Coach held back player from playing in offensive position for 4 years

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Anonymous wrote:We recently switched teams after 4 years with one coach. Daughter is 8th grader who is very athletic, fast, and agile. Coach ALWAYS played her in defense (and she was strong in that position). I gently asked him a few times to try her in offensive positions, and his answer was always that she wasn't up to it because of her ball handling skills. He did occasionally play her in offense, but it was always for a few minutes in a game (no opportunity to show ability).

Well she has been on her new team for a total of 3 tournament games and one official game and has scored 5 times as a forward already. This is on a team in an older age group mind you. I am so angry that she wasn't able to develop as a forward all those years because I trusted this coach's judgment. But I am grateful that she is now officially a forward and the new coach is very excited to develop her in that position.

Lesson learned to trust your gut about a coach despite others gushing about what a great coach he is.

Did the coach try players at different positions over those 4 years? Surprising if he didn't cause those are the ages when they should be exposed to different positions. At least she knows how to defend now. If she did have technical skills it makes sense if she was moved to fwd because if she had technical skills she would have been moved to mid-field where the best players on the team are usually placed.

In 9v9 on the top team of her age group, my daughter started out as left wing (11) and was very technical and quick and had her fair share of unassisted/assisted goals. When moving to 11v11, she was moved to the midfield to play the 6,8 or 10, but coach mainly played her in the 6 to learn how to defend and distribute. It was a tough transition for her cause she was small and would get pushed around in the midfield and it was a new role for her getting plays started from the mid-field. A few years later she was moved back to a wing player (7 or 11) as the team picked up a just as technical bigger midfielder. My daughter picked up from where she left off moving back to the 11. She says she understands the game better playing midfield and having to defend.

OP here. There were a couple players (his favorites) that he would move around. I was the team manager, and obviously it didn't make one bit of difference. Maybe he didn't want it to seem like he was showing favoritism. She was always in the back and last year was first year of 11V11. He tried her in middle for about 10 minutes in a game last season, and never ever put her in front. He had one player was extremely weak who was always in striker position. So, no, he pretty much had everyone pegged at an early age.

Luckily, my daughter is naturally athletic and she picked it up pretty quickly...and the new coach is being very helpful with direction and helpful tips.

Ok, so you seem to realize what the issue was and you went and solved it all on your own. What is you hope to get out of this thread?

Oh please PP. No need for snark. This thread is quite productive.

Productive accept for the fact that the parent did what they thought needed to be done.

Exactly what was the point of the thread? It is an honest question. Frankly, it sounds like he just wants to complain.

And you sound like a coach that likes to keep kids in the same position for four years lol. Hopefully you learned from this thread.

He is playing a different position now but is he a better player? The parent was dismissing the coaches criticism of his son’s technical skills. What was done to improve them? What level team was he on and what level team did he move to?

So what, he changed clubs to play a different position. In NOVA an entitled parent changing clubs to play a position they want their kid to play? Shocking, just shocking.

OP here. First of all, it is a female player (if that even matters).

Second of all, the first coach NEVER played her in a forward position. So how would he even know if she couldn't handle it? She was an excellent defender, and he liked having her there. I also learned tonight from my daughter that the team lacked stronger defenders, and that is why coach always kept her in that position. So I tend to agree with the other poster that he "was being lazy" because he didn't bother to develop more defenders so that she could try other positions.

And again, why is any of this posted? Why do we care? What is it that you hope to gain out of posting this? Kid changes clubs to play another position, news at 11:00.

This is such a non story, I seriously don’t get what the big deal is.

Kid changed teams for other reasons, but lucked out with a better coach. Simple. End of story.

This is just an amazing triumph of determination and will. This is a good read for all those other kids who don’t put in the work themselves to get better, blame the coach and pay the guy who will play your kid where she wants to pay.

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Anonymous wrote:We recently switched teams after 4 years with one coach. Daughter is 8th grader who is very athletic, fast, and agile. Coach ALWAYS played her in defense (and she was strong in that position). I gently asked him a few times to try her in offensive positions, and his answer was always that she wasn't up to it because of her ball handling skills. He did occasionally play her in offense, but it was always for a few minutes in a game (no opportunity to show ability).

Well she has been on her new team for a total of 3 tournament games and one official game and has scored 5 times as a forward already. This is on a team in an older age group mind you. I am so angry that she wasn't able to develop as a forward all those years because I trusted this coach's judgment. But I am grateful that she is now officially a forward and the new coach is very excited to develop her in that position.

