates generally define what course load is rigorous and send that out with the school profile.

How? The common app counselor letter?

No, there is separate information presented as part of the school profiled. It is something the privates provide to the colleges directly. Our private has revised the standard a few times over the years, mostly to take into account the effect of the increased number of advanced offerings.

All schools provide this, it's called a class profile; most are fairly similar in content, but some are more detailed than others. Essentially, it lets a college put your child's transcript in context vis a vis the rest of the class.

No, you miss the point. The topic was that some school profiles affirmatively define what is most rigorous through objective criteria.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here again - I see lots of comments about AP tests being used to place out of college classes. I get that.

What about the AP test scores being used in admissions as a sign of rigor or academic qualification? I guess that's the question behind my question.

Yes, it puts the grade in the equivalent class into a broader perspective.

Thanks - so in that case, why are these school college advising offices discouraging the AP test for applicants to the most elite colleges?

NP. This is my concern. How do the schools communicate rigor to colleges, especially if DC wants to apply to a college unfamiliar with these DMV schools? With the current test optional environment, it seems like eliminating another standard isn't a great idea?

Grades and courseload.

What course designation in private schools would an out of state college admissions recognize as "rigorous"?

The privates generally define what course load is rigorous and send that out with the school profile.

How? The common app counselor letter?

No, there is separate information presented as part of the school profiled. It is something the privates provide to the colleges directly. Our private has revised the standard a few times over the years, mostly to take into account the effect of the increased number of advanced offerings.

All schools provide this, it's called a class profile; most are fairly similar in content, but some are more detailed than others. Essentially, it lets a college put your child's transcript in context vis a vis the rest of the class.

No, you miss the point. The topic was that some school profiles affirmatively define what is most rigorous through objective criteria.

Uh, the admissions people compare kids within the same school mostly. So yes, the school profile helps them determine which kids took the most rigorous classes available at the school.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here again - I see lots of comments about AP tests being used to place out of college classes. I get that.

What about the AP test scores being used in admissions as a sign of rigor or academic qualification? I guess that's the question behind my question.

Yes, it puts the grade in the equivalent class into a broader perspective.

Thanks - so in that case, why are these school college advising offices discouraging the AP test for applicants to the most elite colleges?

NP. This is my concern. How do the schools communicate rigor to colleges, especially if DC wants to apply to a college unfamiliar with these DMV schools? With the current test optional environment, it seems like eliminating another standard isn't a great idea?

Just be quiet and only apply to the tiny liberal Slacs your upper school does know. Then grad school.

This is definitely the way to go. My DC refused to even look at SLACs and only applied to state flagships and bigger private universities. Many more WL and rejections than her friends that had similar stats and applied to top SLACs. Those kids are all headed to top SLACs that seem to love the Big3 grads.

are all headed to top SLACs that seem to love the Big3 grads.

That’s horrible to learn.
What if you wanted a larger school with spirit and sports and a certain program or recruiting?
To have to apply to more of the same as upper school is disappointing. Our kids can’t wait to get out of here.

That is intereSting and i guess good news for us. My big 3 kid wants a small school still. Crossing fingers.

Lots of grooming and setting he table for this at the Dc progressive schools. They can’t compete in the stem, big 10 or Jesuit colleges.

Their world is thankfully bigger than majoring in Stem and rah rah-ing at big 10s.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here again - I see lots of comments about AP tests being used to place out of college classes. I get that.

What about the AP test scores being used in admissions as a sign of rigor or academic qualification? I guess that's the question behind my question.

Yes, it puts the grade in the equivalent class into a broader perspective.

Thanks - so in that case, why are these school college advising offices discouraging the AP test for applicants to the most elite colleges?

NP. This is my concern. How do the schools communicate rigor to colleges, especially if DC wants to apply to a college unfamiliar with these DMV schools? With the current test optional environment, it seems like eliminating another standard isn't a great idea?

Grades and courseload.

What course designation in private schools would an out of state college admissions recognize as "rigorous"?

The privates generally define what course load is rigorous and send that out with the school profile.

How? The common app counselor letter?

