APS teachers - be careful about what you send to parents

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I doubt OP is actually a teacher " who supports. " Come on.

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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. I’m a member of Arlington Parents for Education and support most of their advocacy. I’m disappointed about what some parents are doing though. A few days ago another APS teacher emailed families to say that learning may be uneven next month because of COVID and referenced vaccinations and masking, pointing to the Arlington website. It was a perfectly ordinary message but rubbed some the wrong way. Someone copied it, posted it to the FB group and then everyone dumped on it because some are against masks or vaccines, or because they think a teacher should never mention them. Some thought it was to avoid work. It makes me queasy to think that a well meaning message I might send would get treated that way and scorned for something that I didn’t say or intend. I don’t think the whole group is bad or anything like that. But be careful what you send to parents right now because you could have your message passed around that group.

That email was from one of the heads of the teachers unions too who is a COVID fanatic (his name was redacted but my friend’s kid received it and she was outraged too). But he loves to ride motorcycles in his free time, as he told the W-L newspaper (one of the most dangerous activities around).

His zero COVID evangelicism is completely offputting. We teach our kids not to wear masks, just as the majority of the country is doing. COVID is never going away and these fanatics will not quit until they ruin our children’s childhood completely trying to avoid the equivalent of a bad cold (considering they’re vaccinated and boosted).

This zero COVID fanaticism is so bizarre, and it really only seems to be a neurosis in the deepest of blue America.

You're bizarre if you and your spouse "teach our kids not to wear masks." I really hope your kids don't go to my kids' school. Yuck.

I know. Since it’s required at school, it seems like a stupid plan.

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Anonymous wrote:Groups like APE are a cancer on our community.

Yup.

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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. I’m a member of Arlington Parents for Education and support most of their advocacy. I’m disappointed about what some parents are doing though. A few days ago another APS teacher emailed families to say that learning may be uneven next month because of COVID and referenced vaccinations and masking, pointing to the Arlington website. It was a perfectly ordinary message but rubbed some the wrong way. Someone copied it, posted it to the FB group and then everyone dumped on it because some are against masks or vaccines, or because they think a teacher should never mention them. Some thought it was to avoid work. It makes me queasy to think that a well meaning message I might send would get treated that way and scorned for something that I didn’t say or intend. I don’t think the whole group is bad or anything like that. But be careful what you send to parents right now because you could have your message passed around that group.

That email was from one of the heads of the teachers unions too who is a COVID fanatic (his name was redacted but my friend’s kid received it and she was outraged too). But he loves to ride motorcycles in his free time, as he told the W-L newspaper (one of the most dangerous activities around).

His zero COVID evangelicism is completely offputting. We teach our kids not to wear masks, just as the majority of the country is doing. COVID is never going away and these fanatics will not quit until they ruin our children’s childhood completely trying to avoid the equivalent of a bad cold (considering they’re vaccinated and boosted).

This zero COVID fanaticism is so bizarre, and it really only seems to be a neurosis in the deepest of blue America.

Like OP I am an APS teacher who largely supports APEs mission (I have blocked a few people there so I don’t see their toxic comments)
The person who wrote this letter has poor judgment IMO. I don’t like how he often presents as the face of all APS staff, especially considering the low membership in AEA. He riles up the relatively small number of COVID hysterics in our educators group. I think the response in APE was about half supportive, half taking him to task and both sides had a point.

NP. Also a teacher. Found the thread. That's the correct assessment. It went both ways. I wouldn't have sent that email. If I did, however, I wouldn't want it posted for general commentary on FB just because someone didn't like it. Geez. I expect the parents wouldn't like someone taking their posts on FB and copying them over to DCUM.

He sent that in his professional capacity, not his personal capacity. There is no expectation of privacy for a mass email sent out in that context.

LOL, really? Glad that APE is cool that stuff posted to their 1000 member group can be re-posted here. Can't be any expectation of privacy there, either. Good to know. This will be fun.

People have posted their newsletters here repeatedly. Things that individual people post in their personal capacity in a closed Facebook group is different.

APE is a corporation. It's got board members who post there. APE's purpose is to advocate and to influence elections. It's existence is to promote a former/future SB candidate. That's not closed. It's the public square. More so than a message to parents about about their children, which apparently NY Times material as far as your concerned. Let it rip, as APE members like to say.

Hey Clarence Darrow, it doesn't work that way. Besides, the name was redacted, so there was no real disclosure. No one on APE actually knows who sent the email out. It's just totally fair criticism of a totally out of line teacher telling people to wear masks and get vaxed. His job is to teach not promote public health. I expect emails about homework and tests, not telling me about masks. I decide whether my kid needs to wear a mask and get vaxed. As along as masks are required, we'll comply but not a second longer than we have to. Thank God vaxes aren't required.

