I dislike Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“a scientist tries to understand the *truth* about the natural world”

Not really, a scientist tries to make a small contribution to the humanity’s knowledge frontier, knowing she (!) will likely be disproven by those who follow. Curiosity is truly the essence.

-researcher

— Also, many scientists don’t believe there is ‘one truth.’ That’s why the foundation of science is theoretical.

I suspect OP May not have had the same complaint if Prince Wednesday was ‘being a scientist,’ but since it’s Miss Elaina, of course, the limited discussion of epistemology and scientific ontology is very objectionable.

— Also a scientist

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Daniel Tiger is a whiner and Katerina Kitty Cat needs to get to the point without the superfluous meowing. It is banned in our house.

OP, it sounds like Storybots should be your go-to show.

No way, Storybots is way too crazy for OP. She's way too literal to deal with Storybots - "Jennifer Garner worked at a telephone switchboards, but those don't even exist anymore, that would be way too confusing for my child!"

OP here.
I've never checked out story bots. It's not "oh it's not real life", or it being figurative. It's the dumbing down of things, the lack of thought and attention to logic, that bothers me.

You would hate it.

Also, your kid is what - 3? There is a time for logic, reason, and preciseness. Age 3 is not that time. Chill out and let your kid learn some cute songs to help regulate their feelings.

[Anonymous]

I reread the OP and have come to the conclusion she's just a very, very good troll.

But if you're not, OP, you might love Dinosaur Train. It's quite accurate in what it teaches about paleontology. But you may not like the time traveling on a train conducted by a dinosaur aspect of it, since that's not historically accurate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daniel Tiger is a whiner and Katerina Kitty Cat needs to get to the point without the superfluous meowing. It is banned in our house.

OP, it sounds like Storybots should be your go-to show.

No way, Storybots is way too crazy for OP. She's way too literal to deal with Storybots - "Jennifer Garner worked at a telephone switchboards, but those don't even exist anymore, that would be way too confusing for my child!"

OP here.
I've never checked out story bots. It's not "oh it's not real life", or it being figurative. It's the dumbing down of things, the lack of thought and attention to logic, that bothers me.

It's a cartoon with talking animals. Why would you expect logic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP: it’s ok to feel mad sometimes. Little by little, it gets better ….

I love you. I wanted to post something similar but my kids are older and I forgot the words!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daniel Tiger is a whiner and Katerina Kitty Cat needs to get to the point without the superfluous meowing. It is banned in our house.

OP, it sounds like Storybots should be your go-to show.

No way, Storybots is way too crazy for OP. She's way too literal to deal with Storybots - "Jennifer Garner worked at a telephone switchboards, but those don't even exist anymore, that would be way too confusing for my child!"

OP here.
I've never checked out story bots. It's not "oh it's not real life", or it being figurative. It's the dumbing down of things, the lack of thought and attention to logic, that bothers me.

You would hate it.

Also, your kid is what - 3? There is a time for logic, reason, and preciseness. Age 3 is not that time. Chill out and let your kid learn some cute songs to help regulate their feelings.

PP here with the Storybots rec. I’m curious if this will be a hit or miss with OP and their kid. My 3 y/o loves it and particularly enjoys the episodes on cell phones, electricity, and viruses. She also loved Dinosaur Train. No one is regularly having a meltdown on either show.

[Anonymous]

You're going to laugh at this, because it's quite funny! Originally Daniel stripped Tiger,never wore any clothes at all! The sponsors decided.to let him wear a shirt,as for the mom she wore pants for a very cool reason!

[Anonymous]

Just limit screen time to 1-2 shows per day and watch older shows that are more aligned with the values you want to teach. Real life interaction and experiences are far superior to anything a tv show can ever provide, especially at this age when kids are so curious about the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids were watching it this morning and I really dislike this show (and, to a lesser extent, a lot of the PBS lineup these days).

They have very positive toddler-focused messages. Their representation is just so, sometimes a bit too much so (e.g. it's Daniel's mom who always fixes things with the tools, and never his dad? I get it, it's important to normalize women and girls as being able to do masculine work, but I guess now we can never depict a man doing that kind of work anymore?) But what really gets me is the thought doesn't go deeper than this thin veneer of sense/morality for toddlers.

Here are some examples:
Today, King Friday tells Daniel, "being a king is about helping others." No, it's not. I mean that's part of it, but it's about leadership, wisdom, honor, responsibility for those under your care. I get that getting into heavy detail is maybe too much for toddlers, but it feels like beyond the egalitarianism (reinforced by Prince Tuesday doing all the odd jobs around town), they didn't really think any deeper than that, how to render the idea of a "king" in a modern story and make it work (because for the modern morality it's not, I guess, but there was a King Friday in the original Mr. Roger's neighborhood!).

Or the other day, Miss Elaina was drawing pictures of leaves, insects, etc. - in particular, a snail - in her little sketch book and said, "I'm a scientist, which means I'm curious about the world!" Sure, we got representation of an African American Girl as Scientist, but that's not what the quintessence of a scientist is. Curiosity and recording are part of it, but a scientist tries to understand the *truth* about the natural world, dispassionately based on evidence and observation. It's about finding out how the world works. And if a scientist was writing that script I have a feeling they'd include that bit.

Or I remember one episode from a long time ago where the kids go to see a crayon factory. I was excited - in the old Mr. Roger's Neighborhood, they'd show a video of how things are made in almost every episode. In this one, they don't really give you an understanding how crayons are made. The color is added (great) but they don't pour hot wax into molds, or let them cool, or show the inner workings of any machines. The crayons just kind of materialize out of a closed machine. And maybe toddlers don't need anymore, but the better-done shows HAVE more, just like well-illustrated picture books, and good children's media (including books) in general.

I find this lack of thought, things that carelessly make no sense, in a lot of children's media and toys and it annoys me. (E.g., a polar bear in a puzzle with otherwise African Savannah animals, predatory animals being friends with their prey, tropical fruits growing along with non-tropical ones in the same forest....)

It's a TV show for little kids. Not an investigative documentary. You can teach your kids and read to them.

[Anonymous]

Daniel tiger's mom does all the fixing in the house she's a builder