Lesson learned to trust your gut about a coach despite others gushing about what a great coach he is.

Did the coach try players at different positions over those 4 years? Surprising if he didn't cause those are the ages when they should be exposed to different positions. At least she knows how to defend now. If she did have technical skills it makes sense if she was moved to fwd because if she had technical skills she would have been moved to mid-field where the best players on the team are usually placed.

In 9v9 on the top team of her age group, my daughter started out as left wing (11) and was very technical and quick and had her fair share of unassisted/assisted goals. When moving to 11v11, she was moved to the midfield to play the 6,8 or 10, but coach mainly played her in the 6 to learn how to defend and distribute. It was a tough transition for her cause she was small and would get pushed around in the midfield and it was a new role for her getting plays started from the mid-field. A few years later she was moved back to a wing player (7 or 11) as the team picked up a just as technical bigger midfielder. My daughter picked up from where she left off moving back to the 11. She says she understands the game better playing midfield and having to defend.

OP here. There were a couple players (his favorites) that he would move around. I was the team manager, and obviously it didn't make one bit of difference. Maybe he didn't want it to seem like he was showing favoritism. She was always in the back and last year was first year of 11V11. He tried her in middle for about 10 minutes in a game last season, and never ever put her in front. He had one player was extremely weak who was always in striker position. So, no, he pretty much had everyone pegged at an early age.

Luckily, my daughter is naturally athletic and she picked it up pretty quickly...and the new coach is being very helpful with direction and helpful tips.

Ok, so you seem to realize what the issue was and you went and solved it all on your own. What is you hope to get out of this thread?

Oh please PP. No need for snark. This thread is quite productive.

Productive accept for the fact that the parent did what they thought needed to be done.

Exactly what was the point of the thread? It is an honest question. Frankly, it sounds like he just wants to complain.

And you sound like a coach that likes to keep kids in the same position for four years lol. Hopefully you learned from this thread.

He is playing a different position now but is he a better player? The parent was dismissing the coaches criticism of his son’s technical skills. What was done to improve them? What level team was he on and what level team did he move to?

So what, he changed clubs to play a different position. In NOVA an entitled parent changing clubs to play a position they want their kid to play? Shocking, just shocking.

Nope, the first coach was lazy and the player switched because of schedule conflicts. The player got lucky cause she ended up with a better coach who recognized her talent.

Or the parent was lazy and ignored the advice of working on technical aspects of the game. Either way what the hell was the point of the thread?

Listen coach, if it bothers you so much to read the thread, please scroll on.

You mean like when a coach tells you your kid needs to work on his game you just move on to club that tells you what you want to hear?

and coach's advice is the old "hurr durr play some wall ball gimme muh $2000"

Yup, he showed that guy.

Meanwhile new coach: You mean she just wants to play forward? Sure! Come aboard and gimme much $2000. Whats that? Wall ball? Never heard of it.

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Anonymous wrote:We recently switched teams after 4 years with one coach. Daughter is 8th grader who is very athletic, fast, and agile. Coach ALWAYS played her in defense (and she was strong in that position). I gently asked him a few times to try her in offensive positions, and his answer was always that she wasn't up to it because of her ball handling skills. He did occasionally play her in offense, but it was always for a few minutes in a game (no opportunity to show ability).

Well she has been on her new team for a total of 3 tournament games and one official game and has scored 5 times as a forward already. This is on a team in an older age group mind you. I am so angry that she wasn't able to develop as a forward all those years because I trusted this coach's judgment. But I am grateful that she is now officially a forward and the new coach is very excited to develop her in that position.

Lesson learned to trust your gut about a coach despite others gushing about what a great coach he is.

Did the coach try players at different positions over those 4 years? Surprising if he didn't cause those are the ages when they should be exposed to different positions. At least she knows how to defend now. If she did have technical skills it makes sense if she was moved to fwd because if she had technical skills she would have been moved to mid-field where the best players on the team are usually placed.

In 9v9 on the top team of her age group, my daughter started out as left wing (11) and was very technical and quick and had her fair share of unassisted/assisted goals. When moving to 11v11, she was moved to the midfield to play the 6,8 or 10, but coach mainly played her in the 6 to learn how to defend and distribute. It was a tough transition for her cause she was small and would get pushed around in the midfield and it was a new role for her getting plays started from the mid-field. A few years later she was moved back to a wing player (7 or 11) as the team picked up a just as technical bigger midfielder. My daughter picked up from where she left off moving back to the 11. She says she understands the game better playing midfield and having to defend.