I’m so glad my child is a private school where we don’t have to deal with low IQ people like you.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would a teacher support a group like this? I cannot understand what OP finds solid in this organization. Ugh.

I’m one of the teacher PPs. I support most of the group because I believe in-person school is best, as a teacher and Arlington parent. There are some truly nasty people in there, I have them blocked. It’s not any more toxic than the APS educators group.

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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. I’m a member of Arlington Parents for Education and support most of their advocacy. I’m disappointed about what some parents are doing though. A few days ago another APS teacher emailed families to say that learning may be uneven next month because of COVID and referenced vaccinations and masking, pointing to the Arlington website. It was a perfectly ordinary message but rubbed some the wrong way. Someone copied it, posted it to the FB group and then everyone dumped on it because some are against masks or vaccines, or because they think a teacher should never mention them. Some thought it was to avoid work. It makes me queasy to think that a well meaning message I might send would get treated that way and scorned for something that I didn’t say or intend. I don’t think the whole group is bad or anything like that. But be careful what you send to parents right now because you could have your message passed around that group.

That email was from one of the heads of the teachers unions too who is a COVID fanatic (his name was redacted but my friend’s kid received it and she was outraged too). But he loves to ride motorcycles in his free time, as he told the W-L newspaper (one of the most dangerous activities around).

His zero COVID evangelicism is completely offputting. We teach our kids not to wear masks, just as the majority of the country is doing. COVID is never going away and these fanatics will not quit until they ruin our children’s childhood completely trying to avoid the equivalent of a bad cold (considering they’re vaccinated and boosted).

This zero COVID fanaticism is so bizarre, and it really only seems to be a neurosis in the deepest of blue America.

People in Arlington tend to be more highly educated than rednecks in the rest of the country.

Yeah but those red neck kids are on a path to outsmart your arlington kids based on time spent on in person learning at this rate.

I honestly worry about this. What’s the point of paying $$$$ to live in Arlington when your kids could probably get an equivalent education (with actual differentiation) in Kentucky?

In Arlington you pay for your peers. Even the most rabid APE parents who demand maskless school would balk at having their neighbors grow up around people with less education and status.

Spoken like a true Northie.

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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. I’m a member of Arlington Parents for Education and support most of their advocacy. I’m disappointed about what some parents are doing though. A few days ago another APS teacher emailed families to say that learning may be uneven next month because of COVID and referenced vaccinations and masking, pointing to the Arlington website. It was a perfectly ordinary message but rubbed some the wrong way. Someone copied it, posted it to the FB group and then everyone dumped on it because some are against masks or vaccines, or because they think a teacher should never mention them. Some thought it was to avoid work. It makes me queasy to think that a well meaning message I might send would get treated that way and scorned for something that I didn’t say or intend. I don’t think the whole group is bad or anything like that. But be careful what you send to parents right now because you could have your message passed around that group.

That email was from one of the heads of the teachers unions too who is a COVID fanatic (his name was redacted but my friend’s kid received it and she was outraged too). But he loves to ride motorcycles in his free time, as he told the W-L newspaper (one of the most dangerous activities around).

His zero COVID evangelicism is completely offputting. We teach our kids not to wear masks, just as the majority of the country is doing. COVID is never going away and these fanatics will not quit until they ruin our children’s childhood completely trying to avoid the equivalent of a bad cold (considering they’re vaccinated and boosted).

This zero COVID fanaticism is so bizarre, and it really only seems to be a neurosis in the deepest of blue America.

People in Arlington tend to be more highly educated than rednecks in the rest of the country.

Yeah but those red neck kids are on a path to outsmart your arlington kids based on time spent on in person learning at this rate.

I honestly worry about this. What’s the point of paying $$$$ to live in Arlington when your kids could probably get an equivalent education (with actual differentiation) in Kentucky?

In Arlington you pay for your peers. Even the most rabid APE parents who demand maskless school would balk at having their neighbors grow up around people with less education and status.

Spoken like a true Northie.

Haha. I'm a southie who teaches in 22204

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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. I’m a member of Arlington Parents for Education and support most of their advocacy. I’m disappointed about what some parents are doing though. A few days ago another APS teacher emailed families to say that learning may be uneven next month because of COVID and referenced vaccinations and masking, pointing to the Arlington website. It was a perfectly ordinary message but rubbed some the wrong way. Someone copied it, posted it to the FB group and then everyone dumped on it because some are against masks or vaccines, or because they think a teacher should never mention them. Some thought it was to avoid work. It makes me queasy to think that a well meaning message I might send would get treated that way and scorned for something that I didn’t say or intend. I don’t think the whole group is bad or anything like that. But be careful what you send to parents right now because you could have your message passed around that group.