No, there is separate information presented as part of the school profiled. It is something the privates provide to the colleges directly. Our private has revised the standard a few times over the years, mostly to take into account the effect of the increased number of advanced offerings.

All schools provide this, it's called a class profile; most are fairly similar in content, but some are more detailed than others. Essentially, it lets a college put your child's transcript in context vis a vis the rest of the class.

No, you miss the point. The topic was that some school profiles affirmatively define what is most rigorous through objective criteria.

Uh, the admissions people compare kids within the same school mostly. So yes, the school profile helps them determine which kids took the most rigorous classes available at the school. [/quot

“Uh” no, again that was not the discussion. Some schools define the most rigorous track objectively and affirmatively explain what it is. No one is saying the school profile could not serve as a proxy for that, but that was not the point.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here again - I see lots of comments about AP tests being used to place out of college classes. I get that.

What about the AP test scores being used in admissions as a sign of rigor or academic qualification? I guess that's the question behind my question.

Yes, it puts the grade in the equivalent class into a broader perspective.

Thanks - so in that case, why are these school college advising offices discouraging the AP test for applicants to the most elite colleges?

NP. This is my concern. How do the schools communicate rigor to colleges, especially if DC wants to apply to a college unfamiliar with these DMV schools? With the current test optional environment, it seems like eliminating another standard isn't a great idea?

Just be quiet and only apply to the tiny liberal Slacs your upper school does know. Then grad school.

This is definitely the way to go. My DC refused to even look at SLACs and only applied to state flagships and bigger private universities. Many more WL and rejections than her friends that had similar stats and applied to top SLACs. Those kids are all headed to top SLACs that seem to love the Big3 grads.

are all headed to top SLACs that seem to love the Big3 grads.

That’s horrible to learn.
What if you wanted a larger school with spirit and sports and a certain program or recruiting?
To have to apply to more of the same as upper school is disappointing. Our kids can’t wait to get out of here.

That is intereSting and i guess good news for us. My big 3 kid wants a small school still. Crossing fingers.

Lots of grooming and setting he table for this at the Dc progressive schools. They can’t compete in the stem, big 10 or Jesuit colleges.

Their world is thankfully bigger than majoring in Stem and rah rah-ing at big 10s.

We can’t all major in activism, complaining, justice and equity for all now. Who would be the donors? The new online curriculum peeps?

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Anonymous wrote:OP here again - I see lots of comments about AP tests being used to place out of college classes. I get that.

What about the AP test scores being used in admissions as a sign of rigor or academic qualification? I guess that's the question behind my question.

Yes, it puts the grade in the equivalent class into a broader perspective.

Thanks - so in that case, why are these school college advising offices discouraging the AP test for applicants to the most elite colleges?

NP. This is my concern. How do the schools communicate rigor to colleges, especially if DC wants to apply to a college unfamiliar with these DMV schools? With the current test optional environment, it seems like eliminating another standard isn't a great idea?

Just be quiet and only apply to the tiny liberal Slacs your upper school does know. Then grad school.

This is definitely the way to go. My DC refused to even look at SLACs and only applied to state flagships and bigger private universities. Many more WL and rejections than her friends that had similar stats and applied to top SLACs. Those kids are all headed to top SLACs that seem to love the Big3 grads.

are all headed to top SLACs that seem to love the Big3 grads.

That’s horrible to learn.
What if you wanted a larger school with spirit and sports and a certain program or recruiting?
To have to apply to more of the same as upper school is disappointing. Our kids can’t wait to get out of here.

That is intereSting and i guess good news for us. My big 3 kid wants a small school still. Crossing fingers.

Lots of grooming and setting he table for this at the Dc progressive schools. They can’t compete in the stem, big 10 or Jesuit colleges.

Their world is thankfully bigger than majoring in Stem and rah rah-ing at big 10s.

We can’t all major in activism, complaining, justice and equity for all now. Who would be the donors? The new online curriculum peeps?

You are weirdly obsessed about SLACs. Justice and equity for all now are being embraced by pretty much all universities and colleges, regardless of size.

Enjoy your TA gigantic classes. Hope you can get all the courses you need to graduate in 4 years.