OP here. There were a couple players (his favorites) that he would move around. I was the team manager, and obviously it didn't make one bit of difference. Maybe he didn't want it to seem like he was showing favoritism. She was always in the back and last year was first year of 11V11. He tried her in middle for about 10 minutes in a game last season, and never ever put her in front. He had one player was extremely weak who was always in striker position. So, no, he pretty much had everyone pegged at an early age.

Luckily, my daughter is naturally athletic and she picked it up pretty quickly...and the new coach is being very helpful with direction and helpful tips.

Ok, so you seem to realize what the issue was and you went and solved it all on your own. What is you hope to get out of this thread?

Oh please PP. No need for snark. This thread is quite productive.

Productive accept for the fact that the parent did what they thought needed to be done.

Exactly what was the point of the thread? It is an honest question. Frankly, it sounds like he just wants to complain.

And you sound like a coach that likes to keep kids in the same position for four years lol. Hopefully you learned from this thread.

He is playing a different position now but is he a better player? The parent was dismissing the coaches criticism of his son’s technical skills. What was done to improve them? What level team was he on and what level team did he move to?

So what, he changed clubs to play a different position. In NOVA an entitled parent changing clubs to play a position they want their kid to play? Shocking, just shocking.

Nope, the first coach was lazy and the player switched because of schedule conflicts. The player got lucky cause she ended up with a better coach who recognized her talent.

Or the parent was lazy and ignored the advice of working on technical aspects of the game. Either way what the hell was the point of the thread?

Listen coach, if it bothers you so much to read the thread, please scroll on.

You mean like when a coach tells you your kid needs to work on his game you just move on to club that tells you what you want to hear?

and coach's advice is the old "hurr durr play some wall ball gimme muh $2000"

Yup, he showed that guy.

Meanwhile new coach: You mean she just wants to play forward? Sure! Come aboard and gimme much $2000. Whats that? Wall ball? Never heard of it.

What difference does it make. The money gets spent wherever the player ends up. And, by the way, it ain't nearly that much LOL.

But listen coach, why are you still here complaining about OP? This obviously struck a chord for you.

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Anonymous wrote:We recently switched teams after 4 years with one coach. Daughter is 8th grader who is very athletic, fast, and agile. Coach ALWAYS played her in defense (and she was strong in that position). I gently asked him a few times to try her in offensive positions, and his answer was always that she wasn't up to it because of her ball handling skills. He did occasionally play her in offense, but it was always for a few minutes in a game (no opportunity to show ability).

Well she has been on her new team for a total of 3 tournament games and one official game and has scored 5 times as a forward already. This is on a team in an older age group mind you. I am so angry that she wasn't able to develop as a forward all those years because I trusted this coach's judgment. But I am grateful that she is now officially a forward and the new coach is very excited to develop her in that position.

Lesson learned to trust your gut about a coach despite others gushing about what a great coach he is.

Did the coach try players at different positions over those 4 years? Surprising if he didn't cause those are the ages when they should be exposed to different positions. At least she knows how to defend now. If she did have technical skills it makes sense if she was moved to fwd because if she had technical skills she would have been moved to mid-field where the best players on the team are usually placed.

In 9v9 on the top team of her age group, my daughter started out as left wing (11) and was very technical and quick and had her fair share of unassisted/assisted goals. When moving to 11v11, she was moved to the midfield to play the 6,8 or 10, but coach mainly played her in the 6 to learn how to defend and distribute. It was a tough transition for her cause she was small and would get pushed around in the midfield and it was a new role for her getting plays started from the mid-field. A few years later she was moved back to a wing player (7 or 11) as the team picked up a just as technical bigger midfielder. My daughter picked up from where she left off moving back to the 11. She says she understands the game better playing midfield and having to defend.

OP here. There were a couple players (his favorites) that he would move around. I was the team manager, and obviously it didn't make one bit of difference. Maybe he didn't want it to seem like he was showing favoritism. She was always in the back and last year was first year of 11V11. He tried her in middle for about 10 minutes in a game last season, and never ever put her in front. He had one player was extremely weak who was always in striker position. So, no, he pretty much had everyone pegged at an early age.

Luckily, my daughter is naturally athletic and she picked it up pretty quickly...and the new coach is being very helpful with direction and helpful tips.

Ok, so you seem to realize what the issue was and you went and solved it all on your own. What is you hope to get out of this thread?