That email was from one of the heads of the teachers unions too who is a COVID fanatic (his name was redacted but my friend’s kid received it and she was outraged too). But he loves to ride motorcycles in his free time, as he told the W-L newspaper (one of the most dangerous activities around).

His zero COVID evangelicism is completely offputting. We teach our kids not to wear masks, just as the majority of the country is doing. COVID is never going away and these fanatics will not quit until they ruin our children’s childhood completely trying to avoid the equivalent of a bad cold (considering they’re vaccinated and boosted).

This zero COVID fanaticism is so bizarre, and it really only seems to be a neurosis in the deepest of blue America.

People in Arlington tend to be more highly educated than rednecks in the rest of the country.

Yeah but those red neck kids are on a path to outsmart your arlington kids based on time spent on in person learning at this rate.

I honestly worry about this. What’s the point of paying $$$$ to live in Arlington when your kids could probably get an equivalent education (with actual differentiation) in Kentucky?

In Arlington you pay for your peers. Even the most rabid APE parents who demand maskless school would balk at having their neighbors grow up around people with less education and status.

Spoken like a true Northie.

Haha. I'm a southie who teaches in 22204

Okay. Kind of find that hard to believe when a substantial portion of those students are FARMS and ESL, and the parents of the non-FARM kids are mostly government/military/etc. Educated—sure, but not exactly the “status” of which you speak.

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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. I’m a member of Arlington Parents for Education and support most of their advocacy. I’m disappointed about what some parents are doing though. A few days ago another APS teacher emailed families to say that learning may be uneven next month because of COVID and referenced vaccinations and masking, pointing to the Arlington website. It was a perfectly ordinary message but rubbed some the wrong way. Someone copied it, posted it to the FB group and then everyone dumped on it because some are against masks or vaccines, or because they think a teacher should never mention them. Some thought it was to avoid work. It makes me queasy to think that a well meaning message I might send would get treated that way and scorned for something that I didn’t say or intend. I don’t think the whole group is bad or anything like that. But be careful what you send to parents right now because you could have your message passed around that group.

That email was from one of the heads of the teachers unions too who is a COVID fanatic (his name was redacted but my friend’s kid received it and she was outraged too). But he loves to ride motorcycles in his free time, as he told the W-L newspaper (one of the most dangerous activities around).

His zero COVID evangelicism is completely offputting. We teach our kids not to wear masks, just as the majority of the country is doing. COVID is never going away and these fanatics will not quit until they ruin our children’s childhood completely trying to avoid the equivalent of a bad cold (considering they’re vaccinated and boosted).

This zero COVID fanaticism is so bizarre, and it really only seems to be a neurosis in the deepest of blue America.

People in Arlington tend to be more highly educated than rednecks in the rest of the country.

Yeah but those red neck kids are on a path to outsmart your arlington kids based on time spent on in person learning at this rate.

I honestly worry about this. What’s the point of paying $$$$ to live in Arlington when your kids could probably get an equivalent education (with actual differentiation) in Kentucky?

In Arlington you pay for your peers. Even the most rabid APE parents who demand maskless school would balk at having their neighbors grow up around people with less education and status.

Spoken like a true Northie.

Haha. I'm a southie who teaches in 22204

Okay. Kind of find that hard to believe when a substantial portion of those students are FARMS and ESL, and the parents of the non-FARM kids are mostly government/military/etc. Educated—sure, but not exactly the “status” of which you speak.

It's usually the people in 2 million dollar North Arlington homes who are making the claims that they could get a better education in Kentucky

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Please move to Kentucky in pursuit of your public school education goals. PLEASE we are begging you.

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APS teacher here. I’m a member of Arlington Parents for Education and support most of their advocacy. I’m disappointed about what some parents are doing though. A few days ago another APS teacher emailed families to say that learning may be uneven next month because of COVID and referenced vaccinations and masking, pointing to the Arlington website. It was a perfectly ordinary message but rubbed some the wrong way. Someone copied it, posted it to the FB group and then everyone dumped on it because some are against masks or vaccines, or because they think a teacher should never mention them. Some thought it was to avoid work. It makes me queasy to think that a well meaning message I might send would get treated that way and scorned for something that I didn’t say or intend. I don’t think the whole group is bad or anything like that. But be careful what you send to parents right now because you could have your message passed around that group.



That email was from one of the heads of the teachers unions too who is a COVID fanatic (his name was redacted but my friend’s kid received it and she was outraged too). But he loves to ride motorcycles in his free time, as he told the W-L newspaper (one of the most dangerous activities around).

His zero COVID evangelicism is completely offputting. We teach our kids not to wear masks, just as the majority of the country is doing. COVID is never going away and these fanatics will not quit until they ruin our children’s childhood completely trying to avoid the equivalent of a bad cold (considering they’re vaccinated and boosted).

This zero COVID fanaticism is so bizarre, and it really only seems to be a neurosis in the deepest of blue America.