Oh please PP. No need for snark. This thread is quite productive.

Productive accept for the fact that the parent did what they thought needed to be done.

Exactly what was the point of the thread? It is an honest question. Frankly, it sounds like he just wants to complain.

And you sound like a coach that likes to keep kids in the same position for four years lol. Hopefully you learned from this thread.

He is playing a different position now but is he a better player? The parent was dismissing the coaches criticism of his son’s technical skills. What was done to improve them? What level team was he on and what level team did he move to?

So what, he changed clubs to play a different position. In NOVA an entitled parent changing clubs to play a position they want their kid to play? Shocking, just shocking.

This is where the coach allowing kids to practice in new positions comes in. See how they works?

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Ok, so you seem to realize what the issue was and you went and solved it all on your own. What is you hope to get out of this thread?

Oh please PP. No need for snark. This thread is quite productive.

Productive accept for the fact that the parent did what they thought needed to be done.

Exactly what was the point of the thread? It is an honest question. Frankly, it sounds like he just wants to complain.

And you sound like a coach that likes to keep kids in the same position for four years lol. Hopefully you learned from this thread.

He is playing a different position now but is he a better player? The parent was dismissing the coaches criticism of his son’s technical skills. What was done to improve them? What level team was he on and what level team did he move to?

So what, he changed clubs to play a different position. In NOVA an entitled parent changing clubs to play a position they want their kid to play? Shocking, just shocking.

Nope, the first coach was lazy and the player switched because of schedule conflicts. The player got lucky cause she ended up with a better coach who recognized her talent.

Or the parent was lazy and ignored the advice of working on technical aspects of the game. Either way what the hell was the point of the thread?

Calm down.

None of these thread are quantum physics

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Ok, so you seem to realize what the issue was and you went and solved it all on your own. What is you hope to get out of this thread?

Oh please PP. No need for snark. This thread is quite productive.

Productive accept for the fact that the parent did what they thought needed to be done.

Exactly what was the point of the thread? It is an honest question. Frankly, it sounds like he just wants to complain.

And you sound like a coach that likes to keep kids in the same position for four years lol. Hopefully you learned from this thread.

He is playing a different position now but is he a better player? The parent was dismissing the coaches criticism of his son’s technical skills. What was done to improve them? What level team was he on and what level team did he move to?

So what, he changed clubs to play a different position. In NOVA an entitled parent changing clubs to play a position they want their kid to play? Shocking, just shocking.

Nope, the first coach was lazy and the player switched because of schedule conflicts. The player got lucky cause she ended up with a better coach who recognized her talent.

Or the parent was lazy and ignored the advice of working on technical aspects of the game. Either way what the hell was the point of the thread?

Calm down.

None of these thread are quantum physics

You all seem very triggered. I didn’t know that this was thread Utopia. What an amazing discussion. Girl changes club because she wants to play a new position. What’s next, girl changes club because of better socks?

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Ok, so you seem to realize what the issue was and you went and solved it all on your own. What is you hope to get out of this thread?

Oh please PP. No need for snark. This thread is quite productive.

Productive accept for the fact that the parent did what they thought needed to be done.

Exactly what was the point of the thread? It is an honest question. Frankly, it sounds like he just wants to complain.

And you sound like a coach that likes to keep kids in the same position for four years lol. Hopefully you learned from this thread.

He is playing a different position now but is he a better player? The parent was dismissing the coaches criticism of his son’s technical skills. What was done to improve them? What level team was he on and what level team did he move to?

So what, he changed clubs to play a different position. In NOVA an entitled parent changing clubs to play a position they want their kid to play? Shocking, just shocking.

Nope, the first coach was lazy and the player switched because of schedule conflicts. The player got lucky cause she ended up with a better coach who recognized her talent.

Or the parent was lazy and ignored the advice of working on technical aspects of the game. Either way what the hell was the point of the thread?

Calm down.

None of these thread are quantum physics

You all seem very triggered. I didn’t know that this was thread Utopia. What an amazing discussion. Girl changes club because she wants to play a new position. What’s next, girl changes club because of better socks?

You are the one who has become triggered returning to this thread. I am OP. My daughter left the team due to schedule conflicts, not because of positions. Daughter hated leaving old team because of friends. But turns out old coach was limiting her development based on her performance on new team. New coach agrees old coach made a mistake keeping her in defense. And to answer an earlier question, this club is a step up and team is one age group up from where she played before.