Like OP I am an APS teacher who largely supports APEs mission (I have blocked a few people there so I don’t see their toxic comments)
The person who wrote this letter has poor judgment IMO. I don’t like how he often presents as the face of all APS staff, especially considering the low membership in AEA. He riles up the relatively small number of COVID hysterics in our educators group. I think the response in APE was about half supportive, half taking him to task and both sides had a point.



NP. Also a teacher. Found the thread. That's the correct assessment. It went both ways. I wouldn't have sent that email. If I did, however, I wouldn't want it posted for general commentary on FB just because someone didn't like it. Geez. I expect the parents wouldn't like someone taking their posts on FB and copying them over to DCUM.



He sent that in his professional capacity, not his personal capacity. There is no expectation of privacy for a mass email sent out in that context.



LOL, really? Glad that APE is cool that stuff posted to their 1000 member group can be re-posted here. Can't be any expectation of privacy there, either. Good to know. This will be fun.



People have posted their newsletters here repeatedly. Things that individual people post in their personal capacity in a closed Facebook group is different.



APE is a corporation. It's got board members who post there. APE's purpose is to advocate and to influence elections. It's existence is to promote a former/future SB candidate. That's not closed. It's the public square. More so than a message to parents about about their children, which apparently NY Times material as far as your concerned. Let it rip, as APE members like to say.



Hey Clarence Darrow, it doesn't work that way. Besides, the name was redacted, so there was no real disclosure. No one on APE actually knows who sent the email out. It's just totally fair criticism of a totally out of line teacher telling people to wear masks and get vaxed. His job is to teach not promote public health. I expect emails about homework and tests, not telling me about masks. I decide whether my kid needs to wear a mask and get vaxed. As along as masks are required, we'll comply but not a second longer than we have to. Thank God vaxes aren't required.



I’m so glad my child is a private school where we don’t have to deal with low IQ people like you.

Wait---your child is a private school? How is that possible?

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Anonymous wrote:the person who posted it said it came from a teacher friend - I think they are sick of this guy too. the most off putting comment was that he was going to teach math more slowly, IF AT ALL given the new variant. as a secondary math teacher, that is not his call to make and I think that is what the OP was pointing at

I’m wondering if I can guess who this teacher is. Does he also post on AEM a lot? If so, his posts are annoying because he’s so bossy and he often acts like other teachers are clueless and he needs to help us.

It’s exactly who you think it is.

Ugh, I’m sorry, but he’s the worst. He seems to think he’s an expert at everything and loves to tell others what to do - especially other teachers. As a teacher, I would never tell my students to get their vaccines. It’s so presumptuous. Does he actually think they don’t already know that? If I was a parent, I would be annoyed.

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Anonymous wrote:I know some of those APE folks. I could’ve told you they’re like that.

Walking, breathing, typing trash.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is a sixth year teacher, so fairly experienced. I was a teacher as well. I truly do not know how teachers are staying sane. I’ve never seen more whiny, entitled, caustic parents in my life. I would probably have quit. I’m so impressed by the teachers who are staying. It has to be just awful.

+1. If I were a teacher in APS and I had an employed spouse (or savings), I would be out so damn fast. The parental viciousness and entitlement is absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:APS teacher here. I’m a member of Arlington Parents for Education and support most of their advocacy. I’m disappointed about what some parents are doing though. A few days ago another APS teacher emailed families to say that learning may be uneven next month because of COVID and referenced vaccinations and masking, pointing to the Arlington website. It was a perfectly ordinary message but rubbed some the wrong way. Someone copied it, posted it to the FB group and then everyone dumped on it because some are against masks or vaccines, or because they think a teacher should never mention them. Some thought it was to avoid work. It makes me queasy to think that a well meaning message I might send would get treated that way and scorned for something that I didn’t say or intend. I don’t think the whole group is bad or anything like that. But be careful what you send to parents right now because you could have your message passed around that group.

That email was from one of the heads of the teachers unions too who is a COVID fanatic (his name was redacted but my friend’s kid received it and she was outraged too). But he loves to ride motorcycles in his free time, as he told the W-L newspaper (one of the most dangerous activities around).

His zero COVID evangelicism is completely offputting. We teach our kids not to wear masks, just as the majority of the country is doing. COVID is never going away and these fanatics will not quit until they ruin our children’s childhood completely trying to avoid the equivalent of a bad cold (considering they’re vaccinated and boosted).

This zero COVID fanaticism is so bizarre, and it really only seems to be a neurosis in the deepest of blue America.

People in Arlington tend to be more highly educated than rednecks in the rest of the country.

Most are educated well beyond their intelligence.

I don’t think it’s time for masks off yet. You have a little red on your neck there…

Yeah, you should pull your collar up, PP. It’s